Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Valysar]

Rejoice, it's alpha day, Voidstorm is coming
(on the other hand I'm afraid of the area, it looks like a bigger K'aresh)

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I get this is the lore from the comic, but it does somehow contrast with the choice to add those heroes in the Scarlet Monastery which include dwarves, elves and half-elves

It’s pretty easy to say that the racist were just outvoted at the founding of the crusade when it still had all the would be ardent Dawn members in it.

The scarlets main thing was thinking every one was infected with the plague humans included so it could be that the actual racist members are a vast minority.

[Joshuaj]

I wonder what Phase 4 is gonna give us.

Exterior size customization or Nelf and Belf exterior customization? Hmm...

[allegrian]

Arator getting struck because he jumped infront of a sword is not Turalyon's fault lmfao...

It's also super lazy and uninspired writing lmao.

[Cheezits]

Rejoice, it's alpha day, Voidstorm is coming
(on the other hand I'm afraid of the area, it looks like a bigger K'aresh)

It's much nicer IMO, full of cool creatures it looks like and actually HAS delves, unlike the area reuse that was Karesh.

[Hitei]

Eh I think being racist jerks is quite a few steps behind thinking every one who isn’t them is infected with undeath and needs to be purged.

But ya the ride or die scarlets were already being assholes before the dread lord but they also had all of the stand up help the weak paladins along with them still using the light and doing all the same paladin things without being assholes about it.

The light isn’t what made them assholes before they were scarlets and it didn’t make them crazy after they were.

I agree, especially at the time, the implication wasn't that the Light was causing it. But it also did not care, at all, if they were assholes. Even in the Vanilla stages of the lore, the Light was completely indifferent to morality. It happily fueled the Scarlet's campaign just as much as it fueled anyone else's.

The point is that the dreadlord is largely irrelevant in this circumstance. The Scarlets are one in an ever increasing list of groups which are both Light users AND take the view that there is a single way to do things and anyone who disagrees or steps off the path is to be dealt with, stretching back long, long before the more recent cosmic framing of this mindset. "but there was a dreadlord hanging around the scarlets" isn't really much of a counter-point, because the dreadlord wasn't the source of the mindset, just a third party who fanned the flames.

The current issues with Paladins in Midnight, the implications about the Arathi Empire and fantacism of the Priory in TWW, the Light's disregard for their own in SL, the AU Draenei under Yrel in BfA, Xe'ra's attitude in Legion towards Illidan and Alleria, the High Arakkoa in WoD, the Scarlets in early expansions... Light users have a very consistent history of this behavior, if we ignore that they are on our side and so we are not the subject of their fury, even a lot of the friendly light-associated groups take a black and white stance, like the Blood Elves kicking the proto-void elves specifically out despite all the other groups within their kingdom that are experimenting with dangerous shit.

While obviously, "Light as a comsic force can nudge the zealous into blind fanaticism and violent zealotry " as a factual point is "new" (I would argue not really new at this point since we're eight years out from the Xe'ra situation and Thousand Years of War), it's not really a retcon, just new lore that is internally consistent with what we've seen for decades.

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I get this is the lore from the comic, but it does somehow contrast with the choice to add those heroes in the Scarlet Monastery which include dwarves, elves and half-elves

It was a pre-existing monastery prior to the Scarlet's founding. They converted it into an HQ. So really it's more the choice to not tear down the statues and maybe they just felt the history outweighed the human supremacy.

[Santandame]

Do we know if Xal, aka Knaifu, wants to destroy the world? I feel like I don't have her objectives clear, does she want to turn the world into void, destroy Azeroth, or what?

No one knows.

[Hearthfinder]

Is the Haranir root teleportation racial available anywhere yet? Would love to see what it looks like and the available locations.

Druid Haranir = Infinite natural movement.

[Nightshade711]

So, you remember the Hooded Supplier NPC that showed up in MoP remix and now in Legion Remix?

Apparently you can talk to him now? Someone just posted this to the wow subreddit, so I don't know how legit it is, I can't check Lemix while at work, but:



In case the image gets deleted, I'll quote the text:



I can't seem to find any mention of "Anakron" before, and we've seen Mind-Seekers pop up once before, with the Riddle of the Mind-Seekers that rewards the Riddler's Mind Worm mount.

Curious. New secret, I suppose.

