Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[THEORACLE64]

The cinematic will start off with a distant view of Quel'danas isle and feet descending into the frame. You are welcome, see you tomorrow

This is like saying the sky is blue at this point.

[DemonHunter18]

But it was I, [Generic excuse of a villain] that was the reason for bad things. But wait, not only was I, but [Generic Excuse of a Villain's Boss] is TRULY behind it all!

Classic 'Shit we gotta create more reasons for this lore to exist' GAAS trope.

Dont forget about [Generic Excuse of a Villain's Boss's Father]. Thats pretty much what the First Ones are. From Sargeras/OGs, to VLs, to the First Ones.

Edit: No wait, its even more. [Generic Excuse of a Villain's Boss's Grandfather]. From Sargeras/OGs, to VLs, to the Nippler, to the First Ones.

You know, I wonder what they will make up after they close this "Muh Final Chapter of Volume 1" Warcraft lore since making up randoms is their thing after Legion. They kinda made up the "hey there are this anti Titan dragons faction that we never really hinted at before" out of nowhere but Jailer and SL was something else.

It would be kinda funny when, after the Worldsoul saga ends, they create some random dude or chick who was ACTUALLY manipulating the entire Chapter 1 of Warcraft lore.

Then after chapter 2 there will be another one xd

Onto infinity

[Hearthfinder]

Maybe old version gets taken out and a new replacement version takes its place?

Old area turned into mixture of old area, sky islands and underground.

Oh. But that sounds great, doesn't it?

I'm not sure how floating islands would avoid the threat from the Voidstorm though. Seems like a risky move.

Maybe Jaina shows up and lifts the city away, lol. Wingardium Quel'thalosa.

[Santandame]

Not that I know of! I think a lot of people expected it to be Beledar involved before Beledar was said to be a shard of crystallized worldsoul.

I wouldn't be surprised if it comes up in Midnight.

I know it's an unverified leak-- but I think I'd actually be a bit disappointed if Quel'thalas was Tears of the Kingdom'd. I still stand by the belief that the beauty of returning to revamped zones is that we get to see a much more expanded version of a fan favorite. I think that Cataclysm kind of answered this question.

But if they're implying the moon, that's fairly convenient after the Nightborne Space Bull find.

There’s no reason to do so with Quel’thalas. We want to return to that area of the game because we want to see how it would like updated. Keep it how we all want to see it.

Northrend makes perfect sense for a Tears of the Kingdom styled map. There’s noteworthy, prominent underground locations. Then you can have Ulduar in the sky as well as possibly the dragon shrines from Dragonblight as a nod to the majority prediction that the Dragon Isles would be floating islands.

There’s no known places like that for Quel’thalas. Random underground zone? Floating Void islands that ruin the landscape? No thanks.

It’s an ideal concept for TLT. Not for Midnight.

[Wangming]

If Midnight (12.0, get it??)

I'm not too proud to admit, it did not occur to me till now.

[Xilurm]

Maybe Jaina shows up and lifts the city away, lol. Wingardium Quel'thalosa.

Arguably the most powerful collection of arcane users in Silvermoon now that Dalaran is gone. (Suramar is second)

Need Jaina to come and cast magic for them.

Lol. Lmao even.

[milkmustache]

Oh. But that sounds great, doesn't it?

I'm not sure how floating islands would avoid the threat from the Voidstorm though. Seems like a risky move.

Maybe Jaina shows up and lifts the city away, lol. Wingardium Quel'thalosa.

I'd much, much prefer if we don't shatter Quel'thalas and lift half of it into the sky. If there's a floating Draenei city and some Blood Elf spires, that's cool. But Tears of the Kingdom quite literally ripped pieces and brought them up.

I'm fine with going underground. Underground means the surface relatively stays the same. I don't think it's a good idea to drastically alter the face of Quel'thalas.

I have always thought Aman'thul was kind of sus. What if the Titans are constructs like the Eternal Ones and Aman'Thul is the only world soul Titan.

