Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Raetary]

What even is a human house? The SW, Northrend, Gilnean and Kul Tiran styles are all Human styles.

Stormwind.

If it were any other style, they'd specify.

[Jaggler]

you can have 1 house per faction

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it's a game bro. the "hatred" is not real

Thank you!

[Graden]

omg high elf houses in alliance neighbourhood. I could care less about silvermoon now xD (tali interview)

Wait, for real?

[Nymrohd]

Wait, for real?

Alongside orc houses. And night elf houses in Durotar.

[Jaggler]

Wait, for real?

You can have Human, Orc, Belf and Nelf exteriors for your houses and they can be placed wherever you want.

[Pheraz]

Wait, for real?

yes

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alliance in horde zones and vice versa

[Limayria]

i guess there was no reason for alliance player to help in the defense of the sunwell in TBC, or helping Thrall in Cata, or helping the Horde in deposing Garrosh, or saving any horde character in legion, or fighting of G'Huun in Nazmir, or now helping the sunwell again.

can you get any new ideas besides your faction fetish?

I mean the alliance didn't want to dispose garrosh, they were openly involved in a war against the horde. And then conquered the horde capital... And just left the horde completely intact lol

[Pyrophax]

That is a really interesting possibility that I hadn't thought of.

Assuming people like Faerin Lothar are half-elves, wouldn't that require that one of her parents was a High Elf? Or dies the High Elven DNA endure in a bloodline through the ages, to the degree that is still effectively takes up 50% of it several thousands of years later?

Either way, any High Elves who did come along build the new Arathi Empire should still be alive, surely? It would be pretty neat if they returned and were aghast to see Quel'Thalas siding with orcs and the undead. Obviously, they wouldn't know much about the Alliance but they would have memories of the original humans and dwarves of the EK.

They didn't met orcs yet to be upset about it.
By Forsaken it could, but they will see only dead Lordaeronian humans that ally with blood elves. They don't know about any story after like 4-7k years ago?

[Raetary]

Not really a surprise.

It's the only way to make up for the limited house themes available (as of yet), and to ensure players in cross faction guilds aren't cut off from customization options. (Aside from the nighborhood in on itself)

[Enrif]

They didn't met orcs yet to be upset about it.
By Forsaken it could, but they will see only dead Lordaeronian humans that ally with blood elves. They don't know about any story after like 4-7k years ago?

Trolls are part of the horde too, and trolls should be known to the Arathi, given the whole Humans and High Elves joining hands to defeat the forest trolls, likely being a origin story for them. So, you have undead, and two types of trolls (three/four with Haranir/amani).

We also have absolutly no idea what other races the Arathi might know of. Another tauren tribe? other titanforged races? eredar from the legion invasion?

[Joshuaj]

Okay, so you might be able to have a Nelf house in a Horde Neighborhood

[blaatschaap]

See im not the only one. I knew someone said that this was said in an interview.

I should clarify this, I was also going off second hand of what someone else claimed in this thread, so you're going to need to go further back to trace where this information came from :/

[Jodmos]

I should clarify this, I was also going off second hand of what someone else claimed in this thread, so you're going to need to go further back to trace where this information came from :/

It was mentioned in the very first rundown of the expansion on the site. No detail about what Simplify would mean though.

https://www.mmo-champion.com/content...r-and-Features

[Sondrelk]

Honestly, I don't see the issue with being able to freely choose what kind of hosue you want. Just like transmog, the benefits far outweigh the potential scenario of everyone looking terrible. Mostly because players generally don't choose to run around in terrible mogs, or in the case of houses, intentionally troll by making it look terrible.

[Holdodlig]

factions are the heart and soul of this game and losing the conflict has watered down the setting. people have shown more passion for discussing the faction distribution in silvermoon than for the story of the past 3 expansions

I strongly disagree that faction by themselves are the heart of the game as we've seen plenty of MMOs with that same faction feature (Warhammer, Aion, Wildstar) and they all failed compared to Warcraft. Also, it's funny enough that one of the things that made people come back to the game was actually the end of most factions' limitations back in DF (also the expansion just brought a lot of new systems so it was a good gameplay experience despite the average lore).

I do agree tho that the cultural identity of each race was a major element in term of lore. And while I now despise those limitations, I'd say that the fact some classes were restricted to some races helped a lot of people to play a tauren, an orc or a dwarf instead of a human (and later an elf). And the game should keep focusing on those lore elements instead of pushing the same human / elf heroes over and over.

Most people stopped following the lore when the orcs became soft, when the trolls became civilized and when the undead stopped in their attempts of reducing all living creatures into undead nightmares.

I'd say that the current concept of factions is outdated. Players should be free to move wherever they want. The game should stop focusing on big factions and go back where it really shined, with small groups fighting each other. That's an exemple I like to give, but in Vanilla you don't really have faction lore of faction war :
-Just in Stormwind, you've got Goldshire's troups who struggles against gnolls, murlocs, kobolds and defias.
-In Westfall, you've got the People's Militia who fights against the Defias threat.
-Redridge is once again Stormwind's army vs the Blackrock.
-Duskwood is Night Watch vs undeads and worgens.
-Last but not least, Stranglethorn is Kurzen's deserters vs Kurzen's troups, trolls and the local wildlife.

That's something we've had in BFA and somehow in Shadowlands (but Shadowlands' covenants felt so out of lore that it was hard to even care about them) with Kul Tiras' waterspeakers, inquisitors, pirates or army.

[Lady Atia]

Okay, so you might be able to have a Nelf house in a Horde Neighborhood

Not, might, you can, and that's good.

[Holdodlig]

Honestly, I don't see the issue with being able to freely choose what kind of hosue you want. Just like transmog, the benefits far outweigh the potential scenario of everyone looking terrible. Mostly because players generally don't choose to run around in terrible mogs, or in the case of houses, intentionally troll by making it look terrible.

Sadly this. But if you limit your game just because some people are terrible and dumbs you won't go far.

[Xilurm]

It's a good thing you can set limits though.

[Daniri]

Everything about actually creating the house is unbelievably great, but the design ramifications of neighborhoods keeps creating friction for me. And makes the barriers to private neighborhoods even more grating. The worst part is that, in the end, there's almost no chance neighborhoods will achieve their primary goal of fostering community.

[Thinkpad]

Hoping we get Draenie exteriors.

Not a huge fan of the race but always loved their alien futuristic naaru architecture.

Gonna go for a techy alien vibe with Draenie, gnome and ethereal interior stuff as much as I can to trigger the high fantasy purists.