Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nymrohd]

Btw, Devourer DH seems like a solid way to play a Night Warrior

[Khaza-R]

Btw, Devourer DH seems like a solid way to play a Night Warrior

Ironically they're the only class that can't use the Night Warrior eye customization. Hopefully something they change at some point

[SaintBigfoot]

The Ansurek short was good. Made me disappointed we didn't get an Earthen and Arathi one

Honestly all of them were really good so I hope they come back. The only ones I ever found boring were the DF ones.

We really should have gotten some for them.

Like, one showing the Earthen wearing down in regards to their purpose and broken systems.

And the Arathi winding up in Hallowfall and being beset by the Kobyss.

[Sondrelk]

We really should have gotten some for them.

Like, one showing the Earthen wearing down in regards to their purpose and broken systems.

And the Arathi winding up in Hallowfall and being beset by the Kobyss.

A video where we see the Arathi being teleported into Hallowfall would be a great idea. Would actually explain a lot about the Arathi that I think players struggled to figure out just from the quests.

[Nymrohd]

A video where we see the Arathi being teleported into Hallowfall would be a great idea. Would actually explain a lot about the Arathi that I think players struggled to figure out just from the quests.

Child Faerin bleeding with a lost eye and shattered arm carrying the last embers of the Light and Steelstrike digging her out and carrying her to safety as the Arathi cry and rejoice then panning up to show the Beledar would be amazing

[SaintBigfoot]

That would have ripped, and maybe shut some folks up about her.

Like there was so much telling and so little showing for good chunks of this expansion.

[Nymrohd]

That would have ripped, and maybe shut some folks up about her.

Like there was so much telling and so little showing for good chunks of this expansion.

Well it is also a lot of violence involving a child so maybe they could not do it if they wanted to.

[Raetary]

Well it is also a lot of violence involving a child so maybe they could not do it if they wanted to.

Eh, they could easily include her injuries without breaking the T rating.

It's not like they would need to animate her arm getting mangled, a visual implication would be enough.
Same for her eye.

[Khaza-R]

Eh, they could easily include her injuries without breaking the T rating.

It's not like they would need to animate her arm getting mangled, a visual implication would be enough.
Same for her eye.

Kargath cuts off his own arm. And Zul'jin has a elvish dagger 2 cm from eye in a trailer. They definitely could of eluded to it without showing anything.

The whole Lords of War was pretty violent compared to now.

[Nymrohd]

Eh, they could easily include her injuries without breaking the T rating.

It's not like they would need to animate her arm getting mangled, a visual implication would be enough.
Same for her eye.

Yeah I am sure there was a way to do it. And I think it would have established her character far better and given that she seems to be meant as a long term addition to the roster, she needed a better intro.

[Skildar]

I think it is why it would have made so much more sense to do this entire expansion in Kezan. Have Xal go to Kezan because she cannot get the Dark Heart to work and either needs the goblins or needs to get to Deathwing's original lair instead of having Alleria break it. Instead of coming up with yet another original island (in a location that should have been discovered ages ago or been part of other lore like Lei Shen's march to Uldum), actually deliver something we've always wanted to see and something that is linked to the story by lore already.

You've just reminded of how well Mist of Pandaria lore fit the existing story and how great they've managed to improve upon it with the Chronicles first book to bring even more depth to Lei Shen and his role. Khaz Algar missed the mark big time and ends up a big joke when none of the dwarves are brought along in the following patches, they've almost never mattered.

Many of my guildmates are very worried that Midnight will continue with the same treatment for the blood elves and the Amani and honestly it's kind of hard to expect otherwise. Yeah most likely the Amani will never be heard of again after release, we will probably have Orweyna tag along for the rest of the story but I'm not even sure Arathor will remain a meaningful character past 12.0. Boy Dagran was such a vital character for TWW and a resounding success that Blizzard will feel compelled to reiterate their feat of strength...

(fanfic time : they could give Dagran III character design some redemption by having Moira killed supposedly by a Wildhammer in an attempt to bring back war of the Three hammers and force boy Dagran to adopt a more aggressive stance on his responsibilities as leader of the Bronzebeard and DarkIron.)
Blizzard unfortunately dropped sidestory books a while ago but with Magni back as a proper ruler of the Bronzebeard, Blizzard should definitely go back to their roots and develop fantasy realm power struggles and drama, develop the stories of the lands we know, build the weaknesses and the character of the factions and realms (Gilneas with Greymane was a good example, retiring the man is such a stupid move, he was perfectly flawed for the role).

