Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Bwgmon]

Don't think we'll get Amani as an AR. Only the extra customization for Darkspear to look like Amani, not unlike the Eredar ones for Draenei.

I have my fingers crossed for Amani as an AR, but I'll be satisfied if we finally, fucking finally, get the option to give trolls green skin. It's still insane to me that they made a Farakki skintone available before Revantusk/Amani.

[Viridiel]

It will not be 4 BE organizations.
I bet it will be Blood Elves, Army of the Light, Void Elves and somehow High Elves aka Silver Covenant.

That would be a real shame. The other times they've done this sort of thing, it's been as a chance to do some worldbuilding and flesh out the interactions between the organisations or loyalties in an area (Aldor/Scryer, Severed Threads, Undermine Cartels).

I'm pretty sure we already know the void elves are the Voidstorm renown, so I don't think them also getting a Silvermoon sub-faction as well makes sense.

[Enrif]

It will not be 4 BE organizations.
I bet it will be Blood Elves, Army of the Light, Void Elves and somehow High Elves aka Silver Covenant.

i don't think the Army of the Light will be part of that. Rather another elf group. I could see Nightborne

[Pyrophax]

That would be a real shame. The other times they've done this sort of thing, it's been as a chance to do some worldbuilding and flesh out the interactions between the organisations or loyalties in an area (Aldor/Scryer, Severed Threads, Undermine Cartels).

I'm pretty sure we already know the void elves are the Voidstorm renown, so I don't think them also getting a Silvermoon sub-faction as well makes sense.

Isn't Voidstorm separated between Horde and Alliance bases? How can they be 1 renown for both? I think it will be something akin some Domaar party akin Undying Army from Maldraxxus.

[Graden]

It will not be 4 BE organizations.
I bet it will be Blood Elves, Army of the Light, Void Elves and somehow High Elves aka Silver Covenant.

Aren’t they supposed to be Silvermoon-related factions? I just can’t see the Blood Elves giving the Silver Covenant any say in things, least of all the Void Elves.

[Enrif]

That would be a real shame. The other times they've done this sort of thing, it's been as a chance to do some worldbuilding and flesh out the interactions between the organisations or loyalties in an area (Aldor/Scryer, Severed Threads, Undermine Cartels).

I'm pretty sure we already know the void elves are the Voidstorm renown, so I don't think them also getting a Silvermoon sub-faction as well makes sense.

Aren’t they supposed to be Silvermoon-related factions? I just can’t see the Blood Elves giving the Silver Covenant any say in things, least of all the Void Elves.

i think if it would be just silvermoon groups (blood knights, farstriders, magisters) it would show an extreme problem in their own unity. Which shouldn't be a thing.

If it is with those different elven groups, yeah, it makes sense there is friction.

[Graden]

i think if it would be just silvermoon groups (blood knights, farstriders, magisters) it would show an extreme problem in their own unity. Which shouldn't be a thing.

If it is with those different elven groups, yeah, it makes sense there is friction.

Yeah, I guess. They did talk about "uniting the elven tribes" after all. So it could be that.

[Viridiel]

Isn't Voidstorm separated between Horde and Alliance bases? How can they be 1 renown for both? I think it will be something akin some Domaar party akin Undying Army from Maldraxxus.

That's the battleground which is physically located in Voidstorm. We were told that the renown event in Voidstorm will be helping the void elves maintain their machines.

Quel'thalas is the only one without little to no information about its renown. I'm pretty certain it'll be blood elves with four notoriety sub-factions. The raid renown will be either Army of the Light or the united elven front.

[Enrif]

The raid renown will be either Army of the Light or the united elven front.

There are three raids though. One of them not even tied to the void. Will it all be one raid renown, or will each have their own?

[The-Shan]

It will not be 4 BE organizations.
I bet it will be Blood Elves, Army of the Light, Void Elves and somehow High Elves aka Silver Covenant.

Didn't they say it was four BE organizations, or did I misread? Or are you just being pessimistic by presenting it as 3/4 alliance factions?

[Enrif]

Didn't they say it was four BE organizations, or did I misread? Or are you just being pessimistic by presenting it as 3/4 alliance factions?

it was said "four military groups"

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i just looked up the transcribed text from the panel

First up is Silver Moon Court. This is what you're going to see in Eversong Woods. You'll balance your reputation between the four different military groups within Silver Moon City. It's it's meant to sort of evoke the feelings of uh the Burning Crusade reputations. You all remember the Aldor Inscribers from there? Yes, I see some nodding of heads. Okay. Yeah. So, it'll feel a little bit like that. And each track has its own cosmetic rewards uh that come from it.

four different military groups within Silvermoon. Not four different blood elf military groups. Then also the part about the cosmetic rewards. If it would all be blood elf, it would look all very samy red. If they use the different elven factions, they can go with color variety, like we see with the goblin cartels, which each has its own color theme. Blood Elves for Red, High Elves for Blue, Void Elves for White (see new Umbric and Alleria), and Nightborne for Purple?

