Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Pyrophax]

Silvermoon not being fully neutral and having Horde areas is absolutely fine . .. after the expansion ends. It will be very weird during imo.

"Half the player base, you are only really going to be guests to the capital for half this expansion. Sorry. Btw Dalaran crashed and was always fully neutral."

But in Dalaran there was Alliance only places. Same as Horde only. I prefer to have Horde sity with ocasional Alliance presence

[Chickat]

I guess haranir enjoyers (which I am) are pretty happy with that allied race but I agree the features are looking pretty disappointing. Maybe they're reveal more about how they've iterated on already existing features, but as it stands, just the standard zones dungeons and raids basically is not what people were hyped up for

Demon hunter spec and harronir should have been tww patch features. We should get at least 2 races midnight and no new class is a letdown. I guess ot all but confirms tinker in TLT though.

[The-Shan]

Man I don't even care about K'aresh anymore. Without playable Ethereals, my desire to progress the renown is zero.

We could still get them. They wouldn't be in the expansion trailer but maybe in the deep dive that's coming up.

[ro9ue]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/O27b_Y71aII

Surely this short points to KT paladins, or am I just lost in the cope?

I'm hoping they are saving some stuff for later in the week. Hoping and coping.

[FossilFree]

And why add Void Elves for DH but not Nightborne? Feels unbalanced.

Maybe they thought that would offset an updated BE city but no updated draenei one?

[Marlamin]

We could still get them. They wouldn't be in the expansion trailer but maybe in the deep dive that's coming up.

I don't expect any further announcements on the level of the announcements of today this week.

[Pyrophax]

And why add Void Elves for DH but not Nightborne? Feels unbalanced.

Nightborne need some questchain for that. I believe that will come next. As Warlocks and Priests had.

[The-Shan]

Silvermoon not being fully neutral and having Horde areas is absolutely fine . .. after the expansion ends. It will be very weird during imo.

"Half the player base, you are only really going to be guests to the capital for half this expansion. Sorry. Btw Dalaran crashed and was always fully neutral."

I like the idea that alliance are ALREADY welcome in Silvermoon since its not war-time, just like real life cities when rival powers aren't at war... Citizens can visit. In fact, Alleria and Turalyon do in a short story. Turalyon does freely, and Alleria has to be watched because she is a threat to the Sunwell.

[Kiivar86]

Had to go out and run an errand, and while I was out, I thought on things.

Once I got over the "meh", for the most part I do like what I see. The Haranir (or Haronir or however the hell its spelled) don't interest me much, it does feel like they were supposed to be in TWW but got slotted out (maybe to put in K'aresh?). Their realm looks neat though, and maybe we'll get some more answers about what the hell the Beledar is too.

Voidstorm looks neat. Silvermoon is lovely. Overall a pretty bog-standard expansion, really, which is probably partly why it can be a bit disappointing.

[Raetary]

We could still get them. They wouldn't be in the expansion trailer but maybe in the deep dive that's coming up.

This is a playable race we are talking about, if they were happening they absolutely would be in the trailer...

[Reive]

Better than just a reskinned Blood Elf with absolutely nothing interesting about them other than "I can walk into Stormwind without being mobbed by guards."

they're all reskinned elves. at least people like high elves

[Aurabolt]

were anyones socks blown off?

Yep.

I find it a little wierd no one's mentioning the fact we're seeing elves without glowing eyes for the first time in the cinematic. I've seen official art for the Kaldorei with irises but in-game, all the elves are shown with glowing iris-less eyes. This was a nice surprise in the cinematic that they didn't have to do.

Also, have people been noticing the opening cinematics have been getting longer lately? Because they have been. I think this one may actually be the longest one made yet. Unlike TWW's which doesn't make it clear what the world-ending threat is, Midnight shows you very clearly.

In TLT (The Last Titan), we're probably gonna ally with Xal'Atath again.

[Nightshade711]

And why add Void Elves for DH but not Nightborne? Feels unbalanced.

Because there’s 0 story reason for Nightborne DHs.
Alliance having one extra DH race doesn’t matter tbh.

[Jastall]

At this point, the high elf salt fuels me. Everyone complains about elf reskins but sure lets have an elf reskin.

It's one of my silver linings. I don't care about Haranir at all but at least they're not the third set of colors on the exact same model High Elves would be.

[Nymrohd]

I think I am saddest that Spellblade is buried. We got nothing on Hero Talents so I assume we get no new ones (I thought it could perhaps be done as a Mage Hero Talent). No expansion would fit the class as much as this. I am not exactly surprised; pragmatically, adding another melee/tank class offered little except a new theme to the game. But it still sucks because it is one of the most popular fantasy archetypes and I don't think any of the MANY melee magic users in game actually does it justice thematically (because each of them has its own strong theme).

[Graden]

I think you're right, I think she was praying for someone to come help face down the void, and the light answered by sending the Arathi. (Probably ones from their homeland, rather than Hallowfall)

I believe the Light answered by summoning a bunch of random paladins from all over the world, not a particular group. If it had been the Arathi, they would have shown them, but I could be wrong.

[Syegfryed]

Demon hunter spec and harronir should have been tww patch features. We should get at least 2 races midnight and no new class is a letdown. I guess ot all but confirms tinker in TLT though.

We all knew we were not getting a new class, they are creative bankrupt and can barely balance what they have.

And on top of that they are lazy, they totally save those for the new expansion to say they are new expansion stuff, cause besides house they had nothing to sell this expansion on

Seems like we will never see a day again when we have 2 new races, one for each faction like the good old days, cause blizzard is set on destroying their own thematic

[The-Shan]

I don't expect any further announcements on the level of the announcements of today this week.

I think they are going to go into the nitty gritty like they usually do in the deep dive panels, where a lot tends to get revealed. If ethereal are coming in 11.2.7/11.2.5, then I doubt it'd be labeled a Midnight feature, thus not in the trailer.

You are right though that they might still happen even if they aren't announced here. Until we have a 11.2.7 PTR I wouldn't count them out.

[Pheraz]

it's the army of the light that gets teleported to the sunwell btw

check the text

[Pyrophax]

they're all reskinned elves. at least people like high elves

All 3 of HE fans.
BEs are HEs, deal with it.