Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Nymrohd]

Maybe the Undersea is actually a titanic cooling system for the Worldcore.

The Titans are just powering their datacenters

[milkmustache]

So Northrend is totally going to have some sort of large Gnarldin/Djaradin group presence right?

I could imagine them being aligned with Iridikron (as a former elemental giant race) along with some Magnataur vs. the Titan & Titanforged vs. the Players & Vyrkul/Keepers?

[Ersula]

So Northrend is totally going to have some sort of large Gnarldin/Djaradin group presence right?

I could imagine them being aligned with Iridikron (as a former elemental giant race) along with some Magnataur vs. the Titan & Titanforged vs. the Players & Vyrkul/Keepers?

I mean, it would explain a lot. Gnarldin are a connection between Djaradin & Giants. Most minions of the Titans were Titan-forged but there were a few giants & now we know giants aren't titandforged, so we need some explanation for that.

[Lermric]

I have been following the conversation with respect to the "Skyborne," and I'm wondering if this is Blizzard's version of a united High Elf/Blood Elf/Void Elf neutral allied race. Follow my logic for a second, the Nightborne originate from the Nightwell. From the datamines, we know that the Sunwell will become the Dawnwell. Ergo, Skyborne originates from the Dawnwell.

[Dvalin]

I doubt the Undersea was meant as a (patch-)zone for TWW, or the Worldsoul Saga.

The Naga bits could also be for post-TLT expansion-ideas.

[Ersula]

I have been following the conversation with respect to the "Skyborne," and I'm wondering if this is Blizzard's version of a united High Elf/Blood Elf/Void Elf neutral allied race. Follow my logic for a second, the Nightborne originate from the Nightwell. From the datamines, we know that the Sunwell will become the Dawnwell. Ergo, Skyborne originates from the Dawnwell.

What does that have to do with the sky? I saw the skyborne stuff & it doesn't look elfin at all. People are comparing it to generic elf stuff which has always had a bird motif, but otherwise don't look at all alike. If anything the Skyborne stuff is connected to the Tauren religious stuff coming at the same time.

[Nymrohd]

Have to say, for a staple fantasy race, giants have been underused in Warcraft. Like, we could have had the Incarnates be giants instead of more dragons. Giants vs Dragons is a classic theme

[Lahis]

This game rakes in billions of dollars per year in $50 box purchase expansions, $180 yearly subscriptions, and $90 brutosaur mounts. Surely Blizzard could assign a few modellers and animators to make the player faces cutscene ready.

As physics currently stand, infinite money still does not buy infinite time.

Animating every single player race model and face bu hand for every curscene would take more manhours than the expansion has in its animation pipeline.

If you find a way to throw money to time to break it, I'm sure Blizzard and dozen other industries will be interested in your solution.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

As physics currently stand, infinite money still does not buy infinite time.

Animating every single player race model and face bu hand for every curscene would take more manhours than the expansion has in its animation pipeline.

FF14 does it by having much better stock animations to use, and BG3 with motion capture.

[DenPhoenix]

It’s really cool that after the draenei quests in Voidstorm, Tul'amar comes to our camp, and you can actually talk to her normally through an NPC spell if you’re not playing as eredar race.

I love little details like that.

[Joszef Kiprich]

So what's the deal with the Kobyss in Zul'Aman?

[Eldryth]

It’s really cool that after the draenei quests in Voidstorm, Tul'amar comes to our camp, and you can actually talk to her normally through an NPC spell if you’re not playing as eredar race.

I love little details like that.

They paid so much attention to detail in that questline. It's not just "you can understand them if you're a Draenei"; there's a bunch of different ways that you can speak to them, and the questline acknowledges what you're using. If you're a Draenei, you can understand everything, of course. If you're a Warlock (maybe DH too?), then the quest giver switches to Demonic to speak to you and you can understand the quest text, but you can't understand all the other NPCs. Apparently if you're a Mage with Arcane Linguist, she acknowledges it and you can understand her too.

[Limayria]

They paid so much attention to detail in that questline. It's not just "you can understand them if you're a Draenei"; there's a bunch of different ways that you can speak to them, and the questline acknowledges what you're using. If you're a Draenei, you can understand everything, of course. If you're a Warlock (maybe DH too?), then the quest giver switches to Demonic to speak to you and you can understand the quest text, but you can't understand all the other NPCs. Apparently if you're a Mage with Arcane Linguist, she acknowledges it and you can understand her too.

Imagine if they said fuck the raid/dungeon/gear focus and committed to make bg3 style epic quest lines with reactivity and companions lol

I think that'd be a really cool way to preserve wow tbh, making it into a single player RPG in the future

She does speak demonic to demon hunters which is cool I actually was so inmeresed in that quest line I was imagining what my character would be saying to this poor woman mostly things like

"Hey me and my boys have a space ship"

[rainhard]

So what's the deal with the Kobyss in Zul'Aman?

Underwater delve/dung or underwater zone hint? Or a plot that will come with the diving event.

[Khaza-R]

They literally just removed the water part of the underwater delves in TWW and people think they're going to make a whole new zone based off that?

Absolutely not happening.

[SaintBigfoot]

So what's the deal with the Kobyss in Zul'Aman?

They're teaching Murlocs necromancy, and attempting to take them over, might be allied with the Vilebranch, but not much more than that currently.

[Limayria]

They literally just removed the water part of the underwater delves in TWW and people think they're going to make a whole new zone based off that?

Absolutely not happening.

Tbf underwater delves sucked for reasons besides being underwater, you couldn't even swim in them so they were just regular delves that disabled glide for demon hunters and had the annoying breath/candle mechanic

[KayserB]

Regarding the Amani as an allied race, there’s one detail I’ve never seen anyone here discuss. It’s the fact that Ion slipped up during Gamescom. He referred to pangolins as the bear form for the Haranir... Except that the Haranir’s bear form is a Tasmanian devil/wolverine, and pangolins are only found in Zul’Aman with a pangolin loa...
Not to mention the fact that the next patch/raid is clearly the Troll Isle to the east, and Zul’Aman is the only zone without armor, etc....

[Cheezits]

Regarding the Amani as an allied race, there’s one detail I’ve never seen anyone here discuss. It’s the fact that Ion slipped up during Gamescom. He referred to pangolins as the bear form for the Haranir... Except that the Haranir’s bear form is a Tasmanian devil/wolverine, and pangolins are only found in Zul’Aman with a pangolin loa...
Not to mention the fact that the next patch/raid is clearly the Troll Isle to the east, and Zul’Aman is the only zone without armor, etc....

The thing is that the Haranir Quillbear uses the same animations as the pangolin, which is possibly the reason for the mixup. It would stand to reason an Amani Druid would use a bear for their form because they worship Nalorakk.

[SaintBigfoot]

I am suspicious of this gap