Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Cheezits]

]4 tiers btw are kinda supported by the fact that we have 4 gladiator mount recolours datamined. Has anyone found the MDI/BTM banners for midnight already? TWW had all 3 (for it's 3 seasons) in the alpha.

That's a bit of a shock.

[Nymrohd]

That's a bit of a shock.

Maybe they don't have a Remix planned to keep people doing something once S3 is over and they will do another version of fated season.
Heck they could even do a fated season that includes TWW and Mid

[Lady Atia]

That's a bit of a shock.

It gets better. We have a green one for ulatek, a red one to go with a lordaeron themed first flame temple season and a purple one for the final season with xal.

[Cheezits]

It gets better. We have a green one for ulatek, a red one to go with a lordaeron themed first flame temple season and a purple one for the final season with xal.

If this is true, Ion was spot on the money. We'll still need a little something extra with Ulatek though.

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https://i.redd.it/0jvizpzdt3tf1.png

Wow, the Kaijus really have an overt color scheme- the green one has neon poison colors, the red one is very clearly on fire, and the purple one has golden armor for Xal.

[Dracullus]

I mean, Midnight is "member TBC part 2 - Legion follow up" so having a troll raid is kinda a must have?

What I would like though if they experimented with 1 bigger raid tier - 2 smaller raid tiers (with less months for the seasons than the other two) - 1 big raid tier for the finale season. Giving us 4 seasons but still keeping the same amount of bosses overall? With the first and last tier lasting a bit longer than the other two.

4 tiers btw are kinda supported by the fact that we have 4 gladiator mount recolours datamined. Has anyone found the MDI/BTM banners for midnight already? TWW had all 3 (for it's 3 seasons) in the alpha.

Kinda hope for 4 tier expac with shorter S2/S3 - or 4 slightly shorter MD seasons (something like 24->21 weeks would be enough). That would move TLT date back to Christmas season, for sure releasing Midnight randomly in March created some headaches for marketing team (I guess housing that could be launched separately helped a lot).

And I hope they noticed that proper 4 tier expac with DF schedule rounds up expac length to perfect 2 years, which creates even more stable schedule. I don't think 3 tier expacs without droughts are feasible in the long run.

[Reive]

I'll chime in and give my 2 cents as a pvper

The 4 color variants don't really mean anything. It's not unusual for them to make extra variants of the glad mounts without actually using them.

[Cheezits]

I'll chime in and give my 2 cents as a pvper

The 4 color variants don't really mean anything. It's not unusual for them to make extra variants of the glad mounts without actually using them.

Two of the future ones are a dead ringer for future content (Ula'tek is green, Xal is purple and gold) it's really just a matter of whether or not the fire themed one will be used.

[Schwert]

If this is true, Ion was spot on the money. We'll still need a little something extra with Ulatek though.

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https://i.redd.it/0jvizpzdt3tf1.png

Wow, the Kaijus really have an overt color scheme- the green one has neon poison colors, the red one is very clearly on fire, and the purple one has golden armor for Xal.

Happy for the 20 people who'll get them.
These things have been a waste of resources since even before solo shuffle destroyed 3's participation.

[Lady Atia]

If this is true, Ion was spot on the money. We'll still need a little something extra with Ulatek though.

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https://i.redd.it/0jvizpzdt3tf1.png

Wow, the Kaijus really have an overt color scheme- the green one has neon poison colors, the red one is very clearly on fire, and the purple one has golden armor for Xal.

Yeah, they are indeed really cool this time, on par with Dragonflight gladiator mounts.

Really hoping for a way to grind old ones via seasonal pvp renown down the line now :/

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I'll chime in and give my 2 cents as a pvper

The 4 color variants don't really mean anything. It's not unusual for them to make extra variants of the glad mounts without actually using them.

Which .... would be an even bigger waste of ressources? The only recent gladiator and M+ mounts that ended up unused (blue deathwalker in shadowlands and the stone bat in TWW) didn't got used because they changed the last season mounts because of community backlash (funny enough, both ended up as golden and purple lol) of them being too similiar in one case and boring and not fitting for the other. This time we have 4 really different, popping colours that literally fit our patch outline, something they stated to intend with the TWW s3 change. The pvp enchants also pretty much follow the patch season theming now aswell.

(TWW s1 was a bit of an outlier but than again, the arathi did fight against the nerubians prominently - meanwhile s2 got the goblin enchant and s3 the ethereal arcane one. Midnight s1 pvp enchant is dominar/xal themed.)

