Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[blaatschaap]

Is there any panel planned for delves? Guessing not? My last hope basically for this expac is some iteration on the gameplay for it. If it's just going to be the same stuff we have had but in different locations, it's going to be a massive bummer. The content is really not fun or engaging enough for the most part.

[BaumanKing]

If we didn't already know Alleria's story was continuing and gotten her family's portraits, I'd expect Liadrin to be the main hero here. And it would certainly fit with the whole Light vs. Void focus. Maybe she'll be sharing their spotlight?

Maybe. Still, I find it odd that the Epic Edition has portraits of Arator and Turalyon, even though we now know they're not the main characters of this expansion. They should have had portraits of Liadrin and Lor'themar instead, but whatever.

[blaatschaap]

I guess now we know why the gameplay systems panel is only 30 minutes, there is literally nothing to say, lmao

[Ersula]

There’s a difference between being interested in the lore of a certain race and having certain areas of the main hub of a year and a half expansion hub locked off to you because you chose the wrong faction.

To use that argument - what about Void Elf players?

You want to be part of the alliance but don't want there to be consequences to that decision. It's called worldbuilding. This is like the roleplayer's version of "I never thought that face eating jaguars would eat my face?"

Seems like a lot of extra work to a casual player just to get access to something that is traditionally open to all players who brought an expansion.

Which is irrelevant because those people won't care that they can't enter the blood knight's domicile, etc.

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I guess now we know why the gameplay systems panel is only 30 minutes, there is literally nothing to say, lmao

Well, it's not a q&a panel, so that's a normal length. It's like when ion was talking about Earthen culture at blizzcon.

The one thing that would have me take back my initial reaction if they tell us the new class race combos weren't in the featurette because they're coming in 11.2.7

[Bwgmon]

I hope so. I'm having trouble tracking where information is coming from, and Blizzard's own YouTube shorts are filled with errors (both in narration and AI captioning...).

Dawnwell is way too similar to Sunwell.

My personal theory is that the Blood Elves may have taken the Moonwell in the Ghostlands and infused it with the Sunwell's energy to help heal the region, and that became known as the Dawnwell.

[Ersula]

I hope so. I'm having trouble tracking where information is coming from, and Blizzard's own YouTube shorts are filled with errors (both in narration and AI captioning...)

the vo isn't ai - they have the devs do vo for whatever reason. I believe the Dawnwell is what they're calling the powered-up Sunwell - which immediately makes me think there will be a corrupted "duskwell" raid in 12.2

[blaatschaap]

The one thing that would have me take back my initial reaction if they tell us the new class race combos weren't in the featurette because they're coming in 11.2.7

Yeah, I guess we both know that's hopium. If they had stuff like that to announce, they'd be doing it now when people's attention is on wow announcements. Same as people still hoping we're getting ethereals in 11.2.5 or 11.2.7, it's not happening

[Thomir]

When are we getting 11.2.7 news?

[Ersula]

Yeah, I guess we both know that's hopium. If they had stuff like that to announce, they'd be doing it now when people's attention is on wow announcements. Same as people still hoping we're getting ethereals in 11.2.5 or 11.2.7, it's not happening

I mean, 12.0 is still a good while away. 11.2 7 has to be something.

[Viridiel]

the vo isn't ai - they have the devs do vo for whatever reason. I believe the Dawnwell is what they're calling the powered-up Sunwell - which immediately makes me think there will be a corrupted "duskwell" raid in 12.2

I didn't think it was. I assumed the captioning was AI due to several mistakes ("fell relics", "The Blinding Veil"), but I guess those could've been made by a human. Both the captioning and narrator got Astalor's name wrong, though, and the narrator says "the Nalorakk" at one point (but the captions just say Nalorakk).

[Ersula]

The dissemination of wow features through shorts & tiktoks is crazy. Did you know they're rewriting the exiles reach questline in 12.0 to include Jaina & Thrall? They put that in a tiktok

[Wyrt]

The WoW Underdark really confuses me. Somehow the Niffen get from Dragon Isles to Khaz'algar underground, same with the Drogbar and now the Haranir are somehow underground near Quel'thalas?

Are there like portals or is the entire planet just 1 big Underdark? And if so, how did all the caves survive the Sundering?

[Nightshade711]

The dissemination of wow features through shorts & tiktoks is crazy. Did you know they're rewriting the exiles reach questline in 12.0 to include Jaina & Thrall? They put that in a tiktok

I wish they’d put actual information like this on the actual page for Midnight.
Like the actual page doesn’t even have actual zone pictures for the sections where they should be showing off the zones.

[Super Dickmann]

The dissemination of wow features through shorts & tiktoks is crazy. Did you know they're rewriting the exiles reach questline in 12.0 to include Jaina & Thrall? They put that in a tiktok

God knows what we're fucking missing is more Jaina and Thrall.

[Dnusha]

Remember the Rule 34 pics with Orcs and Trolls from TBC? That's what you get 20 years later.

[Albertillo]

I wish they’d put actual information like this on the actual page for Midnight.
Like the actual page doesn’t even have actual zone pictures for the sections where they should be showing off the zones.

Yeah right. I saw the videos and then came to this site and saw all the dungeon, raids, new solo system info... And I was like where was all of this? Then I noticed that they posted it in YouTube Shorts

Why not just make a long video with all the new things as always ...

[nysisyn]

Guys, with the addition of automatic transmog change depending on situation (In house, In outworld, in town..)

Do you think Dracthyr and Worgen would have a situation dragon form/Antropic form and Worgen form/Human form

And finally do two transmog, one for each form ?

That would be so good for me as an Evoker player.

[blaatschaap]

I mean, 12.0 is still a good while away. 11.2 7 has to be something.

it will be shocked if 11.2.7 has a lot more than housing preview.

[Ibkee]

Making Silvermoon primarily still a Horde city was the right call, but a bitter pill to swallow after they elected for Gilneas and Belameth to be entirely neutral.

I'm not interested in the Haranir, but I can see them being a more popular pick than Earthen and even some older AR. They feel underwhelming because the spotlight was never fully shining on them in TWW, but that's set to change - plus it can't be denied that a majority of the playerbase generally care little for the lore and go based on aesthetics alone.

Genuinely would be interested to know how much of the WSS was planned as being a single expansion before Metzen stepped in.

[vindicator782]

I have to say the reaction to the reveal seems positive everywhere but here - I am baffled at how negative it is

I'm disappointed at no new class but everything else looks great, exactly what I expected really