Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Cheezits]

The OG Warcraft stuff is very strong. The new stuff is not.

Don't know what they're doing with Amani and Ethereal.

[JDBlou]

Harrandar will be the convergence of all the roots of the world trees, so I'm assuming a non-connected zone.

Based on the screen cap of the blood elf hut covered in vines maybe a rift has opened up, ala Zaralek?

[Lahis]

SIX BOSSES?

That cannot be right - so you can't even fill your vault in one difficulty?

THREE. RAIDS.

The Void Spire has 6 bosses, The Dreamrift has 1 boss and March on Quel'Danas has unannounced number of bosses. That is at least 8 and likely more bosses for the first season.

[Wyrt]

Was there any leaks that were true in the end?

A lot of leaks predicted a 3rd reskinned elf race, they were just wrong about which elf they were reskinning.

[Joshuaj]

Oh, btw, the Haranir's goddess is named Shul'ka. So, at best, we'll maybe get some Elune connections. Otherwise, don't expect anything big.

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THREE. RAIDS.

The Void Spire has 6 bosses, The Dreamrift has 1 boss and March on Quel'Danas has unannounced number of bosses. That is at least 8 and likely more bosses for the first season.

They said 9 bosses.

[Samin]

I disagree, definitely a bunch of new things in there that the previous shots didn't have.

I wonder if there are any hidden things between the trees of the neighbourhood to find. I'm not very attentive to stuff like that so I live it to others and hope.

[Hitei]

where is this from?

The press kit images.

[Capivara]

And you get porcupine elves instead.. Wow

ACTUALLY they are 50% elf 50% troll lol

[Mekkle]

THREE. RAIDS.

The Void Spire has 6 bosses, The Dreamrift has 1 boss and March on Quel'Danas has unannounced number of bosses. That is at least 8 and likely more bosses for the first season.

it likely has 2 bosses because i think they said 9 bosses total

[Makorus]

THREE. RAIDS.

The Void Spire has 6 bosses, The Dreamrift has 1 boss and March on Quel'Danas has unannounced number of bosses. That is at least 8 and likely more bosses for the first season.

We know its 9 bosses. Quel'danas has 2 bosses.

[Helothar]

Personal complaining part, feel free to skip:
This cinematic was really underwhelming to me. The whole announcement actually. The cinematic was simply uninspired, boring; the features are literally deterring. Feels like this expac is focused on a revamped QT and housing and they just couldn't really surprise me with anything more. Haranir (or however we spell it) are also boring, recycled models, and as much as they would have made sense in TWW, they're now way out of date. Players were asking for Ethereals or -- though I'm personally not a fan -- Amani trolls which would have made more sense since trolls are generally more liked. They should have just closed that Haranir story chapter in TWW. I hope others find things in the expac they like, but for me, this is bad news, I think the "go play another game, maybe WoW is not for you anymore" argument people "whining" like myself often get is starting to make sense now. I need to accept that WoW is never going to be what it once meant to me, it is getting farther and farther from it.

Discussion starter part:
Somehow the quality of this cinematic is way off for me. It's just nothing like previous cinematics, everything seems much blurrier, I see pretty unclear details in models, textures are also less clear and nuanced like skin and hair. I have a suspicion that they abandoned their original principle that they would not use generative AI, in fact I'm convinced they started using AI to at least build the base of the cinematic (character models, movements, or even the complete scenes) which they then manually polished maybe and they might have corrected obvious, typical AI errors by human input. But I just can't believe this was a 100% human created cinematic. If so, then the team must have suffered serious workforce loss.

[milkmustache]

The New Player Experience is a streamlined version of Dragonflight... not the The War Within, which is you know, the first expansion of the SAGA.

What the hell is going on??

The transmog updates and New Player Experiences (which is just reusing old content) feel like they'd normally be patch features.

I like the Rootlands zone, the shroom jungle is real nice.

There also seems to be some knock-off Botani action

But like... why not just use Botani? Who we saw run off into Azeroth??

[Vakir]

The best feature in this expansion is capybaras.

[Syphin33]

See you at release = )

[Hitei]

I wonder if there are any hidden things between the trees of the neighbourhood to find. I'm not very attentive to stuff like that so I live it to others and hope.

It looks like there's probably a tower option for house exterior. Several of those around.

[Ashahalasin]

Okay, but aside from like, Salandria, every single Blood Elf character is literally just a High Elf who decided to change their name like 25 years ago.

Yeah I get that. I don't think anyone is denying that.

But I grew up on Warcraft 1 and 2. I want Alliance High Elves, and although I do love Void Elves, and will definitely be maining a VE DH in Midnight, Void Elves just don't hit the spot for HE.

[Ibkee]

It's part two of a saga - with faster releases/updates too - and folks are still struggling to temper expectations.

I think Midnight is going to be absolutely incredible and I'm not really interested in housing.

[Vakir]

The New Player Experience is a streamlined version of Dragonflight... not the The War Within, which is you know, the first expansion of the SAGA.

What the hell is going on??



But like... why not just use Botani? Who we saw run off into Azeroth??

They mentioned there's a speed run TWW feature to explain and catch people up. DF is probably because being an expedition member is the logical next step after Exile's Reach, even if it's lame.

[Nymrohd]

ACTUALLY they are 50% elf 50% troll lol

Lol we DID get elves and trolls! just merged

[huth]

High Elves are Alliance.

High Elves are not Void Elves.

Unsure how an Alliance High Elf has been rollable since TBC. Let me know though, as i'd love to roll one.

No they aren't. Most are Horde. Void Elves are all High Elves.

You can refuse to acknowledge it all you want, but the lore is quite clear on it.

Yeah I get that. I don't think anyone is denying that.

But I grew up on Warcraft 1 and 2. I want Alliance High Elves, and although I do love Void Elves, and will definitely be maining a VE DH in Midnight, Void Elves just don't hit the spot for HE.

That up there is your post, isn't it? So, well, you were denying it just a few minutes ago.