Personally, I'd hate that. I loathe the "but they were actually robots" trope myself, but I understand others like it.

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There’s no reason to do so with Quel’thalas. We want to return to that area of the game because we want to see how it would like updated. Keep it how we all want to see it.

Northrend makes perfect sense for a Tears of the Kingdom styled map. There’s noteworthy, prominent underground locations. Then you can have Ulduar in the sky as well as possibly the dragon shrines from Dragonblight as a nod to the majority prediction that the Dragon Isles would be floating islands.

There’s no known places like that for Quel’thalas. Random underground zone? Floating Void islands that ruin the landscape? No thanks.

It’s an ideal concept for TLT. Not for Midnight.

You summed up my thoughts exactly!

[Wangming]

Arguably the most powerful collection of arcane users in Silvermoon now that Dalaran is gone. (Suramar is second)

Need Jaina to come and cast magic for them.

Lol. Lmao even.

If Saurfang needed Anduin to tell him about what the Horde means and how wars work I don't think it is impossible for QT to rely on Jaina for magic.

[Santandame]

Arguably the most powerful collection of arcane users in Silvermoon now that Dalaran is gone. (Suramar is second)

Need Jaina to come and cast magic for them.

Lol. Lmao even.

Why is that funny?

We know Thalyssra feared Jaina in BfA. Who else is there in Silvermoon that’s as powerful arcane wise?

It’s been clear for a while that the hierarchy of arcane power goes - Azshara then Khadgar then Jaina as far as mortals go.

[Thros]

I have always thought Aman'thul was kind of sus. What if the Titans are constructs like the Eternal Ones and Aman'Thul is the only world soul Titan.

There are no constructs unless mortals are just a flesh it's just a different way of the soul's expression and containment of each cosmic and non-cosmic power depending on the need of its realm, but they do all share a similarity of sorts, a core like a titan core and an eternal core.

[Makorus]

I mean, Jaina partially has Titan power. Is it that weird?

[milkmustache]

There are no constructs unless mortals are just a flesh it's just a different way of the soul's expression and containment of each cosmic and non-cosmic power depending on the need of its realm, but they do all share a similarity of sorts, a core like a titan core and an eternal core.

I mean this is just the issue with what Shadowlands introduced because what the hell does any of this mean

[Houle]

Personally, I'd hate that. I loathe the "but they were actually robots" trope myself, but I understand others like it.

Considering just how much people shat on that in SL, id say thats a pretty popular opinion lol.

[Makorus]

I mean this is just the issue with what Shadowlands introduced because what the hell does any of this mean

A soul makes a person, not their body.

[Dvalin]

I wonder if there will be new Void-creatures with a more insectoid/chitinous look, just like the new mobs in K'aresh which don't seem to be indigenous species but actually from the edges of the Void.

[LorDC]

Why would we need Jaina (mostly a frost mage) to float Silvermoon when we have Khadgar who is expert on floating cities?

[Thros]

I mean this is just the issue with what Shadowlands introduced because what the hell does any of this mean

It's not a new concept because a soul being placed in inanimate objects was introduced pre-SL, and it's a straightforward concept the soul is what's important and makes the individual.

[Xilurm]

Why is that funny?

We know Thalyssra feared Jaina in BfA. Who else is there in Silvermoon that’s as powerful arcane wise?

It’s been clear for a while that the hierarchy of arcane power goes - Azshara then Khadgar then Jaina as far as mortals go.

It's just kinda dumb. If you're gonna show arcane prowess in a Quel'thalas expansion, show the Elves doing it.

[Alomain]

good choice

Ohhh, is there a big moon with a face? Maybe Elune is coming down to say hi.

[whoisqnx]

I wonder if there will be new Void-creatures with a more insectoid/chitinous look, just like the new mobs in K'aresh which don't seem to be indigenous species but actually from the edges of the Void.

Im so glad you posted about this, I was literally thinking about it earlier today while fighting the world boss on an alt and the mobs spawned.
I suggest everyone searching up Slaneesh units from Fantasy Warhammer, they really remind me of some of them.