Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[xskarma]

Dyes will never happen. Recolours are the lifeblood of so many reward systems.

Not just that. They force so much running of old content too. You want the normal mode and the HC mode and the Mythic mode appearance of your class set that you missed cause you were unsubbed that tier or didn't play your Hunter that patch.

With housing being a thing now though, I could see that make the demand for CERTAIN cosmetic gear to have dyes to grow. Like, those kinda terrible mogs you could get from the vendor in Dornogal, with the "gem" you only got from getting Renown with the different factions. That stuff could easily be turned into making a bunch of undyed sets and having us work in various ways to unlock the dyes. There might be mroe content there that way and it would not interfere with the usual stat gear.

And those sets have their uses in transmogging, especially if you were able to dye them.

[Xeladriel]

hi guys are you ready? im not!!

[Samin]

I do wonder how dyes would work with the way armour is designed though. Will it just be a colour overlay or slider, and the armour will still be different per difficulty and source? Given the sheer amount of detail on armour, I cannot see a fully freeform dye system really work.

Well my idea would be something like

LFR - default color scheme, not dyable
Normal - Base material can be dyed
Heroic - One additional main/major highlight material can be dyed
Mythic (maybe) - almost everything else can be dyed, may be more than 1 additional dye channel depending on the individual piece

Other difficulties may still have a different "default" color scheme, which would be only relevant for Normal and maybe Heroic.

It may reduce some "reusability" for more parallel paths like the open world sets.

[PT2020]

hi guys are you ready? im not!!

Hold me close!

[Berkilak]

Compromise. Unlockable dyes on a UI built for it, getting them the same way you normally would, with items retrofitted to be easily swapped between recolors that exist on it, instead of cramming 70 recolors into 50 different items.

It would just be cleaner. And easier to look at new items and be like "ok cool, this version exists that I can get in this way for my collection."

I don’t disagree that it would be cleaner. But Blizzard wants those 50 different recolours so they can keep the reputation vendor stocked and players on their various treadmills.

[Xilurm]

The most insane statement you've ever said. You can't quest for more than 10 minutes without the game bringing up the faction conflict during that era.

It was absolutely never a full scale war, which is what people who are asking for faction conflict want. They don't want vanilla, they want Cataclysm, BFA...

There were "tensions". That's about it.

[Joszef Kiprich]

Hold me close!

r, tiny dancer?

[Holdodlig]

Arthas is so back in a romance with Sylvanas

[Samin]

Arthas is so back in a romance with Sylvanas

Which will pay off in TLT when Illidan returns with his new lover Nathanos

[Kereberus]

One small thing i hope for is letting your Warband become follower NPCs for follower dungeons/story mode raids.

[ricardimundo]

Well my idea would be something like

LFR - default color scheme, not dyable
Normal - Base material can be dyed
Heroic - One additional main/major highlight material can be dyed
Mythic (maybe) - almost everything else can be dyed, may be more than 1 additional dye channel depending on the individual piece

I know specifically you are talking about RE-colors but I think its time LFR is gone and we get a queueable Normal, with Heroic and Mythic still group based.

[whoisqnx]

"The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread"

Looks inside

Talking about faction war from years ago
Lowest quality AI slops

Can we speed up the time until the reveal already please...

[Joszef Kiprich]

I know specifically you are talking about RE-colors but I think its time LFR is gone and we get a queueable Normal, with Heroic and Mythic still group based.

And that changes what exactly? The names?

[Berkilak]

Four hours and counting, if I’m not mistaken?

[Vakir]

I don’t disagree that it would be cleaner. But Blizzard wants those 50 different recolours so they can keep the reputation vendor stocked and players on their various treadmills.

No, I absolutely agree. That's my point.

I'm saying just make those vendor items colors that apply to the base item that you can swap (perhaps even with the identical transmog fee), rather than have a separately named weapon/armor piece.

Cleaner UI that cuts out a bunch of extra items clogging the collection but no less engagement driven.

Might actually drive more engagement- mouse over the colors, see a red tint, it says "Dropped from X on Normal Mode or Higher," bing bang boom. How many people would like, say, the purple Judgment Armor and don't know it exists?

[Samin]

I know specifically you are talking about RE-colors but I think its time LFR is gone and we get a queueable Normal, with Heroic and Mythic still group based.

Probably a controversial take, but in that case they should extend Story mode over the entire raid and make the "default color" a reward from completing the main campaign story. Yes, basically free tier. Maybe just the cosmetics without the set bonus? Not sure, not really what I care about there.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Four hours and counting, if I’m not mistaken?

You're correct! We're almost there!

[Mecheon]

I know specifically you are talking about RE-colors but I think its time LFR is gone and we get a queueable Normal, with Heroic and Mythic still group based.

LFR justifies raids being developed in the first place due to getting more people in, and let me tell you, after some of the Larodar runs I've had, I would not trust a queueable normal (surprisingly though I've been pretty good with normals in TWW, but some of the DF ones....)

If LFR goes, raid development goes with it. That's the long and short of it.

[Auxis]

Best part about having to go to bed now is that time will fly and I'll wake up to a bounty of hype!

Last minute wishlist/predictions:
- battle-mage class (2 dps specs (1 melee, 1 ranged weapon), 1 tank spec)
- high elves and Amani troll allied races for Alliance and Horde respectively (I know, such an original prediction!!!)
- class cosmetic spell customization (IMO the warlock pet barber shop thing was a hint/groundwork for this)

G'night folks, see you in the (Void)storm!!!

(I'll probably be online in my bed doomscrolling for another hour or 2 lol)

[xskarma]

I know specifically you are talking about RE-colors but I think its time LFR is gone and we get a queueable Normal, with Heroic and Mythic still group based.

Terrible idea. My guild has a thriving community going exactly cause we do 2 open raid nights where anyone can come for normals. IF it becomes queueable then even less people will bother with guilds and communities. Every time we introduce something where people are randomly forced to play together (and I include low level M+ in that) the toxicity and degradation of the community takes another step.

Leave normals alone. There's plenty of PUG groups if you want to do the content without a guild and be a loner. No need to queue.