Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Sondrelk]

Pages are really starting to move at a frantic pace. It really is no different from previous leak seasons.

[Trad skeleton]

This is what I've been thinking about, too. I don't know why but I have it in my head that the Arathi empire and all of that stuff will be the 'saga' after this one. Once TLT is done and I imagine the lightbound being involved with instead of the upcoming Void fight.

I obviously think that they will set some stuff up here. I can see the Arathi sending troops / help in whatever form and the Lightforged draenei come much, much later down the line when the Arathi stop helping us and start hindering us.

[Thomir]

I think the Yrel thread makes more sense in the Arathi arc instead.

The Arathi narratively replace Yrel and her alternate universe bullshit. Fuck, I hate what Blizzard did to her.

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And she doesn't need to be addressed anymore than the murloc alternate universe does.

[Nymrohd]

I could see Y'rel arriving to the Emperor with X'era and becoming his trusted advisor and the reason the Arathi chose to invade the rest of the world.

[Wyrt]

This is what I've been thinking about, too. I don't know why but I have it in my head that the Arathi empire and all of that stuff will be the 'saga' after this one. Once TLT is done and I imagine the lightbound being involved with instead of the upcoming Void fight.

I obviously think that they will set some stuff up here. I can see the Arathi sending troops / help in whatever form and the Lightforged draenei come much, much later down the line when the Arathi stop helping us and start hindering us.

It makes a whole lot of sense for the Light to start taking over when we banish the void forever or whatever it was Metzen said specifically.

I kind of hope they just let the AU die and we can move on.

[Nymrohd]

The Arathi narratively replace Yrel and her alternate universe bullshit. Fuck, I hate what Blizzard did to her.

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And she doesn't need to be addressed anymore than the murloc alternate universe does.

I would like some closure for the Mag'har scenario. First, I want to learn what actually happened. Was it industrialization killing the planet? Was it something that X'era did to create the necessary panic so that the Draenei would agree with creating Lightbound? Was it something unrelated like them being tied so strongly to our timeline? Maybe even something that Order did; maybe AUs are meant to be mere shadows of reality because Order is preserving a single timeline and out intervention with the WoD AU made it too real and triggered some kind of reaction. Plus I'd like the Mag'har themselves to gain some closure. I think they have already understood that not all Light users are zealots, especially with Geyarah interacting with Faerin. But they should get to fight Light zealots and while the Arathi would be interesting, Y'rel would be even better.

Plus Paladin Garrosh (especially as a consort to Y'rel) is just too cool not to have in canon.

Also an Arathi saga could be a great excuse for a Lordaeron Revamp. If it is a trilogy, one of the three expacs could be repelling their assault on Lordaeron. I'll be frank, I'd be far more excited for central and northern Kalimdor but any revamp is good for me. And in less than two days we'll know how the first one will happen!

[Thomir]

I would like some closure for the Mag'har scenario. First, I want to learn what actually happened. Was it industrialization killing the planet? Was it something that X'era did to create the necessary panic so that the Draenei would agree with creating Lightbound? Was it something unrelated like them being tied so strongly to our timeline? Maybe even something that Order did; maybe AUs are meant to be mere shadows of reality because Order is preserving a single timeline and out intervention with the WoD AU made it too real and triggered some kind of reaction. Plus I'd like the Mag'har themselves to gain some closure. I think they have already understood that not all Light users are zealots, especially with Geyarah interacting with Faerin. But they should get to fight Light zealots and while the Arathi would be interesting, Y'rel would be even better.

Plus Paladin Garrosh (especially as a consort to Y'rel) is just too cool not to have in canon.

Also an Arathi saga could be a great excuse for a Lordaeron Revamp. If it is a trilogy, one of the three expacs could be repelling their assault on Lordaeron. I'll be frank, I'd be far more excited for central and northern Kalimdor but any revamp is good for me. And in less than two days we'll know how the first one will happen!

There's no chance Garrosh exists in this alternate universe. His mother died before he could be born, and Grommash had his son much later.

[maplesyrupgl]

Is this the closest we've got to an expansion announcement without any viable leaks at all?

I guess since we already know the name and theme of the expansion it's harder to leak.

[Wyrt]

The fake leakers were so lazy this time. So many of them just focused on story details, including for .1 and .2 patches, stuff Blizzard would never release at an expansion reveal.

[Raetary]

Is this the closest we've got to an expansion announcement without any viable leaks at all?

