Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Boomer Thor]

That's exactly what I'm talking about. Suramar doesn't matter to the MSQ unless it's about why they haven't responded to the Voidstorm yet, and it sounds like that will be part of the story.

The other one (Parhelion Plaza) is because it only happens when the Void takes over the Sunwell.

Oh, i didnt do either on beta so i just thought it was something else. Hope the feedback on the suramar one is good coz they should use the old world for delves 1000%

[milkmustache]

I just realized we don't have access to the Suramar delve yet. I think it's possible that they are going to confirm that the Horde factions have actually all been busy with their own shit and that's why we don't get in touch with Thalyssra yet during the leveling campaign.

In all fairness, she's currently in the Sunfury Spire. Doesn't excuse the rest of the Horde vanguard.

[Thros]

i'm not confused at all. I just question if things are set up to mislead us. Like, things are obviously coded in similar things, yet nothing is clearly said "yup, thats azerite, yup thats Azeroth". It feeds into the whole uncertainty of all the NPCs about what is at the core of Azeroth, at what Sargeras aimed. The obvious and simple answer is of course Azeroth. But no single in game NPC confirmed it. Like, no one at all. The closest would be Magni, and even his account is a bit suspicous.

Also, dude, calm down. This is a fun Speculation thread. Let me speculate.

Okay occam razor time
Halduron acknowledges Aln'hara as Azeroth in a dialogue. The Chimaerus alndust related spells are with the Azerite icons and with Azerite sound effects. The gift of Aln'hara icon has the same colors as Azerite. The Alndust and Azerite both have references to be part of the goddess of creation. Orweyna, for all intents and purposes is our new world soul speaker in place of Magni, so she knows and doesn't allude to anything otherwise of Alndust/Aln'hara.

And the only doubt you cast about Halduron not mentioning the Azerite node is because either he didn't see it or at the time he didn't think to make the connection between alndust and Azerite, nor did he see it and yell "Hey, I haven't seen this since the last war it's powerful, we should use it."

[Nightshade711]

The only one I find hard to believe is Moira. Just because that has huge implications for the dwarves. Calia would be shocking for sure, but it doesn't actually change anything about the Forsaken story or its trajectory

I’m not surprised in the slightest. I knew that she wasn’t long for this world the second they reintroduced Dagran AND they updated the Ironforge guard armor for seemingly no reason. They gotta make conflict & character development happen somehow - I’m sure there will be conflict since he’s the heir to the Bronzebeard AND Dark Iron.

[Limayria]

Okay occam razor time
Halduron acknowledges Aln'hara as Azeroth in a dialogue. The Chimaerus alndust related spells are with the Azerite icons and with Azerite sound effects. The gift of Aln'hara icon has the same colors as Azerite. The Alndust and Azerite both have references to be part of the goddess of creation. Orweyna, for all intents and purposes is our new world soul speaker in place of Magni, so she knows and doesn't allude to anything otherwise of Alndust/Aln'hara.

Also the reason we need to gather aln dust is because the elders (who control the stock pile) don't wanna share, maybe that big azertite shard is part of the alndust stockpile and that's why no one mentions it

[Cheezits]

In all fairness, she's currently in the Sunfury Spire. Doesn't excuse the rest of the Horde vanguard.

I genuinely think that may be an oversight as there are no quests to go up there currently.

[Ersula]

WoW microtransaction transmog/cosmetics being butt-ugly = Heaven

Diablo 4 microtransation transmog/cosmets being beautiful = Hell

[Civciv]

WoW microtransaction transmog/cosmetics being butt-ugly = Heaven

Diablo 4 microtransation transmog/cosmets being beautiful = Hell

I mean... Spring Blossom Decor Set and New mount bundle look gorgeous af. I'd buy them in a heartbeat if they weren't expensive. Kobold set is hideous tho...

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I love onesies, still mad we don't got Race Themed/Alliance and Horde ones yet but we're getting closer. I am happy if Gnolls are next but lets' see what the next one will be.

[damonskye]

So literally shoved in the closet while the world is ending, nice.

Dude was literally disintegrated and stored in the Dark Heart, I think we can give him the time to recover.

[Lahis]

The only one I find hard to believe is Moira. Just because that has huge implications for the dwarves. Calia would be shocking for sure, but it doesn't actually change anything about the Forsaken story or its trajectory

Emperor Dagran Thaurissan II has just become of age.

[Joszef Kiprich]

Wasn't Suramar mentioned as point of interest in the side quest about the blood elves still dealing in fel?

[Reive]

WoW microtransaction transmog/cosmetics being butt-ugly = Heaven

Diablo 4 microtransation transmog/cosmets being beautiful = Hell

diablo is buy to play tho while wow has the full set of micro and macro transactions. diablo is also on an upward trend in terms of content and the cinematics are actually great.

[Boomer Thor]

WoW microtransaction transmog/cosmetics being butt-ugly = Heaven

Diablo 4 microtransation transmog/cosmets being beautiful = Hell

they are priced the same which makes it both equally kinda ridiculous.

like 25 bucks for a fucking race change?! that should be 7-10 at most.

[Nightshade711]

Inb4 Dawnwell becomes charged by Azeroth somehow.
Void/high/blood elves then rename themselves to Aln’dorei (children of Azeroth)

[Wazooty]

Inb4 Dawnwell becomes charged by Azeroth somehow.
Void/high/blood elves then rename themselves to Aln’dorei (children of Azeroth)

Aren't elves (broadly) kinda almost literally that, though?

[Limayria]

Wasn't Suramar mentioned as point of interest in the side quest about the blood elves still dealing in fel?

Yes they mention that someone is likely scavenging left over fel items from the broken isle (broken shore might be called out specifically idr)

Aren't elves (broadly) kinda almost literally that, though?

Id go as far as saying in the warcraft setting "elf" is generic trope to refer to the chosen of a world soul ie any uplifted by its power, so kareshi, Draenei, and the dorei's (ren/sin/kael/quel) are all "elves" tied to different world souls

Aln'dorei is pretty sick as a name though

[Boomer Thor]

Inb4 Dawnwell becomes charged by Azeroth somehow.
Void/high/blood elves then rename themselves to Aln’dorei (children of Azeroth)

First sentence was kinda hinted at before the spoilers was datamined... wouldnt rule it out as it was kinda hinted that azeroth used the light to talk to liadrin in the intro

2nd one I can see blizzard doing... it would rather be fitting with elven arrogance and pride (something that they are lacking and should have)...

not implying it would be a good thing.

[Nightshade711]

First sentence was kinda hinted at before the spoilers was datamined... wouldnt rule it out as it was kinda hinted that azeroth used the light to talk to liadrin in the intro

2nd one I can see blizzard doing... it would rather be fitting with elven arrogance and pride (something that they are lacking and should have)...

not implying it would be a good thing.

Knowing Blizzard they’d make the Silvermoon government a council too and never have another regent or king.

[Cheezits]

Murder Row not being a part of Season 1 does point towards Ula'tek having to do with Fel. Because it's the Warlock/Demon dungeon.