[The-Shan]

Do you guys think the Arathi will play a role in Haranar? If Haranar is in fact connected directly to Azj-Kahet as we think it might be (Given the root system that makes you fly asleep if you fly towards it) do you think the Arathi from Hallowfall will be the ones causing trouble there? Maybe they see it as their pathway up to Quel'thalas to participate "Renilash'?

Blizzard also said the light would be an antagonistic force there, or at least its less pleasant side will be shown.

[Enrif]

Do you guys think the Arathi will play a role in Haranar? If Haranar is in fact connected directly to Azj-Kahet as we think it might be (Given the root system that makes you fly asleep if you fly towards it) do you think the Arathi from Hallowfall will be the ones causing trouble there? Maybe they see it as their pathway up to Quel'thalas to participate "Renilash'?

i don't think so. I think the light issue in Haranar is another Beledar (Haranar, Beledar). I can't quite exactly remember, but the panel of Hallowfall back for TWW, mentioned something that the crystals is the source of the light that gives the plantlife its nourishment, or something like that?

[The-Shan]

i don't think so. I think the light issue in Haranar is another Beledar (Haranar, Beledar). I can't quite exactly remember, but the panel of Hallowfall back for TWW, mentioned something that the crystals is the source of the light that gives the plantlife its nourishment, or something like that?

Beledar was named by the Arathi though, why would they have named Haranar? It'd also be pretty odd if they added another underground zone with a crystal in the ceiling.

[Jaggler]

I would have assumed it's something like the cartels in Undermine or the Severed threads.

It would also be weird to have a silvermoon renown which cosists of 3 alliance groups. If anytrhing there are Nightborne missing in there instead of the Army of Light or the Silver Covenant.

[Enrif]

Beledar was named by the Arathi though, why would they have named Haranar?

I think it is odd that we have, once again, a zone with a light(/naaru) crystal, and has its ending with -ar. Haranar, Beledar, Exodar. Then also, the orc city in Nagrand, the area with a naaru ship is also called Garadar? This -ar ending is very consistent with naaru/light related stuff. Even those who don't worship the light yet, seem to have be influenced by it, that makes them name things like it.

It could be just a coincidence of course and -ar is a nice sounding ending the devs like to use. (Ogrimmar, Thrallmar, Durotar)

Edit:

Let's assume Harandar was the planed name for the rootlands in TWW. Then we would have Mereldar, under the Light of Beledar, next to the zone of Harandar? Yeah... that looks odd

[Jaggler]

Famous Naaru location Orgrimmar

[Enrif]

Famous Naaru location Orgrimmar

time for some orc paladins!

[The-Shan]

I think it is odd that we have, once again, a zone with a light(/naaru) crystal, and has its ending with -ar. Haranar, Beledar, Exodar. Then also, the orc city in Nagrand, the area with a naaru ship is also called Garadar? This -ar ending is very consistent with naaru/light related stuff. Even those who don't worship the light yet, seem to have be influenced by it, that makes them name things like it.

It could be just a coincidence of course and -ar is a nice sounding ending the devs like to use. (Ogrimmar, Thrallmar, Durotar)

You are confusing Beledar with Naaru spacecraft, when they are decisively different as far as we can tell. Still, maybe they do have a crystal. Still, the Arathi have to be involved in this expansion since they were conceived to fight in the battle of light and void, that's their purpose. I think it'd be a wasted opportunity not to see them as antagonists who NEED to circumvent Haranar to pass up into Quel'thalas, and if the Haranir don't want them to pass for whatever reason, or they need to destroy something to pass, then there is obvious conflict. I could see Faerin being involved in trying to diffuse the tension, and navigate the crisis. Yet you can't hold zealots and crusaders back, if the Haranir get in the way and plant their feet on the issue, they would have to fight.

Imagine them trying to take the Dawnbreaker up and through to the skies of Quel'thalas? That'd be dramatic, though it'd require some huge tunnels. I could definitely see them needing to damage some roots for passage. (These are the ones in the roof of Azj Kahet)

[Enrif]

You are confusing Beledar with Naaru spacecraft, when they are decisively different as far as we can tell. Still, maybe they do have a crystal. Still, the Arathi have to be involved in this expansion since they were conceived to fight in the battle of light and void, that's their purpose. I think it'd be a wasted opportunity not to see them as antagonists who NEED to circumvent Haranar to pass up into Quel'thalas, and if the Haranir don't want them to pass for whatever reason, or they need to destroy something to pass, then there is obvious conflict. I could see Faerin being involved in trying to diffuse the tension, and navigate the crisis. Yet you can't hold zealots and crusaders back, if the Haranir get in the way and plant their feet on the issue, they would have to fight.

Imagine them trying to take the Dawnbreaker up and through to the skies of Quel'thalas? That'd be dramatic, though it'd require some huge tunnels. I could definitely see them needing to damage some roots for passage. (These are the ones in the roof of Azj Kahet)
https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/scree...al/1168675.jpg

Quick question: WHY?

The Arathi have with the horde and alliance a great way to travel to Quel'thalas. ALSO, remember the cinematic? The army summoned at the Sunwell, and remember how the Arathi ended up in Hallowfall? Teleportation might be the trick.