Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Ibkee]

Because fel orcs are red. Always have been.

Fel orcs aren't what we play though and are red because they've been force fed the blood of Magtheridon by Illidan.

[Wangming]

So, the Shrouded/Enshrouded as Xal’atath’s army is legitimate. Just trust me bro.

Who do y’all want as the new Lich King?

New barbershop options + class combos are being bundled together with an overhaul of racials (renamed to ancestral powers) and tied together in a rework of how races function within the game with fluff added in aimed at roleplayers. You can swap between using the current human and kul’tiran models as an option the barbershop.

You can pick a different ancestral power after every weekly reset.

Under the new system, trolls get a new body type if they own Midnight.

The Horde welcomes night elves as long as they're dead and Alliance are cool with blood elves as long as they have blue eyes call themselves high elves.

Maybe one day we'll get some half orc representation? I guess that's a bit more complicated than pointy ears. /sigh

I'm going to main a blood elf druid.

LOL. This gave me a chuckle.

As for a new LK, I want it to be whoever dies in the prepatch. Turalyon, Lor'Themar, Genn...whoever.
Wooh, just imagine werewolf Lich King.
But frankly the heir apparent should be Darion Mograine. Dude earned it.

[Xilurm]

That’s a good one. I’d like these too. Million’s is slim to 0 though. Especially if we get a new race. But how amazing it would be if we get this and a new race too.

Spell customisations are cool

Mace you have believed 99% of the leaks so far. Just what are you expecting from this expansion?

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LOL. This gave me a chuckle.

As for a new LK, I want it to be whoever dies in the prepatch. Turalyon, Lor'Themar, Genn...whoever.
Wooh, just imagine werewolf Lich King.
But frankly the heir apparent should be Darion Mograine. Dude earned it.

Lich King Turalyon and Void Alleria would one hell of a power couple.

[Wangming]

Fel orcs aren't what we play though and are red because they've been force fed the blood of Magtheridon by Illidan.

Well, let's say Demon Hunter orcs are fell orcs.
Or maybe that's just a new customization option we get now and was just picked for the dh because it makes sense.

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Mace you have believed 99% of the leaks so far. Just what are you expecting from this expansion?

He believes anything with void elf in it.

[Lady Atia]

I mean, red Orc DH's are something the community wanted since Legion, alongside Draenei. No clue why you guys are suddenly so surprised? Illidan had both in his army, it actually makes sense lol.

[ghernandess]

This just made me doubt it more. Would they really gate some racial power behind a weekly reset type deal? Would people just not get annoyed like all the other times that something that changes power is gated behind a choice you can't change for a time?

Didn't want to play the devil's advocate's role in this but maybe that could be tied to some faction-swap mechanics behind this "ancestral power". This week you can be a Blood Elf loyal to the Horde but then next week you go to a barbershop and become a High Elf, esteemed hero of the Alliance.

I don't see this happening at least now so idk

[Lady Atia]

Well, let's say Demon Hunter orcs are fell orcs.
Or maybe that's just a new customization option we get now and was just picked for the dh because it makes sense.

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He believes anything with void elf in it.

And people always wanted to play as a fel orcs, its literally one of the most requested skins?

[Calfredd]

I mean, red Orc DH's are something the community wanted since Legion, alongside Draenei. No clue why you guys are suddenly so surprised? Illidan had both in his army, it actually makes sense lol.

Yeah but Illidan was also kind of racist and (until a retcon says otherwise) only taught elves how to be demon hunters.

[blaatschaap]

I'm pretty optimistic about our chances for new race/class combo unlocks. Just feels like now is the right time for that, can't really put my finger on why

[ro9ue]

I think it's far more likely we only get Nightborne and Void Elf DHs. My guess is Midnight will focus on DH (new void spec) and Paladin (light) races. Undead and Night Elf certainly added for Paladin, maybe a few others like Void Elf and Worgen. Updated paladin mounts where needed and some cosmetic options like Sunlight (Sunwalker) or Moonlight (Elunite) spell effects.

Races I think High Elf and Amani Troll are obvious picks. Ethereals were so cool in 11.2, it would suck to not get them. Remember in DF when they had the world first Mythic kill unlock the Legendary drops for everyone? Would be cool if they did that for a playable race. World first mythic Dimensius kill = Ethereal unlocked for everyone.

I'm not expecting a Spellbreaker, but it would be a welcome surprise. I think the new DH spec, new race + class combos and expansion of the hero talents will be as far as they go for Midnight.

[Lady Atia]

So, the Shrouded/Enshrouded as Xal’atath’s army is legitimate. Just trust me bro.

Who do y’all want as the new Lich King?

