Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[huth]

The original Empire of Arathor was 1 big unified empire that ended up splitting into the 7 Kingdoms we know today.

That works even less though as it precedes the kingdoms as independent entities.

[vindicator782]

No, I was referring to people who think MoP's raid spam and "questing... but Legion?!" are superior remix options because they can't get past some poor take on SL lore they heard from someone else.

Well, that is because it is a better remix option than farming fucking torghast again

[Local Ardenweald Faerie]

No, I was referring to people who think MoP's raid spam and "questing... but Legion?!" are superior remix options because they can't get past some poor take on SL lore they heard from someone else.

Two of us...

two of us.

[Scyth]

So what I'm getting from the limited information we have so far is the Haranir went underground and just left Azeroth to burn all this time?

[Xilurm]

They should add three new achievements to every expansion, with fun rewards (title? backpack? furniture?)

1- Complete campaign.
2- Complete campaign with no flying mounts.
3- Complete campaign with NO mounts.

To make it so you don't accidentally do it, they would just unlearn your flying. And if flying is needed for a quest they would add a taxi.

Thoughts?

Just give me an option to disable flying mounts in a heroic world tier kind of feature and I'll be happy. Oh and also make sure the flying paths work, because if you've tried using one in K'aresh... hoo boi. They just fly through terrain like they don't even care.

[Joshuaj]

So, it's confirmed.

Aln'hara is just what the Haranir call Azeroth.

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Meaning, it's most likely that the Titans stole her from her cradle and built the worldcore around her. The question is, does this affect much of anything regarding the Progenitors and their stuff? Does is aid the retcon arguments? Does it not mean much of anything? I'm uncertain.

[Limayria]

I'm personally excited for BFA remix with islands lmao

[Hearthfinder]

It’s just The Hinterlands/Aerie Peak

The icon is called achievement_zone_zulaman...

[Joshuaj]

The icon is called achievement_zone_zulaman...

It's funny, cause the map does not show Zul'Aman at all...

It shows the Lordaeron region

[Xilurm]

I'm watching a stream right now and there's this Haranir NPC that talks about Teldrassil a lot. Not sure if I understand but since all the world tree roots coalesce there, somehow the fire made it all the way there and they can see it?

[Thomir]

I'm watching a stream right now and there's this Haranir NPC that talks about Teldrassil a lot. Not sure if I understand but since all the world tree roots coalesce there, somehow the fire made it all the way there and they can see it?

Yes, it's even still burning.

[Hearthfinder]

It's funny, cause the map does not show Zul'Aman at all...

It shows the Lordaeron region

Yeah but the peak in question seems to kind of be protruding from beyond the pinetree forests beyond Zul'Aman, so it kinda makes sense. The size seems a little extreme though.

[huth]

Yeah but the peak in question seems to kind of be protruding from beyond the pinetree forests beyond Zul'Aman, so it kinda makes sense. The size seems a little extreme though.

Frankly, the more i look at it the more issues i find with it. If an artist did this, they definitely didn't bother checking any maps of the area.

[Nymrohd]

"Due to performance concerns, we’ve had to disallow decorations with lights from being used outside. We’re going to spend some time trying to optimize exterior light decorations and hope to re-enable them post-launch."

sad

Damn At Winter Veil I fully intended my plot to look like Martha May decorated it with her christmas bulb gun.

[Jaggler]

So Liadrin goes with us to Zul'aman and Halduron travels to Harandar, that leaves one guy for Voidstorm.

[Limayria]

So Liadrin goes with us to Zul'aman and Halduron travels to Harandar, that leaves one guy for Voidstorm.

Probably rommath to help push the faction conflict story line there

[Nymrohd]

Probably rommath to help push the faction conflict story line there

We know Umbric is also going to the Voidstorm so that checks out.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Okay, so my take:


After the home of the star children sunders (The Sundering)
and the fallen queen turns arrows against brothers. (Feels like a reference about Aszhara making the Borthers Stormrage turn against each other)
After the defeat of the tusked ones is complete, (Defeat of the Amani in the EK)
and the rise of the united kingdoms to compete. (Creation of the Alliance of the
After people from a shattered world are brought (Orcish Invasion)
and with them many wars are fought.
After the freezing cold of the north demise (WotLK)
and spirits from shattered prisons arise. (Illidari)
After the green-flamed army fall (Legion)
and the great flying beasts return to their hall (Dragons)
A time will come when the lightless ones return,(Return of the Void, Xal'atath)
A throne of darkness for her own will one yearn. (yeap)
She will blanket the world in shadow.
The Goddess’s song is one of great harrow.
To her dire song, all must give their heed,
stand together, or darkness will forever take seed. (these last 4 really just MN)

[allegrian]

I think that TWW proves my point.

Siren Isle already existed, it was just repurposed. We all know that K'aresh was not originally planned for TWW and it has reused assets (Tazavesh). The Rootlands ends up being Harandar in Midnight, without any doubt suffering massive changes in the process.

I love TWW but I'm not blind. Blizzard changed the plan and it suffered for it, and probably Midnight will benefit. The Voidstorm will most likely have many assets from K'aresh. Harandar has suffered massive changes but at the same time they have plenty to work with.

Guess that we'll have to wait, but a Troll major patch in the Void expansion makes (presumably) no sense at all.

It sucks but we've been seeing this kind of pivoting mid expansion for so long now. I was excited for the world soul saga as blizz looked like they wanted to finally commit to a story and set of zones, but they still keep changing stuff in the same expansion.

Metzen said that he wanted to make TWW better by expanding it to 3 expansions, but it looks more like they just cancelled whatever TWW was really about and repurposed everything for a xalatath exposition expansion + goblins (who basically stole the show even if it was a filler story). The haranir role in TWW feels absolutely out of place and worthless, and their underground zone in midnight feels completely out of place.

[Vakir]

Welp, that whole prophecy/warning is very "we landed on the moon!" Nothing terribly helpful about it that isn't very old news.

I'll take it over whispers that may or may not even be true and are written to reverse engineer things to make the writing appear artificially clever. I do not miss Ilgy.