Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Paula Deen]

I think it's time we started arguing about High Elves again.

I know you are trolling. But I just...I dont get the people who still want them. This is ingame right now. On a Void Elf Character. I do not understand what these players want that isn't here.

[D45]

Trolls are playable too ^^

There is no way they would connect classic and retail collections.

[Raetary]

On a Void Elf Character. I do not understand what these players want that isn't here.

I'll be pretentious and quote myself:

It's also really not that hard to understand.

People want a proper channel to rp a fantasy.
That includes the narrative, the racials and customization.

Making a pale Void Elf does not scratch that itch, you are still restricted to all the emo customization, everyone in-game still refers to you as a Void Elf and your racials have incredibly visible spell effects that stand out.

[Paula Deen]

Trolls are playable too ^^

There is no way they would connect classic and retail collections.

I'd bet they will/would do it BUT only after starting a fresh cycle. The backlash from doing it midcycle would be too much.

[Andromedes]

I know you are trolling. But I just...I dont get the people who still want them. This is ingame right now. On a Void Elf Character. I do not understand what these players want that isn't here.

Story started to focus on Void elves, who are basically Blood elven(Horde) outcasts, who dabbled in void. You are called a void elf, you turn into blueberry every now and then. It was just a pointless ''compromise'', they should have added high elves from the start, who were part of the alliance since vanilla and had big presence mainly in wotlk, mop and legion. So in my case it boils down to ruined immersion.. It is like pretending game... It is like picking greenish skin on the darkspear and pretending that i am a forest troll.

[Hearthfinder]

I know you are trolling. But I just...I dont get the people who still want them. This is ingame right now. On a Void Elf Character. I do not understand what these players want that isn't here.

As somebody who has been known to favour the Alliance and High Elves from time to time (and I only speak for myself), here are the boxes I want to be able to tick with my elf:

- Is on the Alliance [check]
- Is from Quel'Thalas and Silvermoon [check]
- Can have natural hair colours, particularly blonde [check]
- Can have blue eyes [check]
- Has one of the Windrunners as its leader [check]
- Can be a Hunter (Ranger) [check]
- Can be a Paladin
- Can hang out in Quel'Thalas and Silvermoon
- Is called "High Elf"
- Can use normal elven hairstyles
- Does not turn into a blueberry in combat
- Can have Warcraft 2-style facial tattoos/war paint

[Darkarath]

Trolls are playable too ^^

There is no way they would connect classic and retail collections.

I would hate a connection between Classic and Retail. They should stay separated for good.

[Paula Deen]

@Merryck

wow wasn't that hard I guess?

[D45]

Connecting collections would "force" people to play MoP and/or PRE TBC classic/SoD so there is no way this is real.

[Paula Deen]

Connecting collections would "force" people to play MoP and/or PRE TBC classic/SoD so there is no way this is real.

Is this the same argument you have everytime you clear an old raid too?

The concept of merging them works fine if a fresh cycle is started so no one is ahead of anyone else for having already played one version over the other.

[elderu]

I think she's a compelling villain, and I'm excited to see how they continue to develop her.

For my perspective, would you be willing to share if this is more of a subjectively backed statement or, if there are things about her specifically, things she's done, objectively observable moments or facts about her that you find compelling?

Because I'm of the mind that a statement such as "I find X compelling" in a subjective meaning is, ultimately saying nothing. One could just as easily say then "I find anything they do with her compelling" with there being no backbone to the logic of that term.

I'd be curious to know what is compelling from an objective standpoint, unless you think such a thing is non existent. Then hey time wasted typing.

[Khaza-R]

Connecting collections would "force" people to play MoP and/or PRE TBC classic/SoD so there is no way this is real.

I don't think this leak is real but what's "forced" if you want to earn particular things that no longer available and voluntarily decide to go do that content again?

[Magistrate]

I would hate a connection between Classic and Retail. They should stay separated for good.

Arguably they probably are trying to think of ways of pushing players to retail. I doubt classic+ works for everyone and I'm really skeptical about the return value on classic versions of each next expansion. They should have stopped at wrath.

[Ersula]

Story started to focus on Void elves, who are basically Blood elven(Horde) outcasts, who dabbled in void. You are called a void elf, you turn into blueberry every now and then. It was just a pointless ''compromise'', they should have added high elves from the start, who were part of the alliance since vanilla and had big presence mainly in wotlk, mop and legion. So in my case it boils down to ruined immersion.. It is like pretending game... It is like picking greenish skin on the darkspear and pretending that i am a forest troll.

Right, but Blood elves ARE those high elves. They just couldn't accept they were in the horde.

Although this is the first leak I hope to be true. High Elf druids would be dope. Though the explanation doesn't make much sense. Quelthalas barrow dens? But who actually granted them the ability to be druids? Druidism is always granted by a godlike being. (Cenarious, Loa, Gorak Tul, etc.)

[D45]

Is this the same argument you have everytime you clear an old raid too?

The concept of merging them works fine if a fresh cycle is started so no one is ahead of anyone else for having already played one version over the other.

That could work but then you get ALOT of people in Classic that dont want to be there they just want rewards like Challenge Mode Sets or T3 or whatever.

[kavikor]

Man i hope that previous leak is right and we get High Elf Druids or something, we really need more Druid + Pally races

[NikolaiShade]

That could work but then you get ALOT of people in Classic that dont want to be there they just want rewards like Challenge Mode Sets or T3 or whatever.

I would add, if Legion Remix tells us anything, Blizzard is particularly unwilling to "easily" give out old rewards, I mean you could even farm the original Corrupted Ashbringer.

[Paula Deen]

That could work but then you get ALOT of people in Classic that dont want to be there they just want rewards like Challenge Mode Sets or T3 or whatever.

Obviously they want to play if they are wanting the rewards LMAO

[milkmustache]

For my perspective, would you be willing to share if this is more of a subjectively backed statement or, if there are things about her specifically, things she's done, objectively observable moments or facts about her that you find compelling?

Because I'm of the mind that a statement such as "I find X compelling" in a subjective meaning is, ultimately saying nothing. One could just as easily say then "I find anything they do with her compelling" with there being no backbone to the logic of that term.

I'd be curious to know what is compelling from an objective standpoint, unless you think such a thing is non existent. Then hey time wasted typing.

It's subjective for sure! I just find her interesting. I didn't like Fyraak. I hated the Jailer. Never really cared much about the Old Gods. But for some reason, I really like Xal'atath (insert feet jokes)

I like this idea of her being an upstart Void Lord, something ancient that has waited out her time. I think her personality is well written, especially this expansion. She feels like a classic Warcraft type of villain in the modern era and I appreciate that. Maybe the most objective I can get about it is that she seems to be flawed, even through her successes, which I think qualifies as objectively compelling. If they turn around and have her say "I knew the Goblins would betray me and give it to the Ethereals. I knew it'd lead me to Dimensius," then I'll take that back.

But yes, in case it wasn't specified before, that's my own personal opinion. I know a lot of people aren't fans of her.

[Khaza-R]

That could work but then you get ALOT of people in Classic that dont want to be there they just want rewards like Challenge Mode Sets or T3 or whatever.

I think people really overestimate how many players are collectors.

Personally I have 2 CM sets (hunter + DK). As much as I liked CM sets back in day and would of grinded them all if I had the chance they are really dated now and personally I wouldn't bother with it.