Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[milkmustache]

Murder Row not being a part of Season 1 does point towards Ula'tek having to do with Fel. Because it's the Warlock/Demon dungeon.

Damn. Phenomenal call. Please god Blizzard, if you give us fel content, give us more Draenei content.

[Joshuaj]

Damn. Phenomenal call. Please god Blizzard, if you give us fel content, give us more Draenei content.

The rise of Demon content in Midnight does make me wonder if they're building up for not just Sargeras's return in TLT, but also a future Demon-focused expac.

[Boomer Thor]

remember we are in the non-canon timeline

the canon timeline ended like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilHROkpf5PY

jokes aside the canon timeline is the one where Garithos takes over the human campaign in wc3

Oh and I am serious I dont consider anything post legion canon. Blizzard have had multiple opportunities to purge their universe but has not taken any action.

hard reset.

[Monkal]

remember we are in the non-canon timeline

the canon timeline ended like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilHROkpf5PY

jokes aside the canon timeline is the one where Garithos takes over the human campaign in wc3

Oh and I am serious I dont consider anything post legion canon. Blizzard have had multiple opportunities to purge their universe but has not taken any action.

hard reset.

BT please go to bed.

[Cheezits]

Damn. Phenomenal call. Please god Blizzard, if you give us fel content, give us more Draenei content.

Also the Arena Dungeon has a poison monster and that's not in S1. Nalorakk would fit because troll season and then the 4th will be the new dungeon. I'll go all in on two of the old dungeons being Atal'dazar (troll, poison) and Plaguefall (green, poison). Then an old demon dungeon (Legion?) and free space.

[Limayria]

Also the Arena Dungeon has a poison monster and that's not in S1. Nalorakk would fit because troll season and then the 4th will be the new dungeon. I'll go all in on two of the old dungeons being Atal'dazar (troll, poison) and Plaguefall (green, poison). Then an old demon dungeon (Legion?) and free space.

maybe we'll get ZG back as a 5 man

[Joshuaj]

remember we are in the non-canon timeline

the canon timeline ended like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilHROkpf5PY

jokes aside the canon timeline is the one where Garithos takes over the human campaign in wc3

Oh and I am serious I dont consider anything post legion canon. Blizzard have had multiple opportunities to purge their universe but has not taken any action.

hard reset.

You're free to not accept anything post-Legion as canon, but that doesn't mean it's not canon as a whole.

[Enrif]

Knowing Blizzard they’d make the Silvermoon government a council too and never have another regent or king.

technically, Silvermoon was a council since TBC. Regent Lord, Ranger General, Grand Magister, and later on Blood Knight Matriarch. In a main quests Rommath outright says to Lor'themar that only he has the right over Magisters, not Lor'themar

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Okay occam razor time
Halduron acknowledges Aln'hara as Azeroth in a dialogue. The Chimaerus alndust related spells are with the Azerite icons and with Azerite sound effects. The gift of Aln'hara icon has the same colors as Azerite. The Alndust and Azerite both have references to be part of the goddess of creation. Orweyna, for all intents and purposes is our new world soul speaker in place of Magni, so she knows and doesn't allude to anything otherwise of Alndust/Aln'hara.

And the only doubt you cast about Halduron not mentioning the Azerite node is because either he didn't see it or at the time he didn't think to make the connection between alndust and Azerite, nor did he see it and yell "Hey, I haven't seen this since the last war it's powerful, we should use it."

If all of this is just Azeroth, it would be rather plain and boring.

[Jaggler]

I wonder if the Light-infused Sunwell has been slowly "lightforging" the Blood Elves, which could explain their rather sudden opposition to anything shady (void magic, fel magic, death magic)and their (at times) zealotry with the light and with the Sunwell gone, they can revert back to a bit of their old selves like Astalor. At least that's my hopium :P

[Reive]

once again wow is trending online for all the wrong reasons

/facepalm

[Lahis]

maybe we'll get ZG back as a 5 man

ZG would be pretty long for M+. 5 bosses and who know how much trash.

