Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Limayria]

You know I was really worried about my class but with the changes I actually like my spec (havoc) more, and know from beta I'll really like the apex talents

[Alanar]

At least in my case I think it's more that expectations are down the drain now.

Ye, most people seem to have finally figured it out. "New" costumization options are a new hair color at best. People are fed up and rightfully so imo. The whole sl costumization selling point also was really bad and now once again, they say they want to and understand, but this seems like absolute marketing/pr stuff and nothing substantial.

For example: troll beards if implemented at all, will be used as a HUGE selling point, while honestly these things should just be added. They are lacking in this department for years..we have fans adding npc options etc to players models in a week and it all works. The excuses are just not working for the community anymore. Atleast this is my take on the whole costumization part. Uch things like" we now realise with housing, people want more to costumize and express". Its like.. guys, have you been ignoring all these threads for years or what? So yes, expectations are down the drain.. with allied races and now also with costumization options. This is a part a lof of fans havr been passionate about and they keep ignoring that and coming up with excuses why x doesnt work or y is to much work. Its just adds up and people start to give up, waiting 10 years for someyhing to be added. Logically the drive for people just dropps at some point.

Honestly people who defend blizz with this crap is mindboggeling.

[BaumanKing]

I also still have hope for Xalleria, which would genuinely be peak toxic yuri, I wouldn't even mind if it was part of a heel turn for Alleria. It just makes me so sad to think the two characters with the most organic chemistry in the whole franchise may miss their chance to connect so I hold out hope

I really hope so too. I'm so tired of Blizzard constantly queerbaiting. There is certainly great chemistry between Alleria and Xal'atath. And with Alleria now single and Xal'atath having a chance at redemption due to her tragic backstory, maybe there's hope they'll end up together.

[Nymrohd]

I really hope so too. I'm so tired of Blizzard constantly queerbaiting. There is certainly great chemistry between Alleria and Xal'atath. And with Alleria now single and Xal'atath having a chance at redemption due to her tragic backstory, maybe there's hope they'll end up together.

Where is the queerbaiting? Just because people insist on crack ships which Blizzard actively dismantles does not mean they are queerbaiting. You are just baited by your own fantasy.

[BaumanKing]

Where is the queerbaiting? Just because people insist on crack ships which Blizzard actively dismantles does not mean they are queerbaiting. You are just baited by your own fantasy.

Please, don't think Blizzard's writers are stupid; they know exactly what they're doing here. Just watch any cutscene featuring Alleria and Xal'atath, and see how seductively Xal'atath acts toward Alleria, how constantly she is in close proximity to Alleria's body.

Blizzard's writers are 100% queerbaiting here.

[Nymrohd]

Please, don't think Blizzard's writers are stupid; they know exactly what they're doing here. Just watch any cutscene featuring Alleria and Xal'atath, and see how seductively Xal'atath acts toward Alleria, how constantly she is in close proximity to Alleria's body.

Blizzard's writers are 100% queerbaiting here.

Xal'atath does that to EVERYONE. That's her entire stick. It's why people have altars to her toes in their homes. Y'all thirsty for the void abomination.

[Civciv]

Please, don't think Blizzard's writers are stupid; they know exactly what they're doing here. Just watch any cutscene featuring Alleria and Xal'atath, and see how seductively Xal'atath acts toward Alleria, how constantly she is in close proximity to Alleria's body.

Blizzard's writers are 100% queerbaiting here.

As a queer person, I don't see how that's queerbaiting. Sexual tension between them? Sure, but definitely not queerbaiting.

[huth]

It's better to treat it like that then to basically keep mindlessly giving them money and threatening fellow players that you will spend more money

And most people don't. If they don't feel they get enough out of it, they just leave and do something else. There's other options that just the two extremels, you know.

[Alanar]

Please, don't think Blizzard's writers are stupid; they know exactly what they're doing here. Just watch any cutscene featuring Alleria and Xal'atath, and see how seductively Xal'atath acts toward Alleria, how constantly she is in close proximity to Alleria's body.

Blizzard's writers are 100% queerbaiting here.

Ye, no. Thats just Xal her character and she talks like that to all. People who root for this weird sexual realtionships, do that themselves, no one else. There is no queerbaiting (what a weird word even)

It would also be extra weird, if this whole suppose serious chase after eachother results in what you guys want. That storyline would go down as the worst one ever, if it isnt already lol. That would be the cherry on top honestly.

