Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[ImTheMizAwesome]

I watched as you guys deepthroated the systems of the worst expansion after we warned you for a year, which turned out to suck. Using the actual facts and data we were given, not based on future based anxiety around the unknown.

Don't lump me in with forum defense squads. Blizzard is a shitty company among large companies that are inherently shitty.

I wasn't "deepthroating" anything, i wasn't even there for months much before reveal, so i don't even know what you are talking about.

Like i said it's not that deep, if you want to go psychological for such silly matter, then make an apppointment somewhere.

[Nymrohd]

Considering Tali's reading comprehension is shoddy at best, if this is actually true: 100% we're getting an Alliance hub with the reverse being true in one of the Patch zones, ala Tazavesh

??? Like a second capital in 12.1? But hey, this is the man who thought we'd get playable Tuskar.

[Xilurm]

Considering Tali's reading comprehension is shoddy at best, if this is actually true: 100% we're getting an Alliance hub with the reverse being true in one of the Patch zones, ala Tazavesh

That'd be crazy. What if it's Stratholme? And you walk through the gates as you normally would, no loading screen and you just go behind the mountain where its now expanded to include the entire city in the open world.

That'd be cool.

[Wangming]

No videos, it is just the slides people posted here as well.

Still, an article that talks about it,

[Vakir]

Sure, you'll have more time to convince people to buy your thing, but the core audience you wanted to reach has been seriously turned off.

Lmao, the core audience are literally on here during normal people working hours (or earlier) angrily demanding instant gratification for information that will still exist no matter when it shows up.

They're already sold. They're Jennifer Connelly cradling her heroin in the fetal position.

[Wangming]

The pre purchase armour set actually looks pretty neat as long as you replace the super clunky helmet and shoulders. I like how dark and clean they look on my Void Elf.

If I ever get to make a wow expansion it will be longcoats, hoods and top hats for everyone. And a few masks.

[vindicator782]

That'd be crazy. What if it's Stratholme? And you walk through the gates as you normally would, no loading screen and you just go behind the mountain where its now expanded to include the entire city in the open world.

That'd be cool.

Never seen a reveal so disappointing and flawed we are in copium mode on day 2

[Springrunner]

Dalaran is suposed to be a full city just like silvermoon, the game just didn't have the power to make cities like Suramar, Boralus, Undermine or new-Silvermoon back then, specially not a floating city in a zone which had to be scrapped as a leveling zone because most PC could not handle the loaded city hub at the same time.

They also constrained themselves to the size of the bubble of Dalaran by Lordamere lake for some reason. They made it a point to show that the city fits the hole it left. Also they didn't really take all the city, there's supposed to be outer areas they didn't take when they made the city levitate.

[vindicator782]

Lmao, the core audience are literally on here during normal people working hours (or earlier) angrily demanding instant gratification for information that will still exist no matter when it shows up.

They're already sold. They're Jennifer Connelly cradling her heroin in the fetal position.

Must blame players
Must not be mad at billion dollar company

[Lady Atia]

??? Like a second capital in 12.1? But hey, this is the man who thought we'd get playable Tuskar.

Well, we do expect the Draenei isles to come into play aswell. And the Tuskarr should be playable are really more of a meme lol. He knows that.

[Wangming]

Considering Tali's reading comprehension is shoddy at best, if this is actually true: 100% we're getting an Alliance hub with the reverse being true in one of the Patch zones, ala Tazavesh

So the void are just Devourers from Shadowlands now? That's extremely boring.

I do believe Tali is one of the few who actually has industry clout and could probably get exclusive info if he wanted to.
On the other hand the guy couldn't pronounce Harbinger properly to save his wife. So I'm not sure how good he is at his own native language.

[Dnusha]

is that a panel? maybe its up?
upd. nvm

[blaatschaap]

It seems you haven't taken a close enough look. The Voidstorm zone has enough entirely new architecture (where the Domanaar live), as well as new groundclutter, as well as new skyboxes. There being an Ethereal presence with some Manaforges isn't indicative of it being a copy, it just makes narrative-sense to have them there as well. Besides, K'aresh got a lot of other content, though. The Phase-diving introduces some other dynamics for the zone, as well as the periodic rares and the ecological system for the Ecodome we have to manage. Remember, art isn't just props, but also music, voice-acting, background skyboxes, etc. K'aresh has its own unique art, still. Maybe not as much as Undermine had, but that's not a weird thing.

the fact that voidstorm has stuff k'aresh doesn't have doesn't mean the identical stuff we do see wasn't copied from voidstorm, obviously they didn't copy it all. anyway, you can think what you want, but there is strong consensus forming among people who look into these things (literally) professionally as data miners for fan sites and other knowledgable creators that what I claimed is the case. why was orweyna prominently in the tww launch trailer if she has only a handful of throwaway quests in the campaign? here RedShirtGuy https://x.com/TheRedShirtGuy/status/1957966990498541688 points out k'aresh borrows from voidstorm and shadowlands. that's why they retconned brokers and ethereals to both be k'areshi, so they could reuse SL assets. the fact that they kind of made it work, because broker culture was already a fascimile of ethereals, doesn't mean 11.2 was always meant to be k'aresh. they likely pivoted around midway through TWW development. might be related to metzen coming in and turning it into a 'saga'. we'll never know the full details

[vindicator782]

A few pages ago : It's only a small section of the city you're overreacting
Now : Look I'm sure alliance will get their own city in the middle of the expansion for some reason

Can we just admit it's a terrible idea now

inb4 "it's a horde city"

Yeah that tried to defect to the alliance TWICE, clearly Lor'themar doesn't have an issue with the alliance when it suits him

[Wangming]

Well, we do expect the Draenei isles to come into play aswell. And the Tuskarr should be playable are really more of a meme lol. He knows that.

That would make the most sense, yes. Unless we do get Gilneas redone and i take back anything negative I said about Midnight.
Except for Arator's stupid hair.

[Nymrohd]

That'd be crazy. What if it's Stratholme? And you walk through the gates as you normally would, no loading screen and you just go behind the mountain where its now expanded to include the entire city in the open world.

That'd be cool.

Would make little sense in lore to make Stratholme an Alliance city though. Most of its original population lives next door in Undercity and is Horde.

[Wangming]

A few pages ago : It's only a small section of the city you're overreacting
Now : Look I'm sure alliance will get their own city in the middle of the expansion for some reason

Can we just admit it's a terrible idea now

Which is why Silvermoon should have been a contested and void infested area until after the expansion is finished when the Blood Elves get it back. All of it.

[Nymrohd]

A few pages ago : It's only a small section of the city you're overreacting
Now : Look I'm sure alliance will get their own city in the middle of the expansion for some reason

Can we just admit it's a terrible idea now

inb4 "it's a horde city"

Yeah that tried to defect to the alliance TWICE, clearly Lor'themar doesn't have an issue with the alliance when it suits him

I mean, if they gave the other side an entire city as well during the expansion, it would have been fine already. It's why I thought we'd be better off in IQD

[blaatschaap]

I do believe Tali is one of the few who actually has industry clout and could probably get exclusive info if he wanted to.
On the other hand the guy couldn't pronounce Harbinger properly to save his wife. So I'm not sure how good he is at his own native language.

can't even pronounce Stratholme!

[Andromedes]

A few pages ago : It's only a small section of the city you're overreacting
Now : Look I'm sure alliance will get their own city in the middle of the expansion for some reason

Yeah but bear with me. What if Exodar takes off and crashes into new patch zone? Or next to Silvermoon?