Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

The entire Blizzard Weekly covers Classic Hardcore this week and not a single mention of any In Dev most likely next week if we follow this logic.

[Cheezits]

They will probably drop a story cinematic that explains the name of the patch. The fact that the bulk of the patches content is encrypted means that there is little to publicly hype.

[Dracullus]

It's pretty simple, if 10.2 is October, we will see PTR in next 1-2 weeks, no matter how ready is 10.1.7.

If 10.2 indeed will be early October, it gives room for 10.3 - Season 3 could last from October to March, then it could follow SL schedule (season in March, fated August). But I wouldn't put my money on this after I saw Hallow's End and anniversary stuff in 10.1.7 build.

Oh, and if 10.2 info release will be near, you can bet people like MrGM will start giving hints they know something.

[Catastrophy349]

For 10.1 announcement/10.0.7 release date, they happened simultaneously, and content creators basically released YouTube videos/Blizzard articles circulated AT RANDOM on March 8th (Wednesday). "Some streamers" hyped this week up (Week of March 7/8); however, nothing was officially announced for making the announcement from Blizzard.

[Catastrophy349]

So you're saying something similar may happen with 10.2?

Just pointing out facts/how things went down for 10.1 announcement/10.0.7 release date announcement. Who knows what will happen for 10.2?

[Catastrophy349]

Ngl, what if 10.2 is announced the same week as 10.1.7's release? I wouldn't hate it, but idk, there's something really cool about multiple PTRs happening lol

One could argue that they "may" wait for 10.1.7 to release not to "spoil" the story for 10.2 (through the announcement). Remember, 10.1 was announced BEFORE 10.0.7 released (and 10.0.7 story was encrypted until release, similar to story content for 10.1.7 being encrypted). So, we knew what 10.1 patch was BEFORE 10.0.7 was available to play though.

[Raetary]

If they keep the cadence up everything would fit in just fine.

10.1.7 releasing on September 5th, 8 weeks after 10.1.5
Followed by the 10.2 announcement the week of, or week after.

10.2 releases Octorber 17th or 24th, after 6-7 weeks.
Followed by Blizzcon on Nov. 2nd the next week or 2.

I'm a prophet, bow before my wisdom!

Yeah, you right.

I mean, I'm up for a 10.2 announcement today.

It's too late for today.
And there is no mention of a new update for this week (besides, classic hardcore)

So if we get it earlier, probably next week or the week after.

[Catastrophy349]

Also, I am not saying that is "what they will do" (my comments above). I am saying that "one could argue that".

[Darkarath]

I would be surprised if 10.2 goes live before 25/10/2023 or 01/11/2023 (EU dates). It might even be released after Blizzcon on 08/11/2023. Especially if 10.2 is DF's final patch, which for me is increasingly likely (sadly). I am pretty sure that some expansions were announced before the final patch of the current expansion (at the time) was released.

[Woggmer]

Looking at the blue post. There is also this.

August 11

• (Article) Blues News

I don't know if this could be the announcement for 10.2, could be nothing but... /shrug

[Dracullus]

If we consider October release:

- 17th October is deadline for Mythic race, it's possible it will be done under week, but you can never tell is some boss will be broken/overtuned. And I think many (most?) members of top guilds wnat to go to Blizzcon.
- so deadline for patch is 10th October
- let's say 7 weeks are minimum for testing
- they already has confirmed Classic info dump on Thursday

So it should be next week, at most week after that. After that, November release is pretty certain.

I don't know if this could be the announcement for 10.2, could be nothing but... /shrug

It's recap of news from whole week.

[Reive]

they don't need to announce 10.2 early. there's no diablo 4 coming out anymore

[Luck4]

I don't see a problem with DF ending at 10.2.0/10.2.5.

I know many people want a major content patch 6-8 months before the next expansion, but I think a little content drought like we always had before a new expansion isn't that bad, especially now that Fated Season exists (although I dearly hope the Fated Raids in DF will end-up being easier than SL because I didn't enjoy the re-prog in Fated Raids in SL).