[Joshuaj]

Believing that N'zoth is truly gone is pure nonsense.

There are multiple hints pointing at his return, some of them very recent.

Oh yeah? Like what?

[Jaggler]

I REALLY don't see anything going on between Xal and Alleria lol.

[Auxis]

You can take things out of the Warband Bank by using either the Garrison Storehouse Banker or the Warband Bank Distance Inhibitor

Distance Inhibitor doesn't work. It just says 'This character does not have access to this bank.'

[Joshuaj]

Please, don't think Blizzard's writers are stupid; they know exactly what they're doing here. Just watch any cutscene featuring Alleria and Xal'atath, and see how seductively Xal'atath acts toward Alleria, how constantly she is in close proximity to Alleria's body.

Blizzard's writers are 100% queerbaiting here.

"Queerbaiting" She threatened Alleria on multiple occasions, destroyed areas and people she cared about, and used her in order to gain absolute power. Also, she talks that way to literally everyone, ESPECIALLY the players.

There is no "queerbaiting" involved here. She's a villain and she wants to torture Alleria. Simple as that.

[Nymrohd]

Distance Inhibitor doesn't work. It just says 'This character does not have access to this bank.'

Yeah just checked and it seems they have now properly disabled it, even garrison does not work

[KOUNTERPARTS]

Please, don't think Blizzard's writers are stupid; they know exactly what they're doing here. Just watch any cutscene featuring Alleria and Xal'atath, and see how seductively Xal'atath acts toward Alleria, how constantly she is in close proximity to Alleria's body.

Blizzard's writers are 100% queerbaiting here.

And you have accused Blizzard of queerbaiting 2 different times in the past, with the same "logic" you are using now, voicing it on this very forum and it amounted to nothing.

Blizzard is doing no such thing. You are 100% looking for queerbaiting because you so desperately want it to happen. Stop trying to force things that are not there.

[Darkarath]

Oh yeah? Like what?

The more recent one was in TWW.

The Lorewalking of Xal'athat shows that she made a pact with N'zoth when she was imprisoned in the Blade, leaving the other Old Gods oblivious.

Not only that, but N'zoth was building something in Ny'alotha, something that we still know nothing about.

Then we have his DF's cameo.

You can bet your ass that we'll hear more about him during Midnight and TLT.

BTW don't know if this has been posted yet, but since people were talking about player customization... It seems that we'll have to wait a bit yet. Definitively not in TLT.

https://frvr.com/blog/blizzard-confi...e-a-long-time/

[Hearthfinder]

Re: player customisation, it's pretty wild that they won't just commit some resources here and now to give players a few new options in coming patches, while also quietly working on a future mega update to the system.

It's not like giving Void Elves the Blood Elf hairstyles or giving Void Elf Demon Hunters some voidy options would require a lot of effort.

[Pyrophax]

Re: player customisation, it's pretty wild that they won't just commit some resources here and now to give players a few new options in coming patches, while also quietly working on a future mega update to the system.

It's not like giving Void Elves the Blood Elf hairstyles or giving Void Elf Demon Hunters some voidy options would require a lot of effort.

But you can't sell it as expansion feature this way.

[Ochinko]

Its been baffling people for 21 years now how blizzard tries with all their might to not give people (more) customization and freedom.

No extended customizations for classes / races (e.g. Glyphs, hairstyles, etc..)
No removal of arbitrary transmog restrictions. They used to play the "PvPers will get confused if a plate wearer is looking like hes wearing cloth armor, how will they be able to tell the class?!" (while they did add random and borderline skimpy outfits that can be used by everyone thus negating their very argument"
Refusal to "properly" utilize their cash shop to add loads of amazing mounts / outfits / anything to both satisfy players and also to fund WoWs and other games developement (remember the sparkle pony made more money than all SC2 sales?)

Whoever is in charge of their cosmetics department is incredibly inept in their job.

[Alanar]

But you can't sell it as expansion feature this way.

It would be way to typical if they would do this.

Selling excisting options from a race, slapped on a copy of that as NEW! The idea itself is bad, but knowing which race, certains fans who want this, makes it even worse.

We quite literally need NEW stuff at some point and not selling the same stuff, but blue. It just lacks in quality as well.