Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Joszef Kiprich]

It really saved Arcane mage and Rogue in general for me.

This exactly.
I used to main a Hunter but with WotLK I switched to Blood DK dps (still missed). Then I went Unholy but even after so many Unholy purges I can still dream those rotations. Those two specs you mentioned, I really couldn't be bothered.

[Wyrt]

The reshii wraps convert any energy source into arcane. The Darkheart does the same but with the void.

I imagine we will see some light equivalent in Midnight (if one doesn't already exist).

The Light equivalent is void naaru eating enough souls to turn back to the Light.

[Casualist34]

i agree some things need to be done , some things like better controls need to do at the right moment,other things like some external downloads like addons who became necessity on pc can be resolved by the "addon funcition include in game" thing

If console realease will be in far future they could use temporarily shortcut - xbox cloud gaming like GeForce NOW which use addons. For example at start only for ultimate GP subsribers with active WoW subscription

[Joshuaj]

That is true.

On the other hand if an apocalyptic void invasion barely has an impact on the landscape, people will not feel Xal'atath really is a threat.

I mean, the Legion invasion only majorly affected small parts of the Broken Isles + the Broken Shore region, but they were still a major threat. I want a similar thing with Quel'thalas.

Have Silvermoon City, and much of Quel'danas remain unaffected, but definitely display the Void's influence on Quel'thalas VIA other means/

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Also, people are talking about a combat system revamp in Midnight, why? Did Blizzard say we'll get one, or is this just a simple speculation thing?

[milkmustache]

What can I say? It actually does make sense from a story perspective to have Ethereals. It's that simple.

I fully agree but after the 11.2.5 idea has been seemingly debunked, I'm trying to lower my expectations a lot. We'll see on Tuesday, but a part of me thinks that ship has sailed.

[Khaza-R]

I mean, the Legion invasion only majorly affected small parts of the Broken Isles + the Broken Shore region, but they were still a major threat. I want a similar thing with Quel'thalas.

Have Silvermoon City, and much of Quel'danas remain unaffected, but definitely display the Void's influence on Quel'thalas VIA other means/

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Also, people are talking about a combat system revamp in Midnight, why? Did Blizzard say we'll get one, or is this just a simple speculation thing?

Legion was almost 10 years ago. I think we definitely have the technology to have a full Voidstorm afflicted Quel'thalas and then progress to a relatively restored version when Xal'atath is eventually dealt with.

[Xilurm]

Dalaran used to be an Alliance city/state. Horde fought against Kirin Tor in vanilla, yet they were invited to come in Wotlk.. So i guess Alliance sacrificed Dalaran? Or what about Theramore? What city horde had to give up so they could nuke Theramore? Lets not pretend like there was always some kind of balance.

Dalaran was never an Alliance city in WoW. It was a neutral capital starting with Wrath.

Theramore was never an Alliance capital either.

In Vanilla each faction had 3 capital cities. Alliance had Stormwind, Ironforge and Darnassus. Horde had Orgrimmar, Thunder Bluff and Undercity. In TBC each faction gained 1 capital city more. In BFA Alliance lost 1 and Horde lost 1, and now they both have 3 again. What do you mean there was no balance. Now if Silvermoon goes neutral, then that means Alliance will have 3, while Horde has 2.

[Wangming]

I mean, the Legion invasion only majorly affected small parts of the Broken Isles + the Broken Shore region, but they were still a major threat. I want a similar thing with Quel'thalas.

Have Silvermoon City, and much of Quel'danas remain unaffected, but definitely display the Void's influence on Quel'thalas VIA other means/

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Also, people are talking about a combat system revamp in Midnight, why? Did Blizzard say we'll get one, or is this just a simple speculation thing?

Well I dunno, man. Having one zone out of the six, completely obliterated is a pretty noticable effect.
Not to mention that just the intro questline saw the death of Varian. Vol'Jin and Tiron Fordring.)

Not every effect the war had on the world (which was global, by the by) is reflected by the open world currently (hence a hope for a wider revamp)
But the Night's Watch in Duskwood had to be purged, the Peak of Serenity was evacuated, shit was happening.

[Lady Atia]

I fully agree but after the 11.2.5 idea has been seemingly debunked, I'm trying to lower my expectations a lot. We'll see on Tuesday, but a part of me thinks that ship has sailed.

