Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Bozzoltank]

What are some thoughts on new landmasses that will inevitably appear on Azeroth? Based on the updated world map, of course.



Apart from "Avaloren" and the Arathi Empire's homeland... what other places are there that we have not been to yet? Big enough to warrant being added to the game, that is.

The are between Kalimdor and Northrend (west of the Broken Isles) is just ripe for like 1-2 new continents.

I genuinely hope we get a "spin the globe" button, because it is getting mighty crowded (unless they size down islands like Kul Tiras, Zandalar and Khaz Algar).

North-West, above Kalimdor and next to Northrend, is a solid spot for another continent, though!

[Xilurm]

What are some thoughts on new landmasses that will inevitably appear on Azeroth? Based on the updated world map, of course.

It's not really updated. Only the Quel'thalas are is different, the rest is the exact same as it is on live.

[Joshuaj]

What are some thoughts on new landmasses that will inevitably appear on Azeroth? Based on the updated world map, of course.



Apart from "Avaloren" and the Arathi Empire's homeland... what other places are there that we have not been to yet? Big enough to warrant being added to the game, that is.

The are between Kalimdor and Northrend (west of the Broken Isles) is just ripe for like 1-2 new continents.

I'm actually okay with Kalimdor being more isolated. After all, in WC3, they were quite literally considered to be "FORGOTTEN lands".

As for yet to be explored places? Tel'abim, Plunder Isle, and Balor come to mind.
Idk about other places though.

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There aren't really any landmasses we are aware off that would be between Kalimdor and Northrend. An Island that could sit east of Kalimdort would be Kezan, but I doubt we would go there anytime soon, considering we just had Undermine There's also Tel'abim but that island is even smaller. Also the World Map in Game is wildely out of scale, Broken Isles, Kul Tiras and Zandalar are magnitudes bigger than they actually are.

Kezan is close to the Maelstrom though, south of it even...

[Jaggler]

Kezan is close to the Maelstrom though, south of it even...

"An island that would sit east of Kalimdor"

[Joshuaj]

"An island that would sit east of Kalimdor"

I can't read lmaoooo my fault

[milkmustache]

A necromancer DK spec almost feels wrong without robes... which made me think; I wonder what a landscape would look like where gear type is unrestricted for all classes, and the importance lies on the stat? I obviously don't have the game dev wherewithal to type out what that would actually mean, but I think it'd be cool to decide whether or not you want a little bit of extra armor because you play offensively as a mage, sacrificing some intellect in the process, or you need more spellcasting intellect so you wear robes as a hypothetical Necromancer.

Could open an excuse for transmog too.

[Alanar]

It's not really updated. Only the Quel'thalas are is different, the rest is the exact same as it is on live.

Yup, Maelstrom is still wrong, broken isle and others are to large in comparison, Nazjatar not on the world map etc etc.

The world map has been shit since.. forver almost. The only updated part is of midnight area.

[Cheezits]

I'm still really confused why they bothered to hide Atal'utek on the map when it's visible in the game right now. I guess they want an excuse to draw a million world maps (they'll make yet another one if they update Lordaeron).

[Joshuaj]

Wanna know what would be cool?

If they did a saga post-Worldsoul Saga called "The Empire's Saga!"

One expac could be about a Pirate Empire, with Dread Admiral Nightsquall and his fleet battling the Bloodsail Pirates!

Another expac can be about the Arathi Empire and their lands!

And another expac can be about different Demonic factions battling each-other across the Nether (With Outland serving as their main battleground, namely as a means of claiming of a proper foothold for a new Azeroth invasion)!

[Alanar]

I'm still really confused why they bothered to hide Atal'utek on the map when it's visible in the game right now. I guess they want an excuse to draw a million world maps (they'll make yet another one if they update Lordaeron).

Either a seperate dimension, so not on the actual world map , something yet to come, so hidden for now or just not happening. We will find out sooner or later probably.

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A necromancer DK spec almost feels wrong without robes... which made me think; I wonder what a landscape would look like where gear type is unrestricted for all classes, and the importance lies on the stat? I obviously don't have the game dev wherewithal to type out what that would actually mean, but I think it'd be cool to decide whether or not you want a little bit of extra armor because you play offensively as a mage, sacrificing some intellect in the process, or you need more spellcasting intellect so you wear robes as a hypothetical Necromancer.

Could open an excuse for transmog too.

Sure, but we had many plate robes as well (including dk specific) and ofc ->transmog. Or if its newly added, maybe different tier pieces (maybe intelect) will have a robe version. We had past raid tiers, ToT comes to mind, that had shaman robe and non robe version. Tbf, I think cloth for necromancer (dk) is the last one that makes sense to me tbh.

[Raetary]

Either a seperate dimension, so not on the actual world map or something yet to come. We will find out sooner or later probably.

It's on the Zul'Aman zone map, the campaign ends on Zul'jan looking over to the isle and you can fly over to it, you just get teleported out.
The mountain is also prominently present on the loading screen art.

It's not another dimension...

[Alanar]

Wanna know what would be cool?

If they did a saga post-Worldsoul Saga called "The Empire's Saga!"

One expac could be about a Pirate Empire, with Dread Admiral Nightsquall!

Another expac can be about the Arathi Empire and their lands!

