Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Super Dickmann]

Taliesin guessed Salandria, and I think that would've been much more appropriate than Valeera tbh.

She's a Blood Knight and Horde-exclusive. Hopefully she gets a solid story following up on her TBC foreshadowing, though I personally doubt it.

[Ashahalasin]

buddy just make a void elf, you just want a different name tag, void elf have ALL highelf customizations you want, and it was the way blizzard made to give ally the elfs. you just want a diff nametag

Different name tag, different racials and canon recognition of the difference.
The Silver Covenant still exists and is used semi-regularly, and always includes High Elves.

[PolarityER]

I was hoping to hear something about more hero talents, has anyone datamined that yet?

[The-Shan]

were anyones socks blown off?

I was hoping for a little bit of Northern Lordaeron (west of ghostlands), don't really dig the idea of a voidstorm zone either, feels too much like ka'resh. Combining Eversong/Ghostlands/Probably Quel'danas into a single zone feels off too. Not excited for the Underground zone coming out of the War Within either.

No new customization options feels sad too.

DH spec is cool, new Quel'thalas is beautiful as well! Liadrin's new ingame model looks really nice, and I'm very glad Lor'themar is not dead. The prey system/world tiers thing is sick as well. Broadly I'm optimistic. Somewhat mixed, but I like what I'm seeing so far.

[JDBlou]

They specifically said it will be an adjusted leveling path.

So I would imagine it won't be Waking Shores -> Ohnarahan Plains -> Azure Span -> Thaldrazus but will probably cut a lot of the starting zones to make way for Forbidden Reach/Dawn of the Infinite and Emerald Dream.

Oh yeah for sure, I was just saying there actually is a lot of relevance to DF as the lead into levelling for Midnight and the WSS at large.

[Makorus]

Taliesin guessed Salandria, and I think that would've been much more appropriate than Valeera tbh.

I still think it should have been Naleidea. People liked her generally, she is part of the Reliquary and a Blood Elf.

[Nightshade711]

At this point, the high elf salt fuels me. Everyone complains about elf reskins but sure lets have an elf reskin.

Hell, High Elves would be worse than a reskin. They’d just be Blood Elves on Alliance.

Thank god Blizzard isn’t going that route.

[Vakir]

How is it hyperbole? Feature wise Shadowlands had a lot more going for it in terms of what was announced.

Go rewatch it.

Shadowlands literally started the trend of using individual zones as features for its trailer, my dude.

Torghast was vague from the drop, about as vague as Prey is, which we still lack details on.

The remainder was...literally splitting your game in into quarters, which we told them was a bad idea, they ignored, and then proceeded to walk it back after kicking and screaming, while forum sycophants backed them despite us also telling them for over a year. We were right, it was a mess, not a single apology was ever issued, and to this day the ability to swap between Covenants is still unwieldy and unenjoyable if you're going for Korthia mounts or working on the meta achievement or something.

There were other things, like new DK race combinations, new character customization, and craftable legendaries, but all of that was omitted from the reveals and waited until the panels. Kind of like what we're doing now.

Also, no housing. They already gave us a huge smorgasbord of information, we got spoiled with it sooner. Maybe they shouldn't have?

The Haranir are whatever, but they are, factually, a new playable race. One spec is disappointing but it is, factually, one more spec than Shadowlands granted. I'd argue Shadowlands granted a negative number of new specs, frankly, by how cancerous and unwieldy its suite of unnecessary systems were that feel wholly unconnected to your character and their identity. Hey, remember when we said some of those abilities were good and should've been talents? Where are they now?

[Pyrophax]

Blood Elves are horde not High Elves.

Mate, you should really find a source. Blood Elves ARE High Elves. Alliance High Elves are political organization, not different race. Heck, even Void Elves are High Elves.

[Nymrohd]

Only 7 delves?

[Alanar]

An interesting take from someone hoping for taller humans.

/palm.

Vrykul, unique model and animations.

Haranir, literal night elf reskin.

Very rich comparison my guy.

[Makorus]

I do feel people kind of need to relax a bit before going full panic mode, at least until all the panels happened.

I do think Blizzard is stupid for splitting it up like that, but still.

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Vrykul, unique model and lore

Haranir, literal night elf reskin.

Very rich comparison my guy.

Did Vrykul have rich lore when they were introduced?

[Ashahalasin]

She's a Blood Knight and Horde-exclusive. Hopefully she gets a solid story following up on her TBC foreshadowing, though I personally doubt it.

Fair point. Would still enjoy some story with her featured, as she could be an excellent character for story growth.

[Donovan4893]

They built a bridge to Quel'Danas

https://imgur.com/a/xXyXmM3

[Civciv]

Imagine if it were Turalyon touching Liadrin's shoulder in the CGI cinematic, would've been cool.

[Pyrophax]

I still think it should have been Naleidea. People liked her generally, she is part of the Reliquary and a Blood Elf.

We have this character for perfect Blood Elf companion.


But Alliance players don't know him, modern devs probably too, so they put Alliance Blood Elf into it and call it a day.

[Alanar]

I do feel people kind of need to relax a bit before going full panic mode, at least until all the panels happened.

I do think Blizzard is stupid for splitting it up like that, but still.

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Did Vrykul have rich lore when they were introduced?

Ignore the lore then and look at gameplay.

Unique model and animations vs reskin of night elves.

[Super Dickmann]

Fair point. Would still enjoy some story with her featured, as she could be an excellent character for story growth.

I like her but sincerely doubt she'll get a good shake. The Blood Knights have been just basic paladins for eons and a whole cinematic where Liadrin begging the Light is what solves the problem won't help this. Salandria, who's story dates back to when the Blood Knights were actually interesting and was implied as causing quite a lot of damage, including taking over a dragon, will not mesh with this and should avoid screentime as it'll invariably be used for some hack-kneed come to Jesus story.

[Vakir]

Imagine if it were Turalyon touching Liadrin's shoulder in the CGI cinematic, would've been cool.

I thought that's what we were getting in that moment, and I knew it still wasn't going to be that dogshit 2D AI still.

Actually, the way it was cut, I don't think we ever confirmed who the hell it even was. Might be a pre-event thing.

[Makorus]

We have this character for perfect Blood Elf companion.


But Alliance players don't know him, modern devs probably too, so they put Alliance Blood Elf into it and call it a day.

Most players don't know him because he hasn't been relevant since Cataclysm, and even then he wasn't relevant.