Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Raetary]

Any chance we can add a goblin with an immortal Joe mask riding the train? For the gadgetzan tanaris mad max speculation.

The Mad Max set is on the Tuskarr, cooking the copium soup.

[Nibelheimy]

The Mad Max set is on the Tuskarr, cooking the copium soup.

No problem I just noticed that part! I shall get my brain sizzling with further speculations.

[Santandame]

The only Taylor Swift complaint should be that we’re using Debut/Fearless era Taylor instead of Midnights.

That’s the true sacrilege here.

[Dracullus]

If the capital cities get radically revamped alongside the old world next expansion, what would you like to see?

- A dock in Orgrimmar?
- New districts added to Stormwind or changes ti current ones?
- Stormwind Vaults?
- Underhold in Orgrimmar being accessible?
- Expanding further into the depths of Ironforge?
- The Darkspears building a city on the Echo Isles or turning Sen’jin Village into a major port town?
- Exodar in the sky with a more modern Draenei city/town below it in the style of Shattrath from WoD?

For capitals definitely district for each playable race, some grouped together of course. I doubt other cities would get much love if we get full world revamp at once. Remember how current WoW works, you don't spend month leveling and travel is quick - people will stick to capital and major hub no matter what.

If 11.0 is partial revamp, imo Thrall on keyart and kodo shop mount out of blue suggest Kalimdor. In this case I would expect complete Orgrimmar revamp + Amirdrassil made as Alliance capital from scratch. Thunder Bluff and Exodar could be patch hubs for 11.1 and 11.2.

Then in 12.0 we could have EK revamp. Stormwind and Silvermoon City for capitals (this time Horde would get new city, cause current Silvermoon is just few corridors), Ironforge and Lordaeron/Gilneas for patches.

[Raetary]

The only Taylor Swift complaint should be that we’re using Debut/Fearless era Taylor instead of Midnights.

That’s the true sacrilege here.

Actually we are not using any real taylor, it's some AI image i got from google by searching 'Taylor Swift Pirate'

[AOL Instant Messenger]

So, here's something. Ybarra ruled out pirates, but he's said nothing about privateers.

[Santandame]

Actually we are not using any real taylor, it's some AI image i got from google by searching 'Taylor Swift Pirate'

Even worse sacrilege.

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For capitals definitely district for each playable race, some grouped together of course. I doubt other cities would get much love if we get full world revamp at once. Remember how current WoW works, you don't spend month leveling and travel is quick - people will stick to capital and major hub no matter what.

If 11.0 is partial revamp, imo Thrall on keyart and kodo shop mount out of blue suggest Kalimdor. In this case I would expect complete Orgrimmar revamp + Amirdrassil made as Alliance capital from scratch. Thunder Bluff and Exodar could be patch hubs for 11.1 and 11.2.

Then in 12.0 we could have EK revamp. Stormwind and Silvermoon City for capitals (this time Horde would get new city, cause current Silvermoon is just few corridors), Ironforge and Lordaeron/Gilneas for patches.

I could see a Goblin Rocketway track from the Goblin Slums in Org to Bilgewater Harbour.

Also a district in Org that highlights all of the various Orc clans.

[Nymrohd]

Even worse sacrilege.

Look, no one has yet bothered to use the wonders of generative image technology to give us a proper fucking leak yet. We got to do something worthwhile with it.

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So, here's something. Ybarra ruled out pirates, but he's said nothing about privateers.

Who needs pirates when you can have the East Lordaeron Company colonize Avaloren and get the locals to kill each other while we loot all their gear

[Rezzyk]

So, here's something. Ybarra ruled out pirates, but he's said nothing about privateers.

Yup! I mean we could be privateers. Buccaneers. The usual adventurers. "Pirates" are baddies, we wouldn't be pirates.

Also there are like, pirates in every expansion in the game (I think don't quote me on this). It would take effort to make sure no side quests in a new expansion include any pirates haha.

[Revamp Man]

After SL that only makes sense if both Calia and Bolvar got hit with a some form of selective amnesia to not remember each other.

Shame of being an undead
Then there's Bolvar not knowing her name and being separated for decades

I'm still waiting for an explanation for calia being there in SL

[Hitei]

No, but a completely new continent with old racial areas, when the old world and factions are in desperate need of updates, would suck IMO.

I want to know what's going on with Gilneas, not New Gilneas. I want to see how the Plaguelands have progressed, not a New Blood Elf town on Avaloren.

