Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I don't know what to make of how consequential the events are if the events are consequential as described then I mean, its' cool but the Sunwell "Uniting the Tribe" and events after Base don't make much sense in-universe if the events are as consequential from Base as they seem to make it based on datamining.

[Xilurm]

By the way, noted these two weapon names for the Alleria Voidspire fight- any implications, we thinking?

https://www.wowhead.com/beta/item=24...ons-false-echo
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/item=26...ft-remembrance

Probably something to do with the fight, not the actual characters.

[Cheezits]

I don't know what to make of how consequential the events are if the events are consequential as described then I mean, its' cool but the Sunwell "Uniting the Tribe" and events after Base don't make much sense in-universe if the events are as consequential from Base as they seem to make it based on datamining.

If it's only Ula'tek, there will have to be some tiny plot thread tying it to Xal, as we saw with Undermine. But that would get in the way of the trolls having a solid storyline (loa worship vs self-sustenance) which makes me think the main plot will continue in another way (dungeon).

There are a lot of new Scarlet weapons currently using old weapon models.

https://www.wowhead.com/beta/items/n...ilter=166;12;0

[Lady Atia]

I think the swap to the swirling portal logins would be a lot more understandable if we had warband screens that fit the prior themeing of the login screens.

I suppose Freywold Spring and maybe Cultist's Quay could kind of work? I'd imagine something a bit more akin to Nerubians crawling upwards into the voidy webs above Azj-Kahet, or a scene of Hallowfall with Beldar in the distance. The new road going towards the Sunwell with the Voidstorm pouring in is the obvious pick for Midnight.

That in mind-- are we aware of any new warband camp screens coming our way in Midnight aside from assumption?

We have two housing screens iirc, but nothing besides them?

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None so far besides the housing ones (one for each hood). I actually think this may be because they want to do Voidstorm-less SMC as a screen which would be a spoiler

No excuse for the other zones, though.

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By the way, noted these two weapon names for the Alleria Voidspire fight- any implications, we thinking?

https://www.wowhead.com/beta/item=24...ons-false-echo
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/item=26...ft-remembrance

Still criminal that she doesn't drop her own bow .... I thought they had learned with Sylvanas/Fyrrak/Nexus King ...

[Ersula]

Still criminal that she doesn't drop her own bow .... I thought they had learned with Sylvanas/Fyrrak/Nexus King ...

The rule of thumb is that they don't drop their weapon if the character is still canonically using it. Sylvanas dropped that bow because she loses her Mawsworn gettup after that fight. Alleria's still going to be using that bow.

Besides the Manaforge Omega bow is extremely similar.

Although what if this means Turalyon or Arator actually stops being a Paladin in the future?

[Lady Atia]

The rule of thumb is that they don't drop their weapon if the character is still canonically using it. Sylvanas dropped that bow because she loses her Mawsworn gettup after that fight. Alleria's still going to be using that bow.

Besides the Manaforge Omega bow is extremely similar.

Not really, none of the manaforge bows have the right colour. We get a similiar bow as open world reward iirc but it's still not her model I think.

The fun thing is that she does drop a bow, which is named something with ranger general but it's simply just not her model haha.

And technically Sylvanas got a new bow with her post-Maw gear yes, but for reasons no one knows she never used that one ingame. She simply uses both her old bows in the raid iirc.

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Also, is beta down rn?

[Ersula]

And technically Sylvanas got a new bow with her post-Maw gear yes, but for reasons no one knows she never used that one ingame. She simply uses both her old bows in the raid iirc.

??? She uses the Legendary drop bow in both the fight & the cinematic.

[Lady Atia]

??? She uses the Legendary drop bow in both the fight & the cinematic.

I'm talking about the Sepulcher lol.

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They made a new bow for her post-maw gear, but never used it:



Instead she still uses Rae'shelare for the later part, and I think her BfA bow during the Anduin fight?

[Cheezits]

Also, is beta down rn?

Marlamin said the plan is for a new build today. Would be nice to get it earlier than later.

[Marlamin]

Marlamin said the plan is for a new build today. Would be nice to get it earlier than later.

Servers are already coming back up with the new build, so may even be before midnight EU time which is great.

[Cheezits]

Servers are already coming back up with the new build, so may even be before midnight EU time which is great.

Is it a big boy build?

[Joshuaj]

I would expect it to be a bigger build, since we went all of last week without one.

[Marlamin]

Is it a big boy build?

Not a clue, can't tell from just the server version alone, but it is the first build since mid-December so there should at least be some notable things.

[Xilurm]

I would expect it to be a bigger build, since we went all of last week without one.

Last week was the one after the holidays.

[Makorus]

There hasn't been a build since Christmas I thought?

[Marlamin]

There hasn't been a build since Christmas I thought?

Pretty much correct, the other 12.0 build was a PTR build which is basically already content-locked, so it was more of a hotfix build.

[Valysar]

We'll obviously see the new maps

[Cheezits]

We'll obviously see the new maps

I think retail roadmap is not going to be very exciting unless they make it clear that 12.1 is more than Atal'Utek. Though I would like some confirmation on more customizations.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I think retail roadmap is not going to be very exciting unless they make it clear that 12.1 is more than Atal'Utek. Though I would like some confirmation on more customizations.

Pretty certain they're talking about the Maps of zones/dungeons or they're referring to new maps as in new stuff that exists in the code.

Obviously, who knows when the Roadmaps drop. We know that Housing is receiving a Roadmap but it may also be a misinterpretation and its the actual Roadmap they're talking about.

[Cheezits]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wo...idance/2227538

MUCH easier M+ dungeons: a "kill these mobs" route provided from keys 2-5 with no death subtractions on the timer. Huge feature for a surprise one.

PVP rework next please.