New barbershop options + class combos are being bundled together with an overhaul of racials (renamed to ancestral powers) and tied together in a rework of how races function within the game with fluff added in aimed at roleplayers. You can swap between using the current human and kul’tiran models as an option the barbershop.

You can pick a different ancestral power after every weekly reset.

Under the new system, trolls get a new body type if they own Midnight.

The Horde welcomes night elves as long as they're dead and Alliance are cool with blood elves as long as they have blue eyes call themselves high elves.

Maybe one day we'll get some half orc representation? I guess that's a bit more complicated than pointy ears. /sigh

I'm going to main a blood elf druid.

What was the other part of the shrouded leak again?

[Shadochi]

Is this the expansion we finally find out that Jaina is a Dreadlord? The bigger thing the Jailer warned us about was her all along

[Wyrt]

some cosmetic options like Sunlight (Sunwalker) or Moonlight (Elunite) spell effects.

I know it's a long reach back, but in BC era books like Rise of the Horde the draenei used blue Light spells. It was only ever represented in game with Gift of the Naaru and with the old draenei priest racial Symbol of Hope. And since then Blizzard's gone all in on yellow Light draenei.

But it'd still be cool to get it as an option as well.

[Samin]

This just made me doubt it more. Would they really gate some racial power behind a weekly reset type deal? Would people just not get annoyed like all the other times that something that changes power is gated behind a choice you can't change for a time?

I think the thought behind that is for it to stop degenerate "swap racials before each boss" gameplay. Now, that thought probably comes from a faker trying to think like Blizzard, but anyway.

I don't want that leak to be real because it doesn't have Paladins for everyone. I want my gnome paladin.

[Melorandor]

So, the Shrouded/Enshrouded as Xal’atath’s army is legitimate. Just trust me bro.

Who do y’all want as the new Lich King?

New barbershop options + class combos are being bundled together with an overhaul of racials (renamed to ancestral powers) and tied together in a rework of how races function within the game with fluff added in aimed at roleplayers. You can swap between using the current human and kul’tiran models as an option the barbershop.

You can pick a different ancestral power after every weekly reset.

Under the new system, trolls get a new body type if they own Midnight.

The Horde welcomes night elves as long as they're dead and Alliance are cool with blood elves as long as they have blue eyes call themselves high elves.

Maybe one day we'll get some half orc representation? I guess that's a bit more complicated than pointy ears. /sigh

I'm going to main a blood elf druid.

Hmm. Interesting. Neutral Elves seem to be the most likely outcome, if Midnight is no new race per se. I still want a new race tho.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Is this the expansion we finally find out that Jaina is a Dreadlord? The bigger thing the Jailer warned us about was her all along

Jaina dreadlord model already leaked

[Ochinko]

Ancestral powers could work without too much issues if they just make it baseline stuff like +2% crit / haste / etc.. every class has a preferred stat anyway so there would be no need to constantly change it but still leave the option for it if a class rebalance demands different stat prio.

The dead NE and BE thing sounds weird though.

[Lady Atia]

I know it's a long reach back, but in BC era books like Rise of the Horde the draenei used blue Light spells. It was only ever represented in game with Gift of the Naaru and with the old draenei priest racial Symbol of Hope. And since then Blizzard's gone all in on yellow Light draenei.

But it'd still be cool to get it as an option as well.

Yeah, and they also were blue/purple coded but that now also has gone out of the window with them labeling purple draenei stuff as "void" sets lol.

Or we make a full circle, and we are back to "every cosmic force uses every colour", which tbf, was re-introduced in Shadowlands anyways. Gives artist more freedom in designing stuff which is also a good thing at the end.

The whole "this specific tone of green is fel" goes out of the window the moment you say "but if it's enough fel, it's now orange and not looking any different to Ragnaros' magic" and I would rather have them just having fun with it and making it good looking and fitting instead of hyper focusing and giving us an expansion that looks the same all the time.

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I think the thought behind that is for it to stop degenerate "swap racials before each boss" gameplay. Now, that thought probably comes from a faker trying to think like Blizzard, but anyway.

I don't want that leak to be real because it doesn't have Paladins for everyone. I want my gnome paladin.

It would defo be like that (atleast at the start). Blizz says "once something is in the player's hands we can't take it away anymore so we would rather introduce a more restricted version first and see how it goes". They can always do the ripcord later, with stuff like 1-3 weekly charges that you can use on the fly instead of having to go to a racial trainer for example.

[Wangming]

Jaina dreadlord model already leaked

Karlach's edgy sister. Honestly? Would

[Ochinko]

Jaina dreadlord model already leaked

Dont lead me astray, there can only be one, and its Tentacle-Mommy Azshara