Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Makorus]

casual players don't care now, they wouldn't care then either.

They would care if there was a racial that let someone mine nodes instantly.

[Enrif]

They would care if there was a racial that let someone mine nodes instantly.

no, not really. The teleportation features of dark irons, the second hearthstone, there is so much more important than mining instantly

Only someone who wants to game the AH would care, which isn't a casual thing. On the other hand, it could drive down prices for ores, which is great

[milkmustache]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...e_path=MjM4NTE

New story about Zul'jarra and the Amani, in the same style as the K'aresh story. A long short story. Looking forward to seeing what we can decipher. I hope we don't get a Zul'jan bound to be evil confirmation.

[THEORACLE64]

In regards to the Northrend revamp for TTL, I really hope they extend the zones so we get something that’s 2/3x the size of what we have now given dynamic flying. Although Northrend is a pretty big continent anyway I genuinely hope they push it to the absolute max.

[Dracullus]

In regards to the Northrend revamp for TTL, I really hope they extend the zones so we get something that’s 2/3x the size of what we have now given dynamic flying. Although Northrend is a pretty big continent anyway I genuinely hope they push it to the absolute max.

Northrend has same size as Dragon Isles if not slightly bigger. Size is perfect, but of course I expect much more detailed zones.

And I hope we will get cohesive content again, TWW had disjointed patches, Midnight has even disjointed launch.

[Hearthfinder]

The dream scenario for TLT:

- Playable Vrykul.

- Character customisation overhaul with warpaint, tattoos, long beards, etc.

- Tinker class. Draws inspiration from goblins, gnomes, titan machinery, artificers, etc.

- Deep pine tree forests filled with mushrooms, cobwebs, lakes, meadows, etc. Fjords and mountains. Just nail that feeling of being outside in the crisp winter air. Old-school Northrend mixed with the fidelity of Azure Span, Highmountain, etc.

- Epic viking music.

- Delves taken to the next level with deep dungeons, allowing you to explore ancient titan/dragon/undead/troll/etc. lore.

[Sondrelk]

Besides my constnat wishes like removal of transmog limitations and Dracthyr transmog. I am going to say that it would be fantastic if TLT (or sometime during Midnight for that matter) we get a version of Heroic world tier that removes flying, allowing open world challenges based around the enviroment.

[THEORACLE64]

Northrend has same size as Dragon Isles if not slightly bigger. Size is perfect, but of course I expect much more detailed zones.

And I hope we will get cohesive content again, TWW had disjointed patches, Midnight has even disjointed launch.

Yeah it’s decent already, but having it a bit larger in size would be good. No doubt they’ll make Ulduar a full zone too, seeing as it’s supposed to be the main focus of the expansion. Wouldn’t surprise me if it’s not some what the capital city too.

[Sondrelk]

Yeah it’s decent already, but having it a bit larger in size would be good. No doubt they’ll make Ulduar a full zone too, seeing as it’s supposed to be the main focus of the expansion. Wouldn’t surprise me if it’s not some what the capital city too.

Ulduar doesnt really need to be that much bigger. It's already plenty big when you consider the unused areas which could melt to reveal more machinery. Just the actual raid area being added would be plenty.

[Nymrohd]

Reading the story I am reminded that every time someone calls Zul'jan by his full name, I immediately think of the "Sure, Jan" Brady Bunch meme

[Joshuaj]

I wonder how Blizzard's gonna handle the Sky Father stuff in the future. Is it meant to be a Titan like Aman'Thul? Is it meant to be an aspect of Azeroth? Is it simply a belief and nothing more? Is it something else entirely?

Cause An'she and Mu'sha have some stuff backing them up, with Mu'sha seemingly being just another name for Elune. And the Earth Mother also has some truth behind it, as it seemingly represents either Azeroth's soul or simply the world of Azeroth

[milkmustache]

I wonder how Blizzard's gonna handle the Sky Father stuff in the future.

I don't particularly read it as needing an exact counterpart or even a distinction from the Earth Mother; things like this come from a far earlier point in the lore before there was any mention of a worldsoul or even a personification of Azeroth beyond how we describe Earth. So I think if anything, they're the same, just different portions, in the same way that the earth and the sky are still the same world for us.

I don't exactly see any clarification on that in the future (nor do I think it's necessary), especially with the focus on An'she coming up.

[Raetary]

The short story is so painfully YA.

[Joshuaj]

I don't particularly read it as needing an exact counterpart or even a distinction from the Earth Mother; things like this come from a far earlier point in the lore before there was any mention of a worldsoul or even a personification of Azeroth beyond how we describe Earth. So I think if anything, they're the same, just different portions, in the same way that the earth and the sky are still the same world for us.

I don't exactly see any clarification on that in the future (nor do I think it's necessary), especially with the focus on An'she coming up.

Looking more into it it's basically just how the Tauren personify the skies of Azeroth, the same way they personify the lands of Azeroth as the Earth Mother.

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The short story is so painfully YA.

What's a YA?

[Sondrelk]

What's a YA?

Young adult. Stories marketed towards teens basically. Hunger Games is a good example.

[Nymrohd]

The short story is so painfully YA.

It used to be that you transitioned from children's literature to adult literature. Yet with the prominence of YA I feel many writers start their craft before ever making that transition. Their main influence will never be adult, it will be YA. It is . . . unfortunate.

[milkmustache]

Looking more into it it's basically just how the Tauren personify the skies of Azeroth, the same way they personify the lands of Azeroth as the Earth Mother.

Yea, I agree. I'm just hesitant to see them go toooooooo deep into either showcasing forms/characters for certain deities, or especially linking them with others in the cosmology chart. I think it'd take away a lot of flavor in racial culture. Though I guess the Loas, particularly Bwonsamdi, do a great job of giving a character to a deity.

But imagine if Bwonsamdi was never shown with his form, and it was just revealed he was one of the Eternal Ones from Shadowlands. It's like, ah okay I guess that can work, but we would've missed out on Bwonsamdi and the depth that brings to not just the Zandalari, but the trolls in whole.

So I agree that the Sky Father is most likely just a part of their depiction of Azeroth, and the most that'll get assigned an real character is with the worldsoul itself. Even then, we may not ever get confirmation that the Tauren ever had any relationship with the worldsoul, but rather respected and worshipped the world itself in a nature conservative sort of way.

Side note now that I mentioned Bwonsamdi... if we don't get any Bwonsamdi in Atal'Utek, man am I gonna flip. What an incredibly fun character.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

The short story is so painfully YA.

wait until you find out who the game is rated for.

[SaintBigfoot]

Northrend has same size as Dragon Isles if not slightly bigger. Size is perfect, but of course I expect much more detailed zones.

And I hope we will get cohesive content again, TWW had disjointed patches, Midnight has even disjointed launch.

I genuinely hope they don schuff off zones and instead just combine them together

[Nymrohd]

wait until you find out who the game is rated for.

Given that no rating is above 18, that is an inane answer.

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I genuinely hope they don schuff off zones and instead just combine them together

Yeah I think Northrend can combine into 4-5 zones easily. The question is, do you reserve underground areas for patch content, do you reserve some aboveground areas for patch content or will the patches be in different areas altogether.