Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Also, tf was Xal'atath's plan before the Dark Heart was broken, repaired, and then stolen by the Ethereals? Was she always planning on luring us to K'aresh to take care of Dimensius?

The way the framing of the K'aresh Raid Cinematic felt like the writers wanted to reinforce that they are 5D Chess Keikaku Plan after people pointed out how stupid the confrontation with Alleria at the Beledar slurping was.

Albeit, assumedly they did not plan any of it and it just fell into their lap like this.

[Santandame]

Remix feels dead at the moment. Logged on earlier and there was a minuscule amount of groups listed in the group finder.

I wonder if this means big changes are in order for any potential versions of a remix or if they’re replaced entirely with a new game mode.

[Nymrohd]

Remix feels dead at the moment. Logged on earlier and there was a minuscule amount of groups listed in the group finder.

I wonder if this means big changes are in order for any potential versions of a remix or if they’re replaced entirely with a new game mode.

I assume most people have everything they need from Remix. The few chasing the IP grind past 999 are probably just soloing M+ runs. Honestly I have bought everything, have over 2 million bronze for decor in the final phase and got all achievements, including M +49. All I need is to log in the last phase to get the last FoS

[Darkarath]

Remix feels dead at the moment. Logged on earlier and there was a minuscule amount of groups listed in the group finder.

I wonder if this means big changes are in order for any potential versions of a remix or if they’re replaced entirely with a new game mode.

Really? There are lots of groups in my realm. Lots of players in the Infinite Dragonflight hub too.

IMO this Remix has been a huge success. I welcome the timegating. It's better (for me) and for the remix experience itself.

Plus we have the new content coming next week !! Might Blizzard introduce the Vampire Survivor mode in Remix? Or will we get some dungeons and raids with Infinite bosses? Will we get some lore? An Iridikron cameo?

[Ochinko]

I agree that the content release cadence was pretty enjoyable during legion remix.

While the Legion Commander sets have been amazing (more please), having reached the end now it feels like they coulda made some more amazing things available as rewards. The Legion Flying Disc comes to mind from the broken shore, or a legion ship mount (either with us riding it surf style or just a transformation, maybe even multi passenger, there are smaller ones I am talking about, not the very big ones). Also last boss Vault of the Wardens as an armor set, etc..

Not gonna complain too much, it was very enjoyable and the rewards were fair.

[Lady Atia]

I agree that the content release cadence was pretty enjoyable during legion remix.

While the Legion Commander sets have been amazing (more please), having reached the end now it feels like they coulda made some more amazing things available as rewards. The Legion Flying Disc comes to mind from the broken shore, or a legion ship mount (either with us riding it surf style or just a transformation, maybe even multi passenger, there are smaller ones I am talking about, not the very big ones). Also last boss Vault of the Wardens as an armor set, etc..

Not gonna complain too much, it was very enjoyable and the rewards were fair.

Or the gladiator drake colours without armour. Or warden glaives (as swords so anyone can mogg them). Also some nightmare mounts (drake and bear). Also I think the fel bats also had variants with silver armour? Or just fel bats without any armour, just with a simple saddle that would have been cool aswell. Last but not least, Mage tower skins but fel this time, similiar to the fel class mounts.


Buuuut I guess they can still do all of that with the next season of legion remix down the line.

[micwini]

Remix feels dead at the moment. Logged on earlier and there was a minuscule amount of groups listed in the group finder.

I wonder if this means big changes are in order for any potential versions of a remix or if they’re replaced entirely with a new game mode.

I think its mostly people are starting to get done. Im playing a casually just enjoying the qquests at the beginning and now I have everything bought, most achievements and close to 999 vers.

We'll probably see some resurgence when housing hits and people are going to farm some extra bronze from the remix housing vendor.

[Nymrohd]

I agree that the content release cadence was pretty enjoyable during legion remix.

While the Legion Commander sets have been amazing (more please), having reached the end now it feels like they coulda made some more amazing things available as rewards. The Legion Flying Disc comes to mind from the broken shore, or a legion ship mount (either with us riding it surf style or just a transformation, maybe even multi passenger, there are smaller ones I am talking about, not the very big ones). Also last boss Vault of the Wardens as an armor set, etc..

Not gonna complain too much, it was very enjoyable and the rewards were fair.

The crazy thing is we did not get the Legion Assault weapons, did we?

[KyleEverett]

So, gonna assume we'll get 12.1 announced in July, with it releasing in September, yeah?

