Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nymrohd]

It's the Army of Light.

Army of the Light is different than armies of the Light. The capitalization matters?

[Merryck]

The "armies of the Light" doesn't mean anything and thank FUCK it's not Yrel

[Marlamin]

Honestly the only thing I liked about the reveal (so far) is the zones because they look absolutely top tier. Do we know how they're connected to Eastern Kingdoms?

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/in.../1100-6534043/

In Midnight, Eversong Woods, Zul'Aman and Silvermoon City will finally be a part of the Eastern Kingdoms proper--no loading screen required. Players will be able to fly, walk, or ride directly to the new zones from anywhere in the Eastern Kingdoms.

[vindicator782]

It's the Army of Light.

armies of the light (plural) =/= Army of the Light (faction)

[Nymrohd]

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/in.../1100-6534043/

I wonder how they will handle Stratholme. The Amani border can just be hills and mountain but they will have to do something about Strat.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Their tattoos were arcane based, Illidan was an arcane based spellcaster and came up with the stuff from an arcane direction

The tattoos were retconned to be Fel based in chonicels/Illidan novel.

[FossilFree]

Army of the Light is different than armies of the Light. The capitalization matters?

In that case, there are 3 potentials. The Army of Light, the Lightbound Crusade, and the Arathi Empire.

[Chickat]

In Dawnwell dungeon, who looks to be in Haranir zone, we must "stop rapid growt before it reach Silvermoon City." So looks like if will be underground zone with entrance near main hub.

And oh boy, if first tier is going into Voidstorm and Amani zone is in launch, speculation season will be wild. I have no idea where this story could go beside eventually Northrend and Worldcore.



Typical major reveal day, doomsayers you never see in other occasions crawl from who knows where and shout how DISSSAPOINTEEED they are.

I'm mainly disappointed that Quel'thalas is small and no cool race or class. Its no where near a patch though LMAO.

[Maxilian]

I play MMORPGs with Housing. It is indeed a great feature. But it is not part of your core gameplay experience. It is something you do as downtime activity. This will never be a fantasy SIMs (and we can see that by the fact that there will likely be minimal exterior customization).

Completely true, I do hope that they let us add portals to the houses (or to the neighbour) that way we can use it as a full home base, though not sure if that would be good or bad, as it would make some cities be more empty, but will also make people interact more with the other players from their neighbour.

[Jastall]

It had delves and hero talents which were a little bit more interesting than Prey who are probably just going to be boss expeditions anyway. So far they are advertising new transmog feature as a big improvement when it's simply just "You can swap mogs for free and without even opening the mog menu" it's really worrying.



Outside of the dungeons and delves on which you are right, everything else could have happened in patches. 2 zones are recycled from BC. There is only two original new zones and they uses assets from patches. 8 dungeons but only 4 of them will be available during S1 and 3 raids with 1 simply being Silvermoon's outdoor and the other one a Gruul / Onyxia room.

Just as a reminder, 8.2 had 2 new zones, 1 mega dungeon (= 2 dungeons), azerite essences (a new progression system with a new action button in most scenarios). So yeah, we're 6 dungeons and 10 delves (which are just big caves btw) away from the patch feature. And again it is 50$. It can't be worse than Shadowlands of course, but it doesn't get any better than TWW.

"If you ignore more than half the content being added, it's almost the same amount of content being added!" Sure, keep digging yourself deeper if you want to.

The zones being recycled from TBC seems a particularly disingenuous point. This isn't Cata where the "revamped" zones maybe had a couple new assets stapled here and there but were otherwise unchanged from vanilla for the majority of them, with some obvious exceptions like the Barrens. They clearly redid all of it with modern assets from the ground up, allowing for flying, and Quel'thalas is (likely) no longer in instanced jail. That's as much work as any new zone.

[vindicator782]

I like haranir personally, finally I can have an alliance shaman that isn't a dwarf or draenei

[Merryck]

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/in.../1100-6534043/

That's excellent. I remember some characters in this thread were clowning on people for suggesting it could be apart of Eastern Kingdoms with no loading screen.

[Reive]

I mean, it got me hyped. Quel'thalas and Quel'danas are updated and in prime condition!

no offense man, but you are always hyped about wow lol

They should have kept Housing reveal for now. I am sorry but the mid season part of S1 was not that desperate that it required the Housing Reveal.

yeah, i agree. it would have made the announcement more impactful

[Nymrohd]

In that case, there are 3 potentials. The Army of Light, the Lightbound Crusade, and the Arathi Empire.

Why not all three?

[Samin]

Army of the Light is different than armies of the Light. The capitalization matters?

There's also not necessarily a connection to the cinematic. This could be a description of the campaign leading up to the Voidspire?

[Raetary]

It's the Army of Light.

It's not the Army of the Light, it's the armies of the Light, us.


The Voidspire takes place first in the narrative, Liadrin summons her Paladin friends after.

[Reive]

I think they overestimate how excited people are about housing

I'm sure plenty of people are - but as someone who really doesn't care about it at all and will never use it beyond what I'm forced to - midnight might have the most disappointing features trailer ever

it's not that. housing was revealed 1 year ago so people don't feel the "impact" anymore

[Ibkee]

Would be fun if Yrel and X'era show up.

I mean, it's more likely to be the Army of the Light in the same universe who are literally chilling on the Vindicaar waiting for a moment like this (except Lothraxion sadly)

[Nymrohd]

yeah, i agree. it would have made the announcement more impactful

More impactful? We'd be having fireworks. People would hyperventilate.

[Marlamin]

They should have kept Housing reveal for now. I am sorry but the mid season part of S1 was not that desperate that it required the Housing Reveal.

Absolutely no way they would have gotten away with that given the amount of shit that has already leaked through.