I guess since we already know the name and theme of the expansion it's harder to leak.

We had our big leak.
Blizzard leaked the preorders on the PTR.

[Trad skeleton]

I'm still hoping that the Avaloren guy from last time cooks something up over the next twenty-four hours to get everything buzzing but maybe he reckons we would catch on too quick after getting duped last time.

[Sondrelk]

Is this the closest we've got to an expansion announcement without any viable leaks at all?

I guess since we already know the name and theme of the expansion it's harder to leak.

Depends what you count as viable leaks. We have had a bombshell leak that was only made irrelevant by us already knowing what Midnight will be about.
In my other year, the leaked Epic Edition rewards would have been an absolutely crucial bit of info that defined the leak season.

Lots of small stuff that we now know is pointing towards stuff being made in Midnight. Amani mounts, possibly also the Dwarf Gryphons, etc.

[deviantcultist]

The Arathi narratively replace Yrel and her alternate universe bullshit. Fuck, I hate what Blizzard did to her.

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And she doesn't need to be addressed anymore than the murloc alternate universe does.

Sooner or later the Light will become a threat and she will 100% be part of the problem.

[Wangming]

The fake leakers were so lazy this time. So many of them just focused on story details, including for .1 and .2 patches, stuff Blizzard would never release at an expansion reveal.

They couldn't even come up with a proper name for the void DH spec.

Most just picked voidsomething or a generic nu metal song name without realising it wouldn't fit thematically at all.

Entropy, was the closest, but even that misses the mark.
Havov and Vengeance are both things you do. You wreak havoc and enact vengeance.
But you don't make Entropy. It just happens as a natural process.

A right spec name would be Pain or Suffering. That is certainly done. You cause both. In fact Suffering would fit the void. You suffer in silence over a long period of time, until it is unbearable. Same way the void slowly consumes you and leaves you empty. Suffering is also the last step on the path to the Dark Side.

[Magistrate]

Maybe you already discussed this, but, isn't this a tuskarr aesthetic mount? or tuskarr related mount? could this mean anything? they don't have any realation with moose right? there racial mount was just the ottuks.

source is trading post

[infinitemeridian]

I'd like to see a nythendra mount in remix. Surprised we still haven't gotten one using that model yet.

[deviantcultist]

They couldn't even come up with a proper name for the void DH spec.

Most just picked voidsomething or a generic nu metal song name without realising it wouldn't fit thematically at all.

Entropy, was the closest, but even that misses the mark.
Havov and Vengeance are both things you do. You wreak havoc and enact vengeance.
But you don't make Entropy. It just happens as a natural process.

A right spec name would be Pain or Suffering. That is certainly done. You cause both. In fact Suffering would fit the void. You suffer in silence over a long period of time, until it is unbearable. Same way the void slowly consumes you and leaves you empty. Suffering is also the last step on the path to the Dark Side.

Nu metal is truly a mood though, can't argue with that. I do hope the whole hype around the Void DH spec leads to something and we don't get a Shadowlands situation where it ended up classless despite being expected to add one (I count the Void DH spec as a class addition even though it's a spec).

[Zharikov]

The Arathi narratively replace Yrel and her alternate universe bullshit. Fuck, I hate what Blizzard did to her.

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And she doesn't need to be addressed anymore than the murloc alternate universe does.

Unfortunately, Alex Afrasiabi in his women hating ways did everything he could to assassinate her character (and Sylvanas's), and it would take some higher ups basically admitting that to get them to retcon something of that proportion I think. More likely they're just going to ignore Yrel forever.

[Cheezits]

Honestly I can see Voidrender being the spec name even if doesn't fit the DH spec theme because it makes it very obvious to the General Audience what the spec does.

Much easier to market a Voidrender than a "Suffering Demon Hunter"

[Limayria]

They couldn't even come up with a proper name for the void DH spec.

Most just picked voidsomething or a generic nu metal song name without realising it wouldn't fit thematically at all.

Entropy, was the closest, but even that misses the mark.
Havov and Vengeance are both things you do. You wreak havoc and enact vengeance.
But you don't make Entropy. It just happens as a natural process.

A right spec name would be Pain or Suffering. That is certainly done. You cause both. In fact Suffering would fit the void. You suffer in silence over a long period of time, until it is unbearable. Same way the void slowly consumes you and leaves you empty. Suffering is also the last step on the path to the Dark Side.

dh spec should be called deception and based off ky'vessa