I'd be fine with Avaloren/Whatever having racial areas, but not as a replacement for a revamp. If they treat a new continent as EK/Kalimdor 3.0 I'm done.

What is the hypothetical difference here? Like what makes a new continent with racial areas "EK Kalimdor 3.0" vs just being a new continent with racial areas? That the Horde and Alliance are attempting to settle the continent?

Is green plaguelands or Gilneas but repopulated with NPCs and the destroyed houses fixed really more interesting than a whole new Blood Elf town on some different continent with its own novel stories and problems? I don't even like Highmountain, but I can tell you that the HM questline, learning about the different tribes and seeing their villages and exploring the mountains and caves was a lot more interesting than whatever the Bloodhoof are going to be doing in a nicer looking version of Mulgore.

[Revamp Man]

Yeah, I would still be shocked if this doesn't end up being true.
Sure there are inconsistencies in how Calia and Bolvar act, but nothing that cannot be handwaved away with "didn't know what to say", or "it wasn't the right time to tell you".
It just makes til much sense to have Talia be the heir to Lordaeron, and therefore a fitting match for Anduin to marry given they are a similar age and easy to make work romantically.

Tbh that seemed like what they were going for in BfA when those two met

[Mecheon]

If the capital cities get radically revamped alongside the old world next expansion, what would you like to see?

- A dock in Orgrimmar?
- New districts added to Stormwind or changes ti current ones?
- Stormwind Vaults?
- Underhold in Orgrimmar being accessible?
- Expanding further into the depths of Ironforge?
- The Darkspears building a city on the Echo Isles or turning Sen’jin Village into a major port town?
- Exodar in the sky with a more modern Draenei city/town below it in the style of Shattrath from WoD?

Using more of Orgrimmar's vertical space for more stuff. Carve out the side of Valley of Honour and continue that to the ocean for a dock and some sort of other district.
Likewise, Stormwind can use some of its vertical space. Give us a new Park district now that the NElf refugees are a thing. We miss that moonwell and eternally empty tavern, the RPers have been suffering ever since Cata

[Kiivar86]

Pity the person (me) who doesn't read for a day and comes back to like 20 pages. And I can only imagine how its gonna ramp up when we get closer too.

Anyway, Exodar's kinda been cannibalized a lot for the Vindicaar right? Could still be repaired though.

I'd like a full on embassy district for Stormwind, would be neat.

[Ersula]

The Exodar can't fly rn no? Hence why the Vindicaar was made?

Not sure. That's one of the things a world revamp might address.

The Justicar was the other ship that fled Argus at the same time the Exodar did. They never found a world to settle on.

[Ebonn]

Not sure. That's one of the things a world revamp might address.

The Justicar was the other ship that fled Argus at the same time the Exodar did. They never found a world to settle on.

Currently, yes, it’s been stated to be beyond repair. However with all this time passed and new Naaru around, who originally designed those types of ships, I believe it’s very possible it could fly again. But that would ruin a lot of story, because if they could use it again, it could take them anywhere in the universe in the blink of an eye.

But I don’t think Justicar is a ship. Xenedar and Genedar fled from Argus. Xenedar stayed under Army of the Light control, Genedar crashed. Draenei then took the Exodar from Tempest Keep to take it to Azeroth.

[Nerdslime]

Reaching back a page or so regarding races: what do yall think of there being any chance that the next race to be added does the Pandaren neutrality thing again? For the record I don't particularly think we need any new races at the moment, but I didn't see this possibility brought up, so...

[Luck4]

Forget the damaged/broken ships. This is what the Draenei needs and deserves:

[Hitei]

Reaching back a page or so regarding races: what do yall think of there being any chance that the next race to be added does the Pandaren neutrality thing again? For the record I don't particularly think we need any new races at the moment, but I didn't see this possibility brought up, so...

I think it's just that Ogres are generally understood to be one of the far and away most likely additions and they're so dedicatedly Horde. There's also the Jinyu rumblings, which are very Alliance.

Often Ethereal are brought up as a neutral option. Naga sometimes as well.

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What the hell is the Justicar and the Cenedar? Do they even exist? Lol Cause I never heard of them in my life.

X is next to C.

[Ebonn]

What the hell is the Justicar and the Cenedar? Do they even exist? Lol Cause I never heard of them in my life.

Like I said, Justicar is not a ship. Cenedar was a typo, obviously right before it I named the Xenedar.

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Forget the damaged/broken ships. This is what the Draenei needs and deserves:

Seconded!!!