Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Black Rider]

Is it too early to start speculation what happens after last titan?

[Limayria]

Dont elves aready have the most choices for hairstyles?

So? A lot of them are ugly AF and they're gonna be making more for NPCs anyway

[Zharikov]

Dont elves aready have the most choices for hairstyles?

Void elves have very few, and most of the blood elf ones are pretty old and not too stellar. My first wish would be more faces for the ladies though, they're all pretty same facey and lost their face variance with the update.

[Pheraz]

Is it too early to start speculation what happens after last titan?

I guess a full old world revamp xD
They have all assets ready, a lot of new "tech" from various expansions, and it sounds like it's the perfect moment then

[Daniri]

Dont elves aready have the most choices for hairstyles?

Humans do.

[allegrian]

Is it too early to start speculation what happens after last titan?

I expect a standalone, epilogue/bridge expansion after TLT before starting a new official saga if they ever do that again.

[Nymrohd]

I expect a standalone, epilogue/bridge expansion after TLT before starting a new official saga if they ever do that again.

I do think a palette cleanser with more localized threats would be better than diving into another end of the world scenario or going immediately to Avaloren.

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Is it too early to start speculation what happens after last titan?

While story wise we cannot really know, what we can expect is significant changes to how classes work. At that point, bloat will be inevitable (and imo bloat from procs is just as bad if not worse than action bar bloat). And after having us spent 5+ years with Hero Talents, will they just take them back?

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Imo shared player services hub in Silvermoon is still a bad idea. You just know a lot of rabid horde players are going to hassle alliance players with emotes etc constantly. As if those alliance players asked for their great vault, bank, AH, crafting tables to be in horde territory. I also think the KoS thing needs to change for WM off at least

Even at the peak of the faction hate in BfA I don't think that would happen.

[Lady Atia]

Imo shared player services hub in Silvermoon is still a bad idea. You just know a lot of rabid horde players are going to hassle alliance players with emotes etc constantly. As if those alliance players asked for their great vault, bank, AH, crafting tables to be in horde territory. I also think the KoS thing needs to change for WM off at least

I was like wtf are you talking about .... but than I remembered the Asmongold lunatics who /spit on people who used store mounts, so I guess there are some weird idiots out there lol.

But lets be real, I honestly doubt any sane person would do that in 2025, if anything, it's annoying we still cant crossfaction q for stuff like lfr etc. People fucking don't care for the dumb faction conflict anymore and that's good lol.

[Nymrohd]

Idk why you're telling people how they should feel. I would be pretty annoyed and upset if saw this happening to Darnassus, or Stormwind. And nothing would change that fact.

I am not telling you how to feel. In the same way that you thought my concerns about how this would affect my gameplay are not grounded, I share that about how this will affect your immersion. The presence of players does not help with immersion whatever their faction. For every player who tries to fit in with the environment around them you have a dozen who zoom around on their massive mounts and wear the craziest things available. I understand where you are coming from but ultimately I don't think an Alliance character will be more disruptive than most of the Horde players. If you are in an RP realm, I guess the guilds there should set up some rules though.

[Lady Atia]

I am not telling you how to feel. In the same way that you thought my concerns about how this would affect my gameplay are not grounded, I share that about how this will affect your immersion. The presence of players does not help with immersion whatever their faction. For every player who tries to fit in with the environment around them you have a dozen who zoom around on their massive mounts and wear the craziest things available. I understand where you are coming from but ultimately I don't think an Alliance character will be more disruptive than most of the Horde players. If you are in an RP realm, I guess the guilds there should set up some rules though.

Yeah, because gatekeeping RP worked so well in the past. I actually deleted my first RP character 'cause of the "rp police" in the starting zone telling people what to do lol.

[The-Shan]

Dont elves aready have the most choices for hairstyles?

they do not, I don't think at least. Blood Elves have 24-25 and humans have like, 35'ish, dwarves have 26, draenei have 24, void elves have 11 (Though those 11 hairstyles get altered heavily by enabling tentacles, for what thats worth)|

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[blaatschaap]

Even at the peak of the faction hate in BfA I don't think that would happen.

I mean, you can think that, but I think that would be really naive tbh. It's hard to imagine any serious hypotheticals given BfA's theme would specifically prevent blizzard from putting Alliance and Horde in the same hub. But let's say, after the Fourth War was over, and they hadn't taken us to Shadowlands but to some kind of threat in the Eastern Kingdoms, where they made horde and alliance share Stormwind as an expansion hub. You think Night elves, who took refuge from the War of Thorns in Stormwind, wouldn't be letting horde players constantly know their disgust of them if they saw Hordies in say the Park district or sth?

I was like wtf are you talking about .... but than I remembered the Asmongold lunatics who /spit on people who used store mounts, so I guess there are some weird idiots out there lol.

But lets be real, I honestly doubt any sane person would do that in 2025, if anything, it's annoying we still cant crossfaction q for stuff like lfr etc. People fucking don't care for the dumb faction conflict anymore and that's good lol.

You know how many insane people play this game? Ever read the official forums? Wowhead comments? Even on this site, people say absolutely bat shit things under frontpage news items. The fact Asmongold even has an audience is proof there's no shortage of people with some serious problems

[Nymrohd]

I mean, you can think that, but I think that would be really naive tbh. It's hard to imagine any serious hypotheticals given BfA's theme would specifically prevent blizzard from putting Alliance and Horde in the same hub. But let's say, after the Fourth War was over, and they hadn't taken us to Shadowlands but to some kind of threat in the Eastern Kingdoms, where they made horde and alliance share Stormwind as an expansion hub. You think Night elves, who took refuge from the War of Thorns in Stormwind, wouldn't be letting horde players constantly know their disgust of them if they saw Hordies in say the Park district or sth?

I was right next to Horde players in Uldum during N'zoth Assaults, weeks after Sylvanas had dumped them and I don't remember a single rude emote action of any type. I won't say it is impossible it will happen. But I just doubt it will happen with any significance.

As for Horde showing up in Stormwind, I am in a Argent Dawn realm, one of the SW guard guilds would probably try to detain the Horde player and ask what business they have there.

Also I think Blizzard has pruned most emotes that could be rude from the game by now. I miss spit, I used it on specific NPCs occasionally.

[blaatschaap]

I was right next to Horde players in Uldum during N'zoth Assaults

I didn't realize Uldum was an Alliance stronghold, my bad. Surely you understand there is a difference between some neutral zone where you are going from quest to quest, mostly engaging in combat, and a capital city where you actually have pretty much 100% downtime to see what folks are around? I really don't think you've seriously thought all this through tbh

[Nymrohd]

I didn't realize Uldum was an Alliance stronghold, my bad.

I am just saying, we were in a sanctuary right next to each other just after the climax of the faction war. And I did not see that happen.

[blaatschaap]

I am just saying, we were in a sanctuary right next to each other just after the climax of the faction war. And I did not see that happen.

I've edited my post to clarify why I think the situations aren't even remotely comparable. Also, I don't think Uldum had any sanctuary spaces, I pretty sure I remember world pvping right inside the Ramkahen inn.

[Nymrohd]

I've edited my post to clarify why I think the situations aren't even remotely comparable. Also, I don't think Uldum had any sanctuary spaces, I pretty sure I remember world pvping right inside the Ramkahen inn.

Oh I guess I just turned WM off in the final season because it didn't make much lore sense anymore.

Did you see it happening in Amirdrassil?

[ImTheMizAwesome]

Do they mean with "No new customisation options planned for the wider races at Midnight launch." That void elves and maybe blood elves are getting them but the rest not?

Fucking embarassing, i bet i will still won't be able to pick blue eyes for my frostwolf mag'har orc or necklaces that female body model has ported to male model.. 5 minutes of work, but hasn't happened for years.

[Nymrohd]

Fucking embarassing, i bet i will still won't be able to pick blue eyes for my frostwolf mag'har orc or necklaces that female body model has ported to male model.. 5 minutes of work, but hasn't happened for years.

I can't believe they will do no customization at all for a new expac, maybe they just didn't have it in their press material.

[micwini]

Qualthalas revamped in 12.0
Outland + Draenei isles revamped in 12.X
Northrend revamped in 13.0
EK + Kalimdor in 14.0+15.0

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