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Makes me wonder when we're getting a roadmap for next year.

12.1 should be in August. 24 weeks from expansion launch most likely. It was 26 weeks between TWW launch and 11.1 but that was over Christmas.

[Avikur]

So with remix ending on 19th January, and turbulent timeways ending on 3rd February, when should we expect the pre patch? If midnight follows the same pattern as TWW it would release on 28th January.

20th Jan would be quite a long pre patch, and still 2 weeks left of TT
28th Jan would be the same length pre patch as TWW, but thats a week after remix ends, and a week still to go of TT at that point
3rd Feb would be at the end of both events but a pretty short pre patch

[Enrif]

Also, tf was Xal'atath's plan before the Dark Heart was broken, repaired, and then stolen by the Ethereals? Was she always planning on luring us to K'aresh to take care of Dimensius?

i think the original plan was to use the blackblood (void)and the energies of beledar(light) and dalaran(arcane) to tunnel down into the core. Now with dimensius (void) she got enough void power, but needed more light and arcane power, and the sunwell was the ideal conduit for that?

would make as much sense as anything else

[Cheezits]

Symmetra for Xalatath instead of Moira is a CHOICE.

[Merryck]

Symmetra for Xalatath instead of Moira is a CHOICE.

It's just a recolour of the Tyrande skin, too.

[justwatching]

Extremely lazy recolor yeah. In general that cross promotion just feels like using some assets they had lying around with that random SC2 UI skin and nothing for D4.

[Joshuaj]

Hey, Vakir, apparently the Emperor of the Arathi Empire never saw himself battle in Renilash, just the expedition he sent to Hallowfall, according to what I read on the Warcraft Wiki. This means Midnight is most likely just Renilash.

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God, I cannot wait to see the Arathi Empire's capital. Presuming they have a holy castle or palace, it will probably look fucking gorgeous. The Light seriously needs some cool shit, cause rn it's full of chumps.

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Imagine a Sacred Flame counterpart of the Voidspire at Avaloren!

[Vakir]

Then why was it important to go to Khaz Algar in the first place? It was all very dumb unless TWW Earthen have a key role to save the day in TLT

I'm sure they will since the Earthen were already a big thing back in the earlier Titan stuff in Wrath.

As far as why, that's the rub. The order and pacing of this is extremely weird and I'm not sure why it was even done besides marketing. Maybe the black blood and Nerubian fighting was one plan before the Dimensius opportunity posed itself, since she did say she lured us to empower the blood in the first place.

That's all Watsonian. My Doylist read is the same as it ever has been since the Draenei retcon, even if I love them to death and think they're a great change: "lore, lol"

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Hey, Vakir, apparently the Emperor of the Arathi Empire never saw himself battle in Renilash, just the expedition he sent to Hallowfall, according to what I read on the Warcraft Wiki. This means Midnight is most likely just Renilash.

Booooo. This better escalate like crazy from just the March raid to feel like a proper war. If you're not gonna have a good story or main characters, at least make it a fun spectacle.

[Raetary]

With now a mass of Void having been injected into the planet and the Vanguard seemingly getting flushed down alongside it.
We could get another even bigger LvV clash down the line, so i wouldn't count Renilash out just yet.

Honestly, i think instead of just breaching the Worldcore, Xal might go for corrupting the entire Manifold.

Which would leave Azeroth in her clutches, the Titans would have a logical and pretty serious emergency to call them back down and we could get another Legion-invasion-esque Azeroth wide patch where the whole planet starts leaking corruption.

[Ersula]

Hey, Vakir, apparently the Emperor of the Arathi Empire never saw himself battle in Renilash, just the expedition he sent to Hallowfall, according to what I read on the Warcraft Wiki. This means Midnight is most likely just Renilash.

The simplest villain scheme would be that the Emperor is secretly a Dreadlord. And he takes the opportunity of sending all the light users away to turn it into an empire of evil.

[Joshuaj]

The simplest villain scheme would be that the Emperor is secretly a Dreadlord. And he takes the opportunity of sending all the light users away to turn it into an empire of evil.

So, basically Balnazzar but crazier? I wouldn't be against it, but it sounds too obvious and cliché

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I mean, hey I did say I wanted a Worldcore skybox Raid so I guess we're getting that maybe? A final clash underground near the most precious thing in the Universe is cool too if it plays out that way for 12.2.