Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Dracullus]

So what's your wishlist for patch zones? Currently mine:

- 12.1 - Draenei Islands with Exodar (smaller than Silvermoon, but with Alliance only areas), combined would make pretty big patch zone - Light focused patch? Avaloren forces arrival?
- 12.2 - Northern Lordareon - new small zone north from Plaguelands, with Stratholme docks as Tazavesh-like hub (maybe 2 Stratholme dungeons reworked for Season 3?), would be nice callback to Warcraft 3 when Arthas set sail from there to Northrend.

[Nymrohd]

So what's your wishlist for patch zones? Currently mine:

- 12.1 - Draenei Islands with Exodar (smaller than Silvermoon, but with Alliance only areas), combined would make pretty big patch zone - Light focused patch? Avaloren forces arrival?
- 12.2 - Northern Lordareon - new small zone north from Plaguelands, with Stratholme docks as Tazavesh-like hub (maybe 2 Stratholme dungeons reworked for Season 3?), would be nice callback to Warcraft 3 when Arthas set sail from there to Northrend.

Draenei Islands can actually be scaled up significantly without any issue given they are islands and not connected with anything. I'd love something like Shattrath on Azuremyst with an Auchindoun on Bloodmyst.

[Scyth]

Midnight is either coming out end of January, as in immediately after Legion Remix or we get pre patch after Legion Remix ends and Midnight releases mid-February. It's 100% not coming out in Spring.

[micwini]

So what's your wishlist for patch zones? Currently mine:

- 12.1 - Draenei Islands with Exodar (smaller than Silvermoon, but with Alliance only areas), combined would make pretty big patch zone - Light focused patch? Avaloren forces arrival?
- 12.2 - Northern Lordareon - new small zone north from Plaguelands, with Stratholme docks as Tazavesh-like hub (maybe 2 Stratholme dungeons reworked for Season 3?), would be nice callback to Warcraft 3 when Arthas set sail from there to Northrend.

Not sure how to spread it out but: Draenei islands + revamped outland.

[Dracullus]

Not sure how to spread it out but: Draenei islands + revamped outland.

Daring today, aren't we.

[allegrian]

So you finaly find a way to be oppressed for this?
You can take druids for that. NEs+Worgens+Kul Tirans vs Taurens(2)+Trolls(2)

But druid is not an alliance centric class, Paladin is the Alliance Class like Shaman is the Horde class. Also, zandalari and trols are different models.

Imagine the alliance having more different race model options fos Shaman than the Horde.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Unless you want to make the shockingly powerful and well-supported argument that the Horde stands for state sovereignty and against fel magic and shadow, as compared to the Alliance with their man'ari and void elves.

The Alliance abandoned it, so the Light has chosen Quel'Thalas as its chosen people. Inspiring story of redemption, I'm telling you.

[Lorca]

But druid is not an alliance centric class, Paladin is the Alliance Class like Shaman is the Horde class. Also, zandalari and trols are different models.

Imagine the alliance having more different race model options fos Shaman than the Horde.

Well, the reason is quite simple: the horde is more diverse.

[NikolaiShade]

I think they should at 11.2.7 for story reasons also. Paladins will come to defend Sunwell, so for that more paladins can be introduced. Kul Tirans, Worgens and Night Elves for very least. Maybe trolls or gnomes (both)?

Unexpected mechagnome character that become paladin in the future.

And if the problem is really the racial mounts they could update horde and alliance paladin horses and give them as placeholders while they finalize the other mounts - iirc LF draenei got their talbuk in shadowlands, so there is a precedent.

[Rhlor]

There you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJEpG824g5Q (min 12:30)

"There's one (creature) at least in particular that is pretty buffled to be there, doesn't know quite what happened, but is there". She is talking about creatures.

What they seem to say is that Arny of Light is made up of many races and we will see something very alien

[blaatschaap]

All is forgiven about this Silvermoon situation if they give humans back Lordaeron in 12.1. Canonically no one has been living in the ruins of undercity since the fourth war right, so it wouldn't be too problematic in terms of population displacement. Just has to clean up that plague somehow. This isn't happening of course ,would be cool tho

[Xilurm]

So what's your wishlist for patch zones? Currently mine:

- 12.1 - Draenei Islands with Exodar (smaller than Silvermoon, but with Alliance only areas), combined would make pretty big patch zone - Light focused patch? Avaloren forces arrival?
- 12.2 - Northern Lordareon - new small zone north from Plaguelands, with Stratholme docks as Tazavesh-like hub (maybe 2 Stratholme dungeons reworked for Season 3?), would be nice callback to Warcraft 3 when Arthas set sail from there to Northrend.

Are people thinking we're going to get the Draenei Islands because the expansion is thematically similar to TBC?

[Nymrohd]

All is forgiven about this Silvermoon situation if they give humans back Lordaeron in 12.1. Canonically no one has been living in the ruins of undercity since the fourth war right, so it wouldn't be too problematic in terms of population displacement. Just has to clean up that plague somehow

? The Forsaken already took care of that did they not?

[Xilurm]

All is forgiven about this Silvermoon situation if they give humans back Lordaeron in 12.1. Canonically no one has been living in the ruins of undercity since the fourth war right, so it wouldn't be too problematic in terms of population displacement. Just has to clean up that plague somehow

Lordaeron belongs to the Forsaken. The point is to revamp the old cities but keep their allegiances the same.

[Nymrohd]

Are people thinking we're going to get the Draenei Islands because the expansion is thematically similar to TBC?

More because it seems crazy that they'd do a capital for only one faction

[Enrif]

So what's your wishlist for patch zones? Currently mine:

- 12.1 - Draenei Islands with Exodar (smaller than Silvermoon, but with Alliance only areas), combined would make pretty big patch zone - Light focused patch? Avaloren forces arrival?
- 12.2 - Northern Lordareon - new small zone north from Plaguelands, with Stratholme docks as Tazavesh-like hub (maybe 2 Stratholme dungeons reworked for Season 3?), would be nice callback to Warcraft 3 when Arthas set sail from there to Northrend.

i think the 12.2 zone will tie into TLT like 11.2 ties into MID. So a zone about Norhtrend and/or the Titans. I would do a wildcard pick, and say Strand of the Ancients. It is somewhat tied to Northrend and the Titans, and it was removed as a BG during BfA (which a lot of WSS tied back into the end of BfA)

IF we return to northern EK zone, i think it will be more as .5 or .7 patches

[Eeram]

What they seem to say is that Arny of Light is made up of many races and we will see something very alien

Nah, Listen to the whole thing She says "The Army of Light Responds of course but it goes to players as well and others"
implies three different "groups" So the army of light will infact be there We will be there and Creatures that you might not think would respond.
The one thats interesting is the last part about One that is pretty Baffled to be there.

[Pyrophax]

But druid is not an alliance centric class, Paladin is the Alliance Class like Shaman is the Horde class. Also, zandalari and trols are different models.

Imagine the alliance having more different race model options fos Shaman than the Horde.

Im totally fine by that. Shaman is core Horde race no matter how many races can access to it. Its just "feel" of Shaman is Horde.
Same with Paladins and Druids. Paladins was made with human paladins in mind, with all that CRUSADER and LIGHT thing.
Druids are just Night Elf fantasy. Too much Cenarius, green Dragonflight and roots, too much Ancients to be considered at least in part Horde.
Troll druids canonically are just what, Loa priest who can shapeshift into dinos? Where druid in that?

[blaatschaap]

? The Forsaken already took care of that did they not?

Oh right, I think I remember some quest with Calia where she makes a bubble for you or sth

[Enrif]

And if the problem is really the racial mounts they could update horde and alliance paladin horses and give them as placeholders while they finalize the other mounts - iirc LF draenei got their talbuk in shadowlands, so there is a precedent.

what if the panthera and bull mounts are paladin mounts?