[allegrian]

Going to a fel patch in the void expansion feels a bit desperate, like blizzard doesn't trust the void to be as interesting as a villain as fel was during legion or something.

[Eldryth]

If all of this is just Azeroth, it would be rather plain and boring.

I have to disagree. This Saga is supposed to be about the Worldsoul, and we're already 1/3 of the way through without learning nearly enough about her- or engaging with her at all beyond the Radiant Song (which wasn't used nearly enough if it's meant to remain our main interaction with Azeroth). Using Harandar to build on her lore, and set up the big Titan conspiracy more before TLT, would help the story far more than a twist for the sake of a twist- that they probably wouldn't have time to do justice to given how many other major threats we already know we have to deal with right now.

Making the Rift of Aln creatures the result of the Titans' conspiracy- from them moving Azeroth from the Cradle to the Worldcore- would help set up TLT, and fit the current storyline far better than more dead Old God antics.

[Enrif]

I wonder if the Light-infused Sunwell has been slowly "lightforging" the Blood Elves, which could explain their rather sudden opposition to anything shady (void magic, fel magic, death magic)and their (at times) zealotry with the light and with the Sunwell gone, they can revert back to a bit of their old selves like Astalor. At least that's my hopium :P

you know, that would actually be a interesting twist. And also explain the unwarranted hostility towards the alliance we see, even though there is barely any alliance presence

[Pyrophax]

you know, that would actually be a interesting twist. And also explain the unwarranted hostility towards the alliance we see, even though there is barely any alliance presence

Dwarf quest near Lorthemar perfectly explain this. Twillight doomsayers provoke natives. Humans confiscate food without a word to locals. Humans decide to start witch-hunt for any Void or Fel user acting like authority in Horde city. Hm, I think where does this hostility come from?
Start stupid things - win stupid prizes, I guess.

[Jaggler]

you know, that would actually be a interesting twist. And also explain the unwarranted hostility towards the alliance we see, even though there is barely any alliance presence

Hostility towards Alliance presence is probably the least of the oddities there. There are good reasons for that. It's still a Horde city. If you had orcs and Trolls running around Stormwind i would also expect hostilities towards them.

[Boomer Thor]

Hostility towards Alliance presence s probably the least of the oddities there. There are good reasons for that. It's still a Horde city. If you had orcs and Trolls running around Stormwind i would also expect hostilities towards them.

This is nu-wow its friendship core and buy the store stuff now

[Bozzoltank]

Murder Row not being a part of Season 1 does point towards Ula'tek having to do with Fel. Because it's the Warlock/Demon dungeon.

On a completely separate note: I love that dungeon. It is, by far, the most fun I've had in any of the eight Midnight dungeons we've got. It's perfectly thematic to warlocks and demons, has all these fun details, like the fighting ring, working a shift in the club, and Doom killing a player if it isn't dispelled in time.

[allegrian]

There are almost no horde races in Silvermoon because blizzard knows that High/Blood elves in the Horde make no sense thematically, and neither do monster horde races in Silvermoon. It would be immersion breaking for most players, to be inside a magestic magic elf city... full of orcs, trolls and zombies.

Zul'Aman is where the tribal horde theme is played, even if they're not officially horde (for now).

[Super Dickmann]

I wonder if the Light-infused Sunwell has been slowly "lightforging" the Blood Elves, which could explain their rather sudden opposition to anything shady (void magic, fel magic, death magic)and their (at times) zealotry with the light and with the Sunwell gone, they can revert back to a bit of their old selves like Astalor. At least that's my hopium :P

A big miss of the story and one that'll only get worse when the Darkwell goes around, that it largely inherited from the Nightborne cop-out at the end of Nighthold is that the story is uninterested in the addiction element. Blood Elves' connection to the Sunwell is skipped, where surely all of them should've been irradiated ala the Lightbloom and then ditto the Darkwell should make a lot more void elves. By the time we hit the Rainbow Well, putting the Arcan'dor well is yet another way to skip the consequences of a given plot point, where it would've been the perfect excuse to revert to the vampiric characterization of them which only current Astalor has represented from TBC onwards. Though he does do a very solid job of it.