[Vakir]

You can do a lot with a T rating. It's whether they actually want to.

[Cheezits]

The Zuljin grandkids make me wonder if they will play it straight with no betrayals or deaths for once. We're in an interesting position where the woman holds the power to start with this time.

[Xilurm]

One of the biggest challenges with Silvermoon was making sure they captured the identity of Silvermoon. They had to be sure it didn't change with the upresing and modern fidelity.

They wanted to be sure Silvermoon kept all of the iconic elements while they are adding more to it.

It's good that so many devs over the years have botched up remasters and remakes that Blizzard knows that it's not something players like.

When you start the expansion, the first thing you'll do is step out of the light and join the battle we saw in the cinematic. We only saw the first set of people that arrive.

Makes me think of how WoD started.

Going forward, the goal is to balance room for faction conflict with broader storytelling that represents both cooperation and lingering rivalries.

They get it. They FINALLY get it. This is how it should've always been. Neither Garrosh's war or Sylvanas's war could ever make sense gameplay wise. This is how WoW started and how it should end, because it's a core theme of the game. End the war or start a new one or whatever but do it in a new game, not WoW.

[Thomir]

The Zuljin grandkids make me wonder if they will play it straight with no betrayals or deaths for once. We're in an interesting position where the woman holds the power to start with this time.

The male will be brash and eager to prove himself. The female will be wise and always trying to do the best for her people. The male will die after running into battle against the females advice.

[Chickat]

Great!

Even though I would like to see full continent revamps, such as all Eastern Kingdoms in one expansion pack and Kalimdor in another, this is better than no revamps.

Hopefully, the community enjoys exploring Warcraft roots, and we get more revamps after TLT.

I feel like third to half continents at a time is more plausible with the quality of a Quelthalas style revamp.

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IMO is the worst cinematic of WoW by far (not taking quality into account). Nothing happens. A totally irrelevant character is the protagonist. It's just boring.

My favourite is, curiously, because it was the worst expansion by a long shot, the SL cinematic. It has everything. Cool characters, action, mystery, a completely unexpected "Oh fuck" moment, you name it.



This is a very good summary of the interview with lots of interesting points. Who knows? We might get another revamped zone for Midnight.

I wonder if they would make an Arathi Highland's revamp to the Plaguelands. Going there with Arathor without updating it would be kind of stupid. Are The Ghostlands completely healed but the Plaguelands are stuck in time?

I would love for them to do nothing but revamp expansions for the next decade until everything but MoP and on is revamped. MoP is still fine imo, and looks and plays close enough to modern wow.

[Ersula]

Can we compile a list of data pointing toward the rest of TWW content? So far I've got

• Broker Cartel Reputation Voucher recipes
• The Cartel Leaders have unique models in game despite...not doing anything yet
• The Darkshire Game Mode

Anybody have anything else?

[Cheezits]

Can we compile a list of data pointing toward the rest of TWW content? So far I've got

• Broker Cartel Reputation Voucher recipes
• The Cartel Leaders have unique models in game despite...not doing anything yet
• The Darkshire Game Mode

Anybody have anything else?

Ve'nari's "all hail the maw walker" line (could be end of Ecological Succession) as well as the Gleeful Glamour: Ethereal unlocking with the cartel vouchers.

Also, the fact the Consortium is involved and yet no content involving them.

[Alanar]

The Zuljin grandkids make me wonder if they will play it straight with no betrayals or deaths for once. We're in an interesting position where the woman holds the power to start with this time.

Ye wanna bet that the brother or the male troll will perish along the way?

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The male will be brash and eager to prove himself. The female will be wise and always trying to do the best for her people. The male will die after running into battle against the females advice.

Well, seems others have the same idea.. sad how we all expect it already.

[milkmustache]

The male will be brash and eager to prove himself. The female will be wise and always trying to do the best for her people. The male will die after running into battle against the females advice.

I would love to see a sort of duo leader situation in a troll tribe. I'd at least prefer that over killing one.