I think focusing on the next expansion should be the highest priority since, if it fails, we can get another WOD/SL. Don't matter how good major patches are, all they do is slow down the bleeding. What truly pumps the game is a good expansion.

[Catastrophy349]

Don't forget, we are getting ACTUAL content/story in 10.X.5/7 patches unlike previous expansions. DF has had A LOT of content already (considering we are ONLY in patch 10.1.5). With 10.1.7 upcoming, 10.2 soon after, "if" 10.2 is the FINAL "major patch", that's not to say we won't get more "story content/content in general" for 10.2.5/.7 before 11.0.

[Darkarath]

Don't forget, we are getting ACTUAL content/story in 10.X.5/7 patches unlike previous expansions. DF has had A LOT of content already (considering we are ONLY in patch 10.1.5). With 10.1.7 upcoming, 10.2 soon after, "if" 10.2 is the FINAL "major patch", that's not to say we won't get more "story content/content in general" for 10.2.5/.7 before 11.0.

We will obviously get 10.2.5 and 10.2.7 and I expect them to be similar in quality to the previous 10.X.5 and 10.X.7 patches.

Even so, I just hate expansions with two big patches(WoD and SL...). If you cannot develop an expansion story through three big patches maybe you should have not done such an expansion.

I am aware that if 10.2.7 is the last patch of DF we would probably have by then more or at least the same amount of content of any other expansion, but I would still feel scammed.

I might give it a pass if 11.0 truly changes WoW and its subscription model with it. It is really complicated for new players to get in the game and the current model is not helping.

[Revamp Man]

10.2 being the end then just fated is my personal hope because it seems they overlooked some obvious dragon storylines in favor of the new stuff and I'd rather let it end than have more stuff that ends up muddling the established lore again.

Tyr ran experiments on dragon eggs and that's why the incarnates are angry.
The incarnates are so powerful multiple aspects were needed to fight them
Deathwing only gave into the whispers because the incarnates attacked
We don't need to preserve the true timeline because CHROMIE STOPPED A FIXED POINT with 0 repercussions
Ysera and malfurion are now tied together to get the aspect back...only to have her give her daughter a pep talk

[Catastrophy349]

The conversation for 11.0 and whether or not a 10.3 is needed/should happen will be a lot easier once 10.2 is officially announced. Right now, everyone is "speculating" what 10.2 will be, but at the end of the day, no one knows. Can 10.2 provide a "satisfying conclusion" to DF? I don't know, seems very unlikely at the moment. However, again, we don't know what will be in 10.2, and even then, what 11.0 will even be. So, while the "semantics" of only "two major patches" feels bad, for sure, from a narrative and content perspective, that "feeling" may change depending on what is left in DF, and what is expected for 11.0.

[Revamp Man]

10.1.7 Sept 5th
10.2 has to be early October because of rwf unless they delay the raid (believe it or not they do care about the event)
Figure 6 months for the tier so
Possibility 1:
10.3 in May
11.0 in November

Possibility 2:
Fated season in May
Launch in September

1 leaves the first patch and immediate story for blizzcon
2 is similar but allows more detail about future content for blizzcon

I want my double on use murder trinket combo

[Xilurm]

10.2 info dump waiting room

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYOBrDOioV8&t=19s

Same but playing this instead.

[Revamp Man]

The conversation for 11.0 and whether or not a 10.3 is needed/should happen will be a lot easier once 10.2 is officially announced. Right now, everyone is "speculating" what 10.2 will be, but at the end of the day, no one knows. Can 10.2 provide a "satisfying conclusion" to DF? I don't know, seems very unlikely at the moment. However, again, we don't know what will be in 10.2, and even then, what 11.0 will even be. So, while the "semantics" of only "two major patches" feels bad, for sure, from a narrative and content perspective, that "feeling" may change depending on what is left in DF, and what is expected for 11.0.

If we face incarnates at the tree and empower the aspects I think that will be a good ending and leaves hints for the future with iridikron surviving.

We could face the twilight cult and a returned chromatus S a 10.3 story but if there no thread from 10.2 I don't think it would happen

Speculation is the only thing that makes these forums interesting and it's fine until you get ppl doing "This WILL/WON'T HAPPEN because I said so"