Probably a new secret - I popped over on remix and can't see that text.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

The current issues with Paladins in Midnight, the implications about the Arathi Empire and fantacism of the Priory in TWW, the Light's disregard for their own in SL, the AU Draenei under Yrel in BfA, Xe'ra's attitude in Legion towards Illidan and Alleria, the High Arakkoa in WoD, the Scarlets in early expansions... Light users have a very consistent history of this behavior, if we ignore that they are on our side and so we are not the subject of their fury, even a lot of the friendly light-associated groups take a black and white stance, like the Blood Elves kicking the proto-void elves specifically out despite all the other groups within their kingdom that are experimenting with dangerous shit.

I don’t think the blood elves count given the framing in Midnight that it’s only really Liadrin whos light focused while lor'themar apparently doesn’t believe the sun well has any thing to do with the light some how.

But ya we do have a fair few groups who are light based that become fanatics, though they are pretty heavily out numbered by those who don’t given every player race but Humans/dwarfs/gnomes who share the church have there own light organizations that are fine being moderate.

Personally I think the light is just an easy power for fanatics to latch onto as if your that into your cause it seems easy to think that god would also be on your side and faith is all you need to access the light and baring alt Xera we don’t really have any of the light based groups try and convert others where say void fanatics do so all the time and the very nature of the void try’s to twist people to its cause.

The light blinded thing might change that but that could also be a arcane/light mixing problem given flame was apperantly mentioned and it would make some sense with the whole addictive part of the arcane.

[Santandame]

Yeah for all the talk that the Isle of Fangs is going to be the 12.0.7 zone, I think the news that Isle of Quel’danas being moved to its own map suggests that QD will in fact be the 12.0.7 zone. Quel’danas is far too small to be a .1 zone. It could very well be our Forbidden Reach styled zone with a continuation of the corrupted Sunwell story. I’m going with the prediction of the following for patch content:

12.0.7 - Isle of Quel’danas
12.1 - Isle of Fangs
12.2 - The White Lady

It makes more sense to me to save Lordaeron for its own expansion setting where you can utilise Gilneas, Silverpine, Tirisfal, Hillsbrad, Alterac, Arathi, Hinterlands and Plaguelands for the zones with Gilneas City and Capital City as faction capitals.

[THEORACLE64]

I wonder what Phase 4 is gonna give us.

Exterior size customization or Nelf and Belf exterior customization? Hmm...

Read.

[Local Ardenweald Faerie]

faerie snip
Read.

He's talking about updates to housing, which have not appeared on the roadmap at all.

[Alanar]

It's also super lazy and uninspired writing lmao.

Imagine this in the same animation style as the Stormgarde one with all the stiff animations.

This is hilarious already.

[Xilurm]

12.0.7 - Isle of Quel’danas
12.1 - Isle of Fangs
12.2 - The White Lady

What? Where is this coming from?

[Joshuaj]

Read.

Not sure what this is supposed to prove. It says nothing about housing outside of the first phase, and housing has done its own updates each phase.

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Honestly, your form of a "gotcha" honestly comes across as douchey tbh.

[Jaggler]

I don’t think the blood elves count given the framing in Midnight that it’s only really Liadrin whos light focused while lor'themar apparently doesn’t believe the sun well has any thing to do with the light some how.

That's not what he says.

Turalyon says the Sunwell is the Light. Lor'themar says that it is not. That is not saying that the Sunwell has nothing to do with the light.

[Garrac]

No one knows.

I dunno man, nowadays very important lore tends to drop in a random quest part of a long questchain, you never know.

[Vakir]

What? Where is this coming from?

Going to the moon for the Worldsoul Saga would feel awkwardly on the nose for what's clearly a pivot inspired by Endwalker. I dunno what reason there would even be.

Dimensius already was a poor man's Zodiark, cool as the intermission was.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

That's not what he says.

Turalyon says the Sunwell is the Light. Lor'themar says that it is not. That is not saying that the Sunwell has nothing to do with the light.

“Your fount was blessed by the heart of a Naaru. It is one in the same”

“I suggest you hold your tongue high exarch. That “fount” you so blithely pretend to understand predates the existence of human civilization”

It’s a pretty blatant dismissal of the sunwells light ties, lor'themar clearly isn’t a light follower.

Also weird to say it predates human civilization when the humans were already set up before the high elfs even got to the EK.