And another expac can be about different Demonic factions battling each-other across the Nether (With Outland serving as their main battleground, namely as a means of claiming of a proper foothold for a new Azeroth invasion)!

What about bloodsail Isle? There is a whole pirate Island that suppose to have a pirate duke and what not. Nightsquall seem like nubs compared to that whole bloodsail chain. Or are they fused? I cant remember.

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It's on the Zul'Aman zone map, the campaign ends on Zul'jan looking over to the isle and you can fly over to it, you just get teleported out.
The mountain is also prominently present on the loading screen art.

It's not another dimension...

Oke fair, but it could still lead into a loading screen if flying to it. When available. We had similar situations, that the backround was there, without its functionality, so of cardbord backround. Is it on the world map? Or just the zone map?

But, it could just be patch content as well.

[Joshuaj]

What about bloodsaid Isle? There is a whole pirate Island that suppose to have a pirate duke and what not. Nightsquall seem like nubs compared to that whole bloodsail chain. Or are they fused? I cant remember.

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Oke fair, but it could still lead into a loading screen if flying to it. When available. We had similar situations, that the backround was there, without its functionality, so of cardbord backround. Is it on the world map? Or just the zone map?

But, it could just be patch content as well.

Plunder Isle is precisely the location I was thinking about. Can be Nightsquall and his fleet Vs the Bloodsail Pirates.

Shit, maybe throw in a One Piece reference by having a major treasure be the end goal of the expac lol.

[Alanar]

Plunder Isle is precisely the location I was thinking about. Can be Nightsquall and his fleet Vs the Bloodsail Pirates.

Shit, maybe throw in a One Piece reference by having a major treasure be the end goal of the expac lol.

Plunder Isle, thats the one thanks!

Aah, cool, ye sure I would like that absolutely. Could be a blast.

This might sound strange, but this isle and supposed art, almost made me think about the first pokemon movie (mewtwo) who was stationed on a island, with high cliffs and ash and co had to reach at at the buttom, with spike stairs. Felt similar. I wouldnt blame ye if you have no idea what I mean, but plunder isle always seemed cool to me and very difficilt to reach. High cliffs, spiked, wild sea.

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I genuinely hope we get a "spin the globe" button, because it is getting mighty crowded (unless they size down islands like Kul Tiras, Zandalar and Khaz Algar).

North-West, above Kalimdor and next to Northrend, is a solid spot for another continent, though!

I hoped for this, for a while, so the maelstrom can be back in the middle and make sense. Some island are jist way to big on the map. I gave up tho, because its been like this for a long time. They just dont care.

[Enrif]

A necromancer DK spec almost feels wrong without robes... which made me think; I wonder what a landscape would look like where gear type is unrestricted for all classes, and the importance lies on the stat? I obviously don't have the game dev wherewithal to type out what that would actually mean, but I think it'd be cool to decide whether or not you want a little bit of extra armor because you play offensively as a mage, sacrificing some intellect in the process, or you need more spellcasting intellect so you wear robes as a hypothetical Necromancer.

Could open an excuse for transmog too.

well, the first season tier for DK in midnight is a robe and looks pretty much like a necromancer. and then there is the necrolords set that gives the classic necromancer look to anyone. I don't think they will ever make you need to wear different armor types, as paladin healers already have an int plate.

Though i wouldn't mind breaking the mog restrictions. FF14 did it recently and it works out greatly.

[Khaza-R]

I'm still really confused why they bothered to hide Atal'utek on the map when it's visible in the game right now. I guess they want an excuse to draw a million world maps (they'll make yet another one if they update Lordaeron).

I assume so that way when its the only content update in 12.1, people won't turn and say they didn't add anything.

[milkmustache]

well, the first season tier for DK in midnight is a robe and looks pretty much like a necromancer. and then there is the necrolords set that gives the classic necromancer look to anyone. I don't think they will ever make you need to wear different armor types, as paladin healers already have an int plate.

Hey look at that, if I had thought for more than 15 seconds I would've seen the answer right in front of me lol.

Completely forgot about the new DK tier. I think I just want to live my battlemage/spellblade fantasies too much.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I have this hunch that if we ever get any Pirate themed content its' going to be tied to Classic+. It did sort of feel like it with SoD that they were moving in that direction and so it wouldn't surprise me if there are some Islands added in that context.

I think the problem Retail has is that they probably think they need to keep the maxima of concepts and I think if nothing else what they're failing to realize is we just need them to actually care and have a plan + execution that actually showcases them in the driver seat rather than hanging on for dear life.

[Cheezits]

Not sure if we've talked about it here yet but there's a "hub" in Silvermoon of different elves (Belf and Velf) that seem to be planning for some kind of expedition, similar to the hub on Siren Isle. All the island talk is what reminded me of this. If it's not Atal'Utek I wonder if they will pull out a new kind of Siren Isle for the post-launch pre-12.1 period, though I have no idea what it would be.

[Enrif]

Not sure if we've talked about it here yet but there's a "hub" in Silvermoon of different elves (Belf and Velf) that seem to be planning for some kind of expedition, similar to the hub on Siren Isle. All the island talk is what reminded me of this. If it's not Atal'Utek I wonder if they will pull out a new kind of Siren Isle for the post-launch pre-12.1 period, though I have no idea what it would be.

where is this group? i'd like to see them for myself