Tbf, you can get quite close with the new transmogs.

And I think a Nightborne using the new transmogs will prolly look more Ethereal than an Ethereal with most other player gear which would remove any bandages etc, basically what makes Ethereals, well Ethereals.

[NikolaiShade]

I fully agree but after the 11.2.5 idea has been seemingly debunked, I'm trying to lower my expectations a lot. We'll see on Tuesday, but a part of me thinks that ship has sailed.

If we had to gather all the cool ships that sailed off in WoW we could make a fleet, a very depressing one

[D45]

Dalaran was never an Alliance city in WoW. It was a neutral capital starting with Wrath.

Theramore was never an Alliance capital either.

In Vanilla each faction had 3 capital cities. Alliance had Stormwind, Ironforge and Darnassus. Horde had Orgrimmar, Thunder Bluff and Undercity. In TBC each faction gained 1 capital city more. In BFA Alliance lost 1 and Horde lost 1, and now they both have 3 again. What do you mean there was no balance. Now if Silvermoon goes neutral, then that means Alliance will have 3, while Horde has 2.

This is not what he said.

[lostsoup]

blizzard's absolutely horrible at adding new races that people actually want, they always ignore community requests and instead implement their own completely unnecessary and unwanted spin on things which practically always fails

I think the only races that have been well received are the TBC ones, Cataclysm ones and Void Elves...

[Xilurm]

This is not what he said.

Then he clearly missed the point of what I was talking about then. /shrug

[D45]

Then he clearly missed the point of what I was talking about then. /shrug

You missed his point.

[Xilurm]

You missed his point.

His point is that there's no faction balance when it comes to cities lorewise. That's not what I was talking about.

[Khaza-R]

blizzard's absolutely horrible at adding new races that people actually want, they always ignore community requests and instead implement their own completely unnecessary and unwanted spin on things which practically always fails

I think the only races that have been well received are the TBC ones, Cataclysm ones and Void Elves...

This is a pretty disingenuous take. Other than Kul Tirans and Mechagnomes, I pretty sure every AR has been well received.

[milkmustache]

Tbf, you can get quite close with the new transmogs.

And I think a Nightborne using the new transmogs will prolly look more Ethereal than an Ethereal with most other player gear which would remove any bandages etc, basically what makes Ethereals, well Ethereals.

In a way, yea. As someone who leans more towards the roleplay side of things, it's not about looking like an Ethereal as much as it is being one. I like their culture, their lore, etc. If we don't get them ever, I think it's a bummer, but that's okay. I don't really have an interest in just wearing the transmog to look like one, you know? It doesn't work in my brain as the same thing, and that's ok! Happy for the people who enjoy the transmogs that way

I think the only races that have been well received are the TBC ones, Cataclysm ones and Void Elves...

I think you could maybe cross off Void Elves solely by the fact that they were half of what people wanted.

[Khaza-R]

His point is that there's no faction balance when it comes to cities lorewise. That's not what I was talking about.

But you are talking about lore? Because that's the only aspect it really matters in anyway.

And in terms of lore I am pretty sure every city is neutral at this point. The game just doesn't reflect that.

[elbleuet]

Dalaran was never an Alliance city in WoW. It was a neutral capital starting with Wrath.

Theramore was never an Alliance capital either.

In Vanilla each faction had 3 capital cities. Alliance had Stormwind, Ironforge and Darnassus. Horde had Orgrimmar, Thunder Bluff and Undercity. In TBC each faction gained 1 capital city more. In BFA Alliance lost 1 and Horde lost 1, and now they both have 3 again. What do you mean there was no balance. Now if Silvermoon goes neutral, then that means Alliance will have 3, while Horde has 2.

In Lore, Dalaran was an Alliance city.

And in Lore again, Theramore was the main Alliance capital in Kalimdor.

[Khaza-R]

Tbf, you can get quite close with the new transmogs.

And I think a Nightborne using the new transmogs will prolly look more Ethereal than an Ethereal with most other player gear which would remove any bandages etc, basically what makes Ethereals, well Ethereals.

We've had that example with mechagnomes where their heritage armor achieves the tiny robot look most people wanted out of the race. But of course using heritage your always stuck with that appearance. Its not really adequate replacement for them being their own race. "Its close enough" is a terrible cope.