[Darkarath]

Could we end up having shorter seasons and smaller raids? Maybe a raid of 5-6 bosses every 4 months?

Would be cool if Blizzard manages to make up to x.3 expansions that last between 18 and 20 months.

[Dracullus]

Could we end up having shorter seasons and smaller raids? Maybe a raid of 5-6 bosses every 4 months?

Would be cool if Blizzard manages to make up to x.3 expansions that last between 18 and 20 months.

If S2 will be significantly shorter, it will be reflected on Roadmap. With current schedule we should reach to 12.1.7 in 2026, with shorter season we would probably go straight from 12.1.5 to 12.2.

[allegrian]

Yeah, WoW is a game, that is way more dependant on group play than Diablo 4, which is mostly a solo experience. People are already up in arms about a 5% difference of performance between various specs, imagine if something vastly over or under-performs.

You really can't compare the two games at all.


No you see, Void Elves aren't acceptable as High Elves, because they just look like High Elves but there is the glaring difference that their tooltip says Void Elf. Now if Blood Elves were neutral, then the Alliance would have High Elves (which they already do) but their tooltip still doesn't say High Elves... wait...

So the plan is to rip out a core Horde race, to not solve a problem that doesn't even exist. That sounds like a great plan.

They should do stuff like remix more often, where balance is mostly irrelevant and everyone has fun.

I recently raided Manaforge again after months of only playing remix and it feels bad to have super slow and punishing boss fights again. The Ilvl, achievent, logs and role/class gatekeeping in LFG due to that difficulty sucks too.

I think the sweet spot in boss difficulty is early SoD phases.

[Lady Atia]

If S2 will be significantly shorter, it will be reflected on Roadmap. With current schedule we should reach to 12.1.7 in 2026, with shorter season we would probably go straight from 12.1.5 to 12.2.

True, the roadmap would pretty much spill it out haha.

When ... when are we supposed to get the roadmaps again?

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They should do stuff like remix more often, where balance is mostly irrelevant and everyone has fun.

I recently raided Manaforge again after months of only playing remix and it feels bad to have super slow and punishing boss fights again. The Ilvl, achievent, logs and role/class gatekeeping in LFG due to that difficulty sucks too.

I think the sweet spot in boss difficulty is early SoD phases.

The question is - for whom is the highest difficulty supposed to be? Imo, Mythic should be hard for the first half of a season, but puggable by the end of it. I don't care if some mole people can clear it, I'll just clear it faster and my alts will be able to do it too at the end of a patch. But again, as long as the devs are focused on keeping people subbed by carots they (mostly) never can reach we will have seasons that die out the longer they go. Retail is a ghost town right now, in any of the big pillars.

[Darkarath]

True, the roadmap would pretty much spill it out haha.

When ... when are we supposed to get the roadmaps again?

I'm guessing that next week? Holidays come after so it's probably Blizzard last chance to publish the Roadmap before 2026.

[Enrif]

huh, the eyes on these "kaiju" drakes are quite reminiscent of Galakrond... who could be considered a Kaiju? Maybe we get Galakrond stuff afterall?

[Joshuaj]

huh, the eyes on these "kaiju" drakes are quite reminiscent of Galakrond... who could be considered a Kaiju? Maybe we get Galakrond stuff afterall?

Considering the Dark Heart is apparently named after Galakrond, I wouldn't be shocked if the Kaiju drakes held some of his power or essence.

[Nymrohd]

They should do stuff like remix more often, where balance is mostly irrelevant and everyone has fun.

I recently raided Manaforge again after months of only playing remix and it feels bad to have super slow and punishing boss fights again. The Ilvl, achievent, logs and role/class gatekeeping in LFG due to that difficulty sucks too.

I think the sweet spot in boss difficulty is early SoD phases.

Do we really have fun running around vaporizing bosses? The only fun is that it's all so fast. And we can have that in something like Torghast I guess.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Yeah it should be happening next week if traditions follow.

[Syegfryed]

Does anyone have the quest where brokers talk about warriors in wow no using magic? is swear i saw here but i cant find again

[Jaggler]

Do we really have fun running around vaporizing bosses? The only fun is that it's all so fast. And we can have that in something like Torghast I guess.

This. Remix is fun for like a few weeks, but once you have to farm raids etc, it's just a chore, and less engaging than anything in retail