Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Khaza-R]

It feels a bit too soon since BfA for pirate stuff, honestly. I know that Alliance-side at least it wasn't really pirate-y but still it had a fair amount of nautical themes and could stand to not have that for a while still.

If its for the next expansion I don't really see the issue. That's two expansions between them. Same as the Old God and faction war stuff from MoP -> BfA.

[Makabreska]

It feels a bit too soon since BfA for pirate stuff, honestly. I know that Alliance-side at least it wasn't really pirate-y but still it had a fair amount of nautical themes and could stand to not have that for a while still.

Eh, not really. Less than half of the zone for one faction only and two dungeons, all that three expansions ago. They didn't have problem with WoD to Legion BL theme. Not to mention that pirate thingy does not even have to be really strong in the future.

[Cheezits]

BFA had a pirate town in one corner of the map, one dungeon (which was the same town), and one tiny quest hub for Horde on the other side. I would not say that "nautical theme" means that Pirates can't and shouldn't be a focus ever again.

[Kiivar86]

If its for the next expansion I don't really see the issue. That's two expansions between them. Same as the Old God and faction war stuff from MoP -> BfA.

Eh, not really. Less than half of the zone for one faction only and two dungeons, all that three expansions ago. They didn't have problem with WoD to Legion BL theme. Not to mention that pirate thingy does not even have to be really strong in the future.

Eh I suppose. Just my own immediate reaction to that was to groan internally. I like pirate stuff usually but it just feels too soon.

I'd rather something else.

[Nathanyel]

I'll say again that it's wrong to assume "Pirates!" is even a major theme. Might just be one or two areas, a dungeon like Freehold, while the main theme of the expansion is something entirely different.

[Nymrohd]

I'll say again that it's wrong to assume "Pirates!" is even a major theme.

Now add Ninjas and we might have something

[Foolicious]

I'll say again that it's wrong to assume "Pirates!" is even a major theme. Might just be one or two areas, a dungeon like Freehold, while the main theme of the expansion is something entirely different.

We have seen Pirates led by an (infinite)dragon maybe they are doing something with that but i agree that they are not enough to carry a significant portion of an expansion.
They are just the type of enemy that pops up from time to time under new leadership so we have something else to fight than (insert expansion main theme).

[Makabreska]

World of Warcraft - Attack of the Ninjas

There is nothing in lore that points to something like that.

Dark Rangers could have been a thing in Shadowlands.

Dark POWER Rangers. Now that' something I would see..

[Nathanyel]

They are just the type of enemy that pops up from time to time under new leadership so we have something else to fight than (insert expansion main theme).

Enemy... or even friend. The Horde aligns with 2 significant factions of pirates during BfA:

During the War Campaign, a pact is made with the Fogsail to use their port as a staging ground for attacks on Kul Tiras, and while that pact probably had to be ended for the armistice after the Fourth War, there might still be friendly relations with the Freebooters.

In Vol'dun, the Horde Adventurer assisted in another mutiny, helping Jamboya and his comrades free themselves from the rule of their Pirate-King, who had cursed them into undeath. They now sail the seas, having replenished their crew (unclear whether with mortals or survivors of their former crew, now free from the King's control)
Jamboya and a small band can be seen visiting the Trader's Post, so they still have good enough relations with the Horde to visit Orgrimmar.

[Sondrelk]

BFA had a pirate town in one corner of the map, one dungeon (which was the same town), and one tiny quest hub for Horde on the other side. I would not say that "nautical theme" means that Pirates can't and shouldn't be a focus ever again.

BfA was pretty light on the whole nautical theme anyways. Only a single raid had ships as a featured theme, and the last patch was set in a landlocked valley and a desert.

[Grimbold21]

Possibly OT, but is there a list of grey items in the game?

[Makabreska]

Possibly OT, but is there a list of grey items in the game?

https://www.wowhead.com/items/quality:0

[loras]

World of Warcraft - Attack of the Ninjas

There is nothing in lore that points to something like that.

Dark Rangers could have been a thing in Shadowlands.

Which is exactly why it will happen anyway.

[Nymrohd]

World of Warcraft - Attack of the Ninjas

There is nothing in lore that points to something like that.

Dark Rangers could have been a thing in Shadowlands.

the idea was more of Pirates Vs Ninjas, WoW edition. Though we should find a way to add zombies and dinosaurs as well. and yes this is all a joke, obviously a poor one

[Lahis]

Indeed, and all them them use very widely used mount rigs.

They can expand the DR animations to every mount that shares their rig.
Literally every Proto-Drake, Proto-Drake adjacent, Drake, Drake adjacent, Wyvern, Wyvern adjacent and Pterrodax, Pterrodax adjacent mount.

Not Drakes. Highland Drake uses completely differentr skeleton than the old drake mounts.

[Ringthane]

Lol, big yikes. Ozruk was well known during Cata and ppl still put his quotes as one of the most memorable in WoW history. Hell, he probably killed more players alltogether than Morchok. He still does during timewalking.

You may not remember him, but saying he's unmemorable is pure contrarianism.

Really? Let's talk about memorable quotes.

"You are not prepared!"

"By fire be purged!"

"Too soon! You have awakened me too soon, Executus!"

"Thrall's balls!"

Which ones of those did Ozruk say, again?

[Makabreska]

Not Drakes. Highland Drake uses completely differentr skeleton than the old drake mounts.

Even if so, all the others are not. Zero chances DR will be scrapped past DF. It's wildly popular and improves old system greatly. "It's DF feature" argument holds zero weight, when crapton of other expansion features made it to the core game, simply becasue they were good.

[Raetary]

Really? Let's talk about memorable quotes.

"You are not prepared!"

"By fire be purged!"

"Too soon! You have awakened me too soon, Executus!"

"Thrall's balls!"

Which ones of those did Ozruk say, again?

None of those, as those weren't his lines.
His iconic line was 'Break yourself upon my body! Feel the strength of the Earth!'

[Zulggun]

Really? Let's talk about memorable quotes.

"You are not prepared!"

"By fire be purged!"

"Too soon! You have awakened me too soon, Executus!"

"Thrall's balls!"

Which ones of those did Ozruk say, again?

Are you trying to say these were the only 4 memorable quotes from the game?

[Teriz]

I can’t see a scenario where Blizzard has a Yrel invasion and a Pirate expansion, and goes with Pirates. Especially given the anniversaries of WoD and WoW coming up for the next expansion.