Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Joshuaj]

Very possible, yup!

Confirmed for the new phase: Increased house budgets, and house leveling. Can't go past 2 tho which is the current issue. Gonna assume it'll be fixed either once Beta releases or sometime during the phase.

[Trad skeleton]

I posted this a few hundred pages back but I missed the PTR housing window so I'm just going to ask again, sorry for being annoying.

There's furniture gated behind doing 100 class hall missions of each Legion order hall. Did anyone manage to copy over characters or anything of the sort to see if it's retroactive or is this something we need to do, 1-100, once the 11.2.7 patch hits live servers?

[Joshuaj]

All I got was my Paladin altar replica lmao

[Marlamin]

I posted this a few hundred pages back but I missed the PTR housing window so I'm just going to ask again, sorry for being annoying.

There's furniture gated behind doing 100 class hall missions of each Legion order hall. Did anyone manage to copy over characters or anything of the sort to see if it's retroactive or is this something we need to do, 1-100, once the 11.2.7 patch hits live servers?

That is no longer a thing, that got changed to recruiting "20 troops" last Alpha build.

[Joshuaj]

*Awaits the build*

[Trad skeleton]

That is no longer a thing, that got changed to recruiting "20 troops" last Alpha build.

Oh damn, that's awesome. Thank you.

[Viridiel]

Zone events are always tricky though. There are two factors that need balancing: When everyone plays them, and when nobody plays them. And designing it to work for both seems like it might be impossible. We see this when you compare zone events like the Nazjatar one and the newer ones. You either get spectacle that looks impressive and gives a sense of community. Or you get ones that actually feel playable outside those moments.

World events are lame; it's world content so there's zero difficulty and it just turns into a lag fest where you wait for loot

I think by the end the soup event functioned almost perfectly. Changes were made so you could do it very comfortably by yourself, or with 50 people. The main issue for me was that doing it by yourself was really boring and didn't have any of the magic of doing it with dozens. I don't really have a solution for that... maybe making the objectives it spawns for fewer players more interactive in an actually engaging way, but it's hard to achieve that without making the "engaging" objective tedious and frustrating. Maybe things like the Candy Crush minigame? Bring back Peggle!!!

I play on OCE so lag isn't really much of an issue for me, but yeah that does present an obvious challenge. I actually prefer appointment mechanics to be individualised, so things like profession cooldowns (which I would engage with a lot more if I had a Weakaura to tell me when they're up... which won't be possible in Midnight unless someone builds an addon specifically to do it), but it's hard to beat the social experience the soup event gave us.

[justwatching]

Increasing the interior decor budget is very nice. Hopefully they can increase the exterior budget as well.

[doledippers]

Increasing the interior decor budget is very nice. Hopefully they can increase the exterior budget as well.

worth noting the listed budget increases are only for a level 5 house too , which isnt the max. so itll go alot higher than this (probably)

[Joshuaj]

Y'all hid the housing discord from me, but I found it!

[Runick]

Some of the new icons are listed as "raidwarlockulatek". Taken together with the Isle of Fangs (forget what they renamed it to) it's looking like a snake loa is indeed on the menu.

And if there's an Ula'tek raid, might that indicate it as a 12.1 zone rather than minor patch content?

[Imotbh]

I think it will be the case yeah. The island was renamed to Atal'Utek.

Ula-Tek wasn't canon before so I'm wondering if they'll make it straight-up canon or just play on the fact that trolls back then believed it was a loa, while it might have actually been Kith'ix tricking them (my guess is that the island is his resting place).

[Joshuaj]

Some of the new icons are listed as "raidwarlockulatek". Taken together with the Isle of Fangs (forget what they renamed it to) it's looking like a snake loa is indeed on the menu.

And if there's an Ula'tek raid, might that indicate it as a 12.1 zone rather than minor patch content?

Welp...

12.1 ain't the Arathi Empire afterall, it's the dang Snake Loa.

Ya know what? Long time coming. W Amani.

[Vakir]

Arathi Empire should be its own expansion.

[Joshuaj]

Judging by the map and whatnot, 1 question remains...

What's 12.2 gonna be?

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Arathi Empire should be its own expansion.

It likely will be tbh. Kinda hoping 12.2 is either Naga-based, or celestial body based.

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Imagine if I'm completely wrong and 12.2 IS the Arathi Empire? That'd be crazy funny. Either way, maybe Midnight will end with the Light being the antagonist?

[Merryck]

If 12.2 isn't Elune what a dud of an expansion Midnight will be ... wasting a patch in the ultimate Light vs Void expansion for a fucking snake.

[Joshuaj]

If 12.2 isn't Elune what a dud of an expansion Midnight will be ... wasting a patch in the ultimate Light vs Void expansion for a fucking snake.

I mean, apparently Zul'Aman has a lot of Light-based stuff about it, and based off the island's looks, it seems like 12.1 will be Light and Death based.

[milkmustache]

I do think it's worth it to note, this is the first expansion in a while that we've had multiple raids per patch, so even if there is an Ula'tek raid in 12.1, it's not necessarily the ONLY raid.

[Joshuaj]

So maybe 12.2 will be Elune-based, but like...idk. At the very least, I want to see what's above the Naaru, assuming there is anything above them ofc.

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I do think it's worth it to note, this is the first expansion in a while that we've had multiple raids per patch, so even if there is an Ula'tek raid in 12.1, it's not necessarily the ONLY raid.

This is also true, but I don't want to jump to conclusions.

[LarryWithTheWeatherReport]

Welp...

12.1 ain't the Arathi Empire afterall, it's the dang Snake Loa.

Ya know what? Long time coming. W Amani.

Judging by the map and whatnot, 1 question remains...

What's 12.2 gonna be?

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It likely will be tbh. Kinda hoping 12.2 is either Naga-based, or celestial body based.

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Imagine if I'm completely wrong and 12.2 IS the Arathi Empire? That'd be crazy funny. Either way, maybe Midnight will end with the Light being the antagonist?

Yes!!!!

More troll/Loa content! Well deserved I’ll say after not having any for such a long time. Very curious to see Ula’tek as she’s definitely not a normal Loa similar to Hakkar the soul flayer.

I’m cool with the final patch being about any whether it’s Naga, or a celestial or the Arathi. Although I’m guessing it’ll most likely be Void based with Xal’atath gaining more power and being the final boss to be the end of Midnight.

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If 12.2 isn't Elune what a dud of an expansion Midnight will be ... wasting a patch in the ultimate Light vs Void expansion for a fucking snake.

How dare you disrespect the great Ula’tek!

She could very well be badass and more powerful than all the villains we ever know with the exception of Sargeras.

Very curious to see her especially after seeing her small appearance in Chronicles of the Second War Tides of Darkness.

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I do think it's worth it to note, this is the first expansion in a while that we've had multiple raids per patch, so even if there is an Ula'tek raid in 12.1, it's not necessarily the ONLY raid.

Maybe we’ll even have 3 major patches instead of 2. Not likely since they wanna push out Last Titan sooner rather than later but still possible.

Midnight is already looking to be a top tier expansions one of the best in long time and this news further confirms it. Could end up in a lot of people’s top 3 favorite expansions.