Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Jaggler]

It's from the Midnight Falls encounter in March on Quel'Danas!

Ahh okay, thank you very much

[Boomer Thor]

You know it's kinda funny how blizzard had like the opportunity to just reboot wow in SL and that timeline where they did that is considered to be better. Warcraft won't get better story and will still be considered slop because it's both under blizzard writers (they have a policy where to get hired your writing skills has to be below that of the guy that wrote Batman v Superman)

And then there is the stuff where their company is owned by Activision and has further been made a slop slave under microslop

It's all corporate slop to the point where if you were to throw a food analogy blizzard products are basically pudding made of dog vomit

It's stuff that belongs in a trash can at best

[Lady Atia]

So everyone is saying the Sunwell is gonna be all rainbowy as the Dawnwell... but why wouldn't it look like this? This is an apparent inbetween of Light and Void called the Dusk Stone

Funny enough, couldn't that basically retconning bloodknights in TBC to use a mix of void and light, hence their red spells back than? It kinda makes sense since the Naaru they siphoned from was turning into a void sack afterwards.

[Rosstafa]

I wonder if the class for TLT won't be a Radiant Song using Bard/Siren(lol)/Thraegar to reflect the fighting AGAINST Titans, as well as to more fit into the Vrykul and Norse vibes of Northrend. As good of an opportunity for (Engineer Class Here) it doesn't really reflect the expansion, saga, or setting save for one area and its inhabitants.

It also fits Earthen, DEFINITELY Haranir, and most likely whatever variant of Playerbait Vrykul will pop up in TLT. We may have already met their ancestors.

Also- for all the talks about the Light, Lordaeron, Scourge and Fire and Calia, but ALSO Northrend, Dragons, Shadowlands and even Sylvanas... people are forgetting a certain character connected to all of them...

Nobody expects The Bolvar

Disagree that engineer doesn't fit with the theme of the expansion. Titan tech is all over Azeroth, and we've been tinkering with it and fighting against titan constructs for years. Hell, a lot of the main races on Azeroth used to be constructs. It makes complete sense that in what is presumably a battle against the titans that we'd use their tech against them, and I imagine the earthen will be key in helping mobilise our engineers across factions and helping to integrate titan tech into their works, so it ties back into them.

As cool as the idea of a bard for WoW is, I just don't think it fits with the tone or theme of the expansion. Fighting against the gods with the power of...music? I just can't see everyone being faced with this huge threat and being all like 'I think there's a song for this'.

[Joshuaj]

Well, assuming we do battle the Titans, we'd be battling against the Lords of Order, AKA we'd be fighting against SOME of the gods lol.

Also, the power of music can totally work, since music's had a pretty major purpose in the narrative with the Worldsoul songs (The Radiant Song, K'aresh's song, and Argus's song), the Light's song, and the song of creation from the First Ones (which is likely somewhat carried forward with the Light and other influences tbh). Would be neat to see that narrative purpose expand.

[Therougetitan]

So everyone is saying the Sunwell is gonna be all rainbowy as the Dawnwell... but why wouldn't it look like this? This is an apparent inbetween of Light and Void called the Dusk Stone

While a sound theory the dawn preludes the sun and dusk preludes the night I would not count on it.

[rainhard]

Do we know if we are gonna get another cgi cinematic for midnight or any 2D one soon?

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Do we know if we are gonna get another cgi cinematic for midnight or any 2D one soon?

Uhm, I assume we get a Launch Cinematic its' possibly just another Xal'atath monologue but that's about it I think unless they surprise us.

[BaumanKing]

Any interesting lore stuff in the collector's edition artbook?

[milkmustache]

Do we know if we are gonna get another cgi cinematic for midnight or any 2D one soon?

I'd assume so, but there have been at least 5 TV spots floating around that are typical CGI cinematics for Housing. Not the same art style as the Housing cinematic shown during the State of Azeroth, but the old standard.

[Skildar]

Do we know if we are gonna get another cgi cinematic for midnight or any 2D one soon?

I'm guessing the housing video did this job.

[milkmustache]

So there are woodsy Djardin in Zul'Aman, although they are called Gnarldin. I haven't seen much with them, but could this possibly be picking up the "primordial troll" thread in some form? Perhaps not a literal ancestor to trolls, but related in a way?

[SaintBigfoot]

While a sound theory the dawn preludes the sun and dusk preludes the night I would not count on it.

I aesthetically dawn and dusk ain’t that different

[Raetary]

I aesthetically dawn and dusk ain’t that different

But thematically they are, because a dawn follows from a dark night, while dusk leads into it.

And so the aesthetics are going to reflect that, and it does as the Dawn Crystal is gold:


And mechanically you use it to protect yourself from the Void onslaught in the fight.

I don't think that the Dawnwell will look that much different from the Sunwell as is, aside from just not being as radiant.

[Hitei]

I still think it was a complete waste to not just permanently darken the well into a Void font.

[SaintBigfoot]

But thematically they are, because a dawn follows from a dark night, while dusk leads into it.

And so the aesthetics are going to reflect that, and it does as the Dawn Crystal is gold:


And mechanically you use it to protect yourself from the Void onslaught in the fight.

I don't think that the Dawnwell will look that much different from the Sunwell as is, aside from just not being as radiant.

Yeah but like... that isn't very distinct from the sunwall, so why even change the name, like the other crystal has both light and void effects around it, which we know is how the Dawnwall is supposed to be.

[Scyth]

I'm guessing the housing video did this job.

Extremely disappointing tbh, although the video was good..
Finally a Belf expansion and they cheap out on animated shorts as well as not giving us another cool story driven cinematic. Very frustrating

[whoisqnx]

Closer and closer to launch I am getting pretty excited. Been doing the main campaign on beta to read everything but I cannot wait to start collecting and doing everything once Midnight is out.
Anyone else still taking days off for expansion launches? I have a full week off, gonna level characters, make some nice gold with dual gathering, etc.

[Skildar]

Extremely disappointing tbh, although the video was good..
Finally a Belf expansion and they cheap out on animated shorts as well as not giving us another cool story driven cinematic. Very frustrating

I get that that feeling. Midnight cinematic with Lor'themar and Liadrin is a burden to watch, it has already been dissected here so I'm not diving into this again. though they could very well salvage this by having a new proper cinematic using the models they've already crafted as they've done for Saurfang and Anduin.

They could very well deliver on the moments preceeding the assault, displaying the magic of the Blood Elves civilisation as well as while providing a tense atmosphere of them knowing Xal'Atath is coming while having no idea what form her assault would take.

[Hearthfinder]

Quel'Thalas deserves a Dragonflight type of cinematic showcasing life there, in a peaceful way.

I hope they're doing something cool for later in the expansion though, given how it'll run in parallel with TBC. Like, echoing Illidan's dramatic speech as they introduce Sargeras or something.