Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Lahis]

New WoWhead article asserts that the Prey system will have NO player power attached to it. Damn it, Blizzard never learns. If there is no Hero gear from it, no one will do it past the first month unless rewards are extremely timegated.

And if it did have gear rewards, it would turn into another treadmill majority of players only do because they were forced to do so.

Cosmetics are better imo, especially on solo content. Then I can do it if I want the mount, and me not doing it is not away from anyone else's enjoyment.

[Pyrophax]

neither were most humans. Garithos was a single warlord that acted on his own. Like Arthas isn't representative off all other humans either, or Illidan of all night elves, or Kael'thas of all blood elves, and the list goes on.

Garrosh was single orc leader.
Silvannas was single banshee.

Garrithos was all that remains from Alliance of Lordaeron. If we remove that - then we can go further.
Blood Elves didn't do anything wrong bc it was Sunfury, not all Blood Elves.
Sylvannas army doesn't represent Horde, so again, nothing personal.
Brennadam, Theramore, Purgin of Dalaran. Troll wars. How fast we should remove faction allegance from things that we don't like? And who give right to do that?

Old Horde did Path of Glory. Demon blood Infused Horde, but still Horde. And part of that people still in new Horde.
Horde bombs Theramore.
Horde burn World Tree.
Horde siege Brennadam.
Alliance purge Dalaran. Alliance kills and enslave Blood Elves.
Alliance prince burned ships in Northrend.
Alliance forces purged Stratholme.
Alliance forced done internment camps.
Alliance sabotaged BEs.
Alliance massacre taurens and raized their home.

If we don't reflect mistakes - it will continue. Lessons must be learned.

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Oh please send that exactly with this format to Blizzard in Cali, they will love how their design choice is all about promoting nationalism. Foreigners should be Kill On Sight! Join ICE!

You seems to confusing nationalism to intolerance. There is nothing wrong with nationalism and patriotism. Fascism is bad though.

[Nymrohd]

I think faction war nonsense about past grievances has little place here. It makes sense to discuss the SMC situation in the context of this expansion

[nysisyn]

There is only one Army of the light, and Turalyon leads it.

The Army of Light is an immense army prophetized by Velen in a vision. It's something much greater than Turalyon's army that rally all the horde and Alliance race but also dragon. Led by Anduin to fight the Darkness.

Turalyon and the Lightforged call themselves the Army of Light in legion yes, and sometimes Lightforged or Golden army. They are member of this army of light, but the Army of Light is not just them. I hope you understand better.

And Liadrin clearly call the "Light", the cosmic force and it's this Entity that send an army.

[Jaggler]

Can we have another useless 30 second youtube short pls? People are arguing about stupid stuff again.

[Ibkee]

The Army of Light is an immense army prophetized by Velen in a vision. It's something much greater than Turalyon's army that rally all the horde and Alliance race but also dragon. Led by Anduin to fight the Darkness.

Turalyon and the Lightforged call themselves the Army of Light in legion yes, and sometimes Lightforged or Golden army. They are member of this army of light, but the Army of Light is not just them. I hope you understand better.

And Liadrin clearly call the "Light", the cosmic force and it's this Entity that send an army.

Literally wrong on all accounts. Please educate yourself: https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Army_of_the_Light

The Army of the Light refers exclusively to the one set up by Xe'ra, who named it, and is led by Turalyon. There is no other usage of the term "The Army of the Light" in Warcraft other than specifically this one.

[Fiercelord]

Sorry if this was asked or posted already, I was wondering if there are any new interviews up besides the Gamespot and spanish ones. Also, is there a list of people who will interview the devs today and tomorrow?

[bruxx]

Can we have another useless 30 second youtube short pls? People are arguing about stupid stuff again.

I know exactly how to stop this faction war nonsense...

It's not too late for Ethereals to join the fight for the soul of our world. Ve'nari promised they would be there when we need them, and we may have some hidden surprise yet to be revealed.

Am I setting myself for disappointment? Nah, I'm already disappointed

[Aeula]

Nothing. Neutral like all the other post-BFA race additions.

Alliance Trolls gonna be glorious.

Ideally the Amani join the Alliance INSTEAD of the Horde. A reverse Nightborne situation where the blood elves piss off the Amani and the Alliance snaps them up. Horde can get something else instead like Ogres. (I know Ogres aren't thematic right now but the Horde's been overdue Ogres since the game's Alpha).

[Marlamin]

I doubt if they're a serious website, they'd risk their reputation reporting nonsense.

While I am sure the talent thing is probably true, they do report on nonsense sometimes: https://altertime.es/article/blizzar...nsion-midnight

That was a joke image made by one of the dataminers that doesn't have any real info on it and even after that was pointed out they never bothered to correct it even though they said they'd look into it, so they're not exactly 100% reputable.

But again, bar any miscommunication/mistranslating I can't see how they'd mess up the talent thing.

[nysisyn]

Literally wrong on all accounts. Please educate yourself: https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Army_of_the_Light

The Army of the Light refers exclusively to the one set up by Xe'ra, who named it, and is led by Turalyon. There is no other usage of the term "The Army of the Light" in Warcraft other than specifically this one.

I'm sorry but you are wrong. Just look at the army coming from the sunwell. The name of this army. What Blizzard said about them. They are not the Lightforged Draenei. It's the real Army of the Light.

I advise you to learn the lore around the army of light, which is much more older than the page you linked.

[Jaggler]

I know exactly how to stop this faction war nonsense...

It's not too late for Ethereals to join the fight for the soul of our world. Ve'nari promised they would be there when we need them, and we may have some hidden surprise yet to be revealed.

Am I setting myself for disappointment? Nah, I'm already disappointed

New Allied race: The botanist elf with the bees

[bruxx]

New Allied race: The botanist elf with the bees

I demand it to be a beekeeper hero class and I'm sold.

[shade3891]

Ethereals could still join us in TWW 11.2.5 or 11.2.7 and are not a Midnight feature?

[Arcinatoss]

Blizz dislikes giving us what we actually want so we're probably gonna get ethereal dwarves or some shit instead of actual ethereals.

[Ibkee]

I advise you to learn the lore around the army of light, which is much more older than the page you linked.

The page I linked is literally the Warcraft Wiki.

By all means show me the page for the other "Army of the Light" if you're so sure it exists.

[Catastrophy349]

No player power, you say? https://youtu.be/ZL846VrXkKU?si=iIwFajWzVDJ3F3rn

[Arcinatoss]

No player power, you say? https://youtu.be/ZL846VrXkKU?si=iIwFajWzVDJ3F3rn

Man, just WHY would they exclude apex talents from the feature trailer? These talents actually sound kinda cool.

[Joszef Kiprich]

I guess it would make more sense if the Amani joined the Alliance. They hate the Blood Elves, no love for the Darkspear and are neutral to the Zandalari at best.
I would play a Blue Troll.

[Cherry123]

The Army of Light is an immense army prophetized by Velen in a vision. It's something much greater than Turalyon's army that rally all the horde and Alliance race but also dragon. Led by Anduin to fight the Darkness.

Turalyon and the Lightforged call themselves the Army of Light in legion yes, and sometimes Lightforged or Golden army. They are member of this army of light, but the Army of Light is not just them. I hope you understand better.

And Liadrin clearly call the "Light", the cosmic force and it's this Entity that send an army.

Velen’s prophecy is no longer canon, and Anduin’s character has been completely ruined. I don’t understand why Blizzard included him in expansions where he didn’t belong. The Legion expansion was meant to be the starting point for Anduin’s arc, and Battle for Azeroth was supposed to be the centerpiece of his character development. In BFA, he was set up to fail as an inexperienced leader but grow stronger by the end. After BFA, he should have faded into the background until the Midnight expansion, where the prophesied clash between Light and Void was meant to take place, establishing him as the leader his character was built to become.

Instead, Blizzard turned a character with grand potential into an emotional mess, focusing more on his tears than his actual character or leadership. His whining became a defining trait, overshadowing his true purpose. When his main writer, Christie Golden, was let go, the developers looked at Anduin and saw nothing but a string of failures. That’s how Anduin’s character was destroyed and forgotten. His entire arc was supposed to lead to him becoming the leader who would guide the Light against the Void—that was the core of his character. But now, he’s absent from his own expansion and didn’t even manage to become a decent king. He’s remembered for nothing but his teary eyes.