Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Makorus]

TWW/WSS was at Blizzcon.

Sure, but even Legion came from an insider source rather than the fact that it was at Gamescom.

[extasy]

Hell, we even already had 1 major leak.
The Pre-order bonuses were on the PTR.

If it wasn't for the Saga announcement already having spoiled the premise of Midnight, the thread would've gone crazy for those Dragonhawks.

Don't forget CGI cinematic character pictures on press kit, even if some people don't wanna believe them. They will in two days tho.

[bruxx]

I'm still confused about how people thought that avaloren leak was legit with so many old models in the trailer stills,it's hard to even find one old model in those gameplay trailers.

[Noirebene]

Oh yeah it would've been crazy. Imagine if we didn't know anything about Midnight, not even housing.

Then the pre-order bonus would've happened with the dragonhawks, the void and light as well as housing elements. That would have been a great leak moment.

[Makorus]

Don't forget CGI cinematic character pictures on press kit, even if some people don't wanna believe them. They will in two days tho.

Oh yeah, the obviously AI ones? The ones without Xal'atath, the most important character? They are definitely going to be at Gamescom!

[deviantcultist]

The last 2 days will feel like 2 years. For me this has to be the most important expansion announcement and I've been playing since late TBC. Any actual leaks are welcome, I don't care being spoiled.

[extasy]

Oh yeah, the obviously AI ones? The ones without Xal'atath, the most important character? They are definitely going to be at Gamescom!

I like how u say "obviously" like u made any effort to even debunk them, while i still have my doubts mostly about Azshara model.

[Makorus]

I like how u say "obviously" like u made any effort to even debunk them, while i still have my doubts mostly about Azshara model.

Lorthemars render is completely off-concept? And not in a "Oh, of course it's different, it's an HD model", but in a way where his cinematic render removes any type of Blood Elves symbolism.

Why would they get rid of his phoenix gloves, his phoenix shoulders, his phoenix boots, his phoenix belt or his phoenix chest piece? It's not like they gave him a completely different get-up, it's clearly supposed to be his BfA armor, however, that's clearly not it.

That's because AI doesn't understand why the phoenix stuff would be relevant and just approximates based on the trained images. "There's a bit of gold jutting out, roughly in this shape, with a blue gem".



His left eyebrow also makes no sense.

In the cinematic trailer, he also does seem to have the more "feathery" gloves rather than the three-prong ones from the AI leak.

[Auxis]

I've been thinking that a weapon illusion based on the Phase diving/phase lost appearance would be neat. Like the Wraithchill appearance - entirely changes your weapon model to look like npcs do in the Phase diving phase.

But then I saw the pvp illusion for this season and thought it might be too close in appearance :\
But then again it is different enough - it's pink/blue with sparkles, while the illusion is greyish/pink with arcane circles. Just wish they'd do more weapon illusions in general :|

[Fahrad Wagner]

- new enemy are called the shrouded. void spectres from worlds consumed by the all-devouring
- xal'atath has freed them in exchange for helping her claim azeroth's worldsoul
- they can possess people and control the undead
- faerin encounters the scion some time after she was in stromgarde and she gives the arathi a vision to defend the sunwell along with turalyon, anduin and velen
- turalyon dies saving alleria
- lorthemar and vereesa become enshrouded
- arator gets captured by xal'atath
- they repel xal'atath and empower the sunwell enough to stop the voidstorm for a time
- barrow dens discovered where the first high elf druids are sleeping and night elves help them awaken
- some of them became a new type of treant
- the ebon blade, darkfallen and forsaken are fighting off an endless force of undead amassing in the stratholme
- the death knights want to create a new lich king
- ruins under stratholme of an ancient city
- hostile forest trolls are allied with a new enemy called the ularak
- arathi and lightforge begin to follow a naaru called the last light
- renown for questing with certain characters. they reward you for increasing their reputation
- flying through riftways lets you jump from zone to zone
- races are replaced by tribes - tribes you can select your clan, ancestral power, family name, new class combinations and some tribes can pick their faction
- several elf districts in silvermoon
- there's a lodge in zul'aman and estate in silvermoon connected to your house
- your war camp is there and you can interact with them
- classic and retail collections will be connected soon

I honestly wouldn't be half-mad about that

[Kilpi]

MIA and KIA are two different things. Being MIA added to Turalyon's and Alleria's legacy, and for many years it was one of the biggest questions within the community.

When MoP launched Metzen was on stage and answered a question about them. "In terms of what's coming next, you're gonna need their help".

When they were ultimately confirmed for Legion it was very exciting. They even released an Alleria hero portrait in Hearthstone around the same time, to cash in on the hype.

Sure, it was exciting. But then both ended up more or less sucking. Turalyon could just go back to Army of Light and everything will be fine. He can go back MIA and then be KIA for all I care.

[Makorus]

I'm starting to think that the cinematic art leaks might be real. At first I didn't think the designs matched the in-game models and official art work which is still true, but the same can be said of Xal'atath. In the cinematic she looks uncanny and 'off' with a completely different facial structure.

Lor'themar and Turalyon are grizzled but conventionally attractive in-game and in official art work, but the cinematic will probably make them 'off' and ugly, too.

Except Xalataths render matches up perfectly with her ingame appearance as well as concept art?





Facial structures have ALWAYS been different, simply because it's impossible to translate a cartoonish human WoW face accurately into a ultra-realistic cinematic. Even so, it's not that different? We've definitely had worse, like BfA Anduin

[Hitei]

Why would a cinematic character...not be cinematic?

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[ImTheMizAwesome]

Yeah these ain't real, unless they let Phil spencer use PC for a bit to run his favorite AI through it.

[Makorus]

Why would a cinematic character...not be cinematic?

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Also, why would they suddenly have this weird aurora background and this big Midnight logo blocking 1/4 of the model?

[Cheezits]

Except Xalataths render matches up perfectly with her ingame appearance as well as concept art?

To play devil's advocate, cinematic Xal has different shoulders.

[Makorus]

To play devil's advocate, cinematic Xal has different shoulders.

Which, tbf, is an issue of in-game Xal, because most other media has her with the shoulders from the cinematic.





Point being, no Lorthemar media has him wear this de-Phoenixed armor.

[THEORACLE64]

Don't forget CGI cinematic character pictures on press kit, even if some people don't wanna believe them. They will in two days tho.

We'll mark this one down.

[Makorus]

I would not say 'perfectly', there's a few key differences. Her in-game model has a smaller jaw whereas in the cinematic it's much stronger and wider.

It isn't the first time it has happened, as you said Anduin looked completely different in the cinematic for BFA compared to his in-game counterpart. TWW fixed that somewhat by bringing them closer together.

My core point is that if Lor'themar and Turalyon do show up in the cinematic, they'll probably be 'off model' as well.

There's being off-model and off-concept, which Lorthemar is.

[Santandame]

We'll mark this one down.

I’ve already marked several of the opposite opinion.