Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Teriz]

People should keep in mind that we might not get a new race next expansion. We didn't get a new race after Pandarens in MoP for example, and we just got the Dracthyr in Dragonflight.

That might also make a neutral Ethereal race in 11.0 unlikely.

[Cheezits]

People should keep in mind that we might not get a new race next expansion. We didn't get a new race after Pandarens in MoP for example, and we just got the Dracthyr in Dragonflight.

After we got a spec in a mid-patch I think anything can happen now. I'm mostly basing the race ideas off Jinyu in the files of 10.0 and the Broken hint in 10.1.7. And races are more likely than classes at this point.

[Santandame]

I think we're on to something here. The cave stuff is probably legit, but I doubt it's an entire expansion, and it runs counter to all the boats and water hints unless we are sailing to a cave (Kezan/Undermine). Even then... Jinyu for a cave expansion?

However, an expansion with Naga AND a big cave would work, and fits with Iridikron and the void antagonist set-up if we are getting zones themed to the Old Gods.

I’m sort of convinced by the Voidstorm leak. It has pretty much everything that fits based off what’s been datamined and leaked, where the story is heading and what seems to be relevant.

It features boats of which we’ve seen datamined, it references an underwater plus Undermine which Towellie has hinted at as well as the terrarium. This was posted as a leak way before we got those hints too.

Also references Tel’Abim and Nightsquall which have both been seeded in Dragonflight, K’aresh; we have the eco domes datamined, plus Azshara as the main villain who has been referenced as working behind the scenes with the void in DF, plus whatever Iridikron’s doing.

As well as the main campaign featuring Thrall as the main character.

I just think it’s important to note that it references an underwater zone AND an underground zone, and was posted before we got the Towellie hints regarding content being underground and beneath water.

Of course it likely means nothing and is the same as any other leak, but it’s the one that makes the most sense to me and it sounds like an awesome expansion too.

[Raetary]

I'd rather they pull another Shadowlands and continue fleshing out customization of existing races.

And i can see them adding a handful of new specs to various different classes this time around, rather than adding a full new class.
Would be nice to have some more class archetypes filled.

[Teriz]

After we got a spec in a mid-patch I think anything can happen now. I'm mostly basing the race ideas off Jinyu in the files of 10.0 and the Broken hint in 10.1.7. And races are more likely than classes at this point.

We got the spec mid-patch because the class was always designed to have three specs. The third spec just needed more time for testing. So it coming later was a matter of necessity.

Along with necessity is the potential need for another support spec to give people options beyond Augmentation. This leads to the potential for new support specs or a new class with a support spec.

There's really no reason to introduce a new race at this point since we just got Dracthyr.

[Cheezits]

https://twitter.com/Portergauge/stat...514343/photo/1

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/spell=...nder-cosmetics

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/spell=...itch-cosmetics

Naga NPCs and cosmetic spells, all added in 10.2...

The same tweet thread also shows that Jaina and Thrall may appear later on, which could be 10.2.5 stuff or post-Amirdrassil things to lead to the next expansion? Also some guys from Silithus.

[Santandame]

https://twitter.com/Portergauge/stat...514343/photo/1

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/spell=...nder-cosmetics

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/spell=...itch-cosmetics

Naga NPCs and cosmetic spells, all added in 10.2...

Voidstorm let’s gooo

[AOL Instant Messenger]

After we got a spec in a mid-patch I think anything can happen now. I'm mostly basing the race ideas off Jinyu in the files of 10.0 and the Broken hint in 10.1.7. And races are more likely than classes at this point.

It's also worth noting that perceived patterns are pretty much meaningless in terms of expansion releases. Back before Shadowlands, everybody thought the usual pattern was that every second expansion added a new class, but this proved false. It's best to keep an open mind and look towards individual cues instead of larger patterns.

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I'd rather they pull another Shadowlands and continue fleshing out customization of existing races.

And i can see them adding a handful of new specs to various different classes this time around, rather than adding a full new class.
Would be nice to have some more class archetypes filled.

New specializations isn't a bad idea. I could get behind it. Still, I think we're likely to get new races—or at least new allied