Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Al Gorefiend]

if they're giving trolls the Amani hairstyles, the high elves should get the venthyr hairstyles. Venthyr uses a bunch of human & belf hairstyles but also have a bunch of unique sets. So they should be interchangeable.

Trolls have maybe half the amount of hair styles elves do, this is fine.

[blaatschaap]

Re: outland, guys this is the world soul saga. There's no way they are doing anything with outland the next three years. K'aresh was an asspull, but at least they did something with the idea that it had a world soul... lol

Except it doesn't matter for the behaviour you claim.

Not sure why I bother even engaging further if you are just going to argue disingenuously, but I guess I am just masochistic. Have you not seen endless Horde players complaining Alliance are even allowed in a small part of Silvermoon? In fact, they've been complaining about that possibility since last year when we didn't even know for sure Silvermoon would be the shared hub city. Even in this very thread most people speculated they'd either need to bite the bullet and make silvermoon a neutral city (given metzen's 'unify the elven tribes' language) or avoid using silvermoon as the hub city somehow, which seemed implausible obviously. This schizophrenic approach they have taken damages both the narrative side of and the gameplay side of things imo.

[Ersula]

Trolls have maybe half the amount of hair styles elves do, this is fine.

surely people have pointed out while the high elf races have more hair styles, trolls & the other races have way more overall customization options

[Nymrohd]

Too bad they went with stupid time travel plot in WoD. Instead it could be some ultra powerful magic world soul something something thingy to restore Outland back to Draenor.

This way Draenor would become living part of the world where we could return any time, just like we sometimes get quests in Pandaria or Kalimdor. Nowadays it's just abandoned world that Blizzard really doesn't want to touch.

Back when we were more free to speculate about next expacs I thought it would be cool if Yrel found a way (maybe some Apexis tech) to bring her Draenor to our universe to save it then we would have a new Outland that was parts of Old Outland and Draenor combined. Dark Portal turns golden and the Shining Crusade begins.

[Lady Atia]

Too bad they went with stupid time travel plot in WoD. Instead it could be some ultra powerful magic world soul something something thingy to restore Outland back to Draenor.

This way Draenor would become living part of the world where we could return any time, just like we sometimes get quests in Pandaria or Kalimdor. Nowadays it's just abandoned world that Blizzard really doesn't want to touch.

That was basically the original plan - Garrosh getting a bronze artifact horn that basically turns the time back and revives the Warlords.

And the "Draenor is cut off" storyline with Nazi Yrel came from Afrasiabi .... so maybe they gonna retcon that aswell down the line. Hopefully.

[Nymrohd]

Trolls have maybe half the amount of hair styles elves do, this is fine.

I just want beards

And I was very much preoccupied with the Silvermoon debacle but damn the Amani look bad to me. Even if they do have better customizations for noses, doesn't help that most of their npcs look like orcs.

[blaatschaap]

Are there any canonically bearded trolls actually? I can't think of any.

edit: wait vol'jin had a beard, didn't he?

[Al Gorefiend]

surely people have pointed out while the high elf races have more hair styles, trolls & the other races have way more overall customization options

How so? Male trolls have sameface from the WoD days. No facial hair?

[Nymrohd]

Are there any canonically bearded trolls actually? I can't think of any.

edit: wait vol'jin had a beard, didn't he?

Vol'jin and Zabra Hexx both have beards. And I think there are some trolls with custom models and they have beards (the Sand troll general in Zandalar for instance)

[Al Gorefiend]

Are there any canonically bearded trolls actually? I can't think of any.

edit: wait vol'jin had a beard, didn't he?

That guy they killed off in broken shore cinematic. Forgot his name, been so long since anything darkspear was relevant, going on that decade mark again.

Crazy how long darkspear wait for anything

[Jaggler]

That guy they killed off in broken shore cinematic. Forgot his name

Couldn't have been important, considering he got killed off by some random Felguard.

[Al Gorefiend]

Couldn't have been important, considering he got killed off by some random Felguard.

Steve Danuser can't goon to a craggy old blue troll

[allegrian]

I think that leveling itself could end at TLT. Right now, those 10 extra levels each expansion mean nothing, as the most important thing is to just finish the main story and improve ilvl. In TLT we will reach level 100, and then they may remove levels or make them work like profession levels, where the levels are related to each expansion.

[Xilurm]

I don't see Yrel appearing until we enter the Multiverse Saga.

[blaatschaap]

Multiverse Saga.

don't put that evil on us.

[Nymrohd]

I don't see Yrel appearing until we enter the Multiverse Saga.

I can see Y'rel and AU X'era being the trigger that gets the Arathi to invade us. Though I can also see a contingent of Hallowfall Arathi abandoning us in disgust for working with the Void and sailing away during S2 of Midnight only for an entire fleet to appear in the 14.0 pre-patch event.

[Lady Atia]

Steve Danuser can't goon to a craggy old blue troll

Na, Legion was already Afrasiabi's doing, so you can thank him for that aswell. Leave Danuser alone, guy atleast saved Sylvanas in Shadowlands.

[Dvalin]

There was this datamined bit of dialogue with Ve'nari calling us 'the Maw-Walker'. Does anybody know where to find this audio-bit (on YouTube or a transcript)? Because I don't think it's in-game.

[Joshuaj]

"It was this guys doing" "No it was this guys doing"

1. I don't believe that hot shit for a minute.

And 2. Idgaf who conceptualized what. Executions matter, and both BFA and SL sucked narratively.

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There was this datamined bit of dialogue with Ve'nari calling us 'the Maw-Walker'. Does anybody know where to find this audio-bit (on YouTube or a transcript)? Because I don't think it's in-game.

Prolly in the bin with most of the 7.3 Aman'Thul voice lines. Though maybe I'm wrong.

[Dvalin]

"It was this guys doing" "No it was this guys doing"

1. I don't believe that hot shit for a minute.

And 2. Idgaf who conceptualized what. Executions matter, and both BFA and SL sucked narratively.

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Prolly in the bin with most of the 7.3 Aman'Thul voice lines. Though maybe I'm wrong.

Then it would be the only bit of datamined 11.2 voicelines to not be in the game, as everything told by Alleria is in-game.

EDIT: Found it; https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dJOhJE_dGvQ

I guess they forgot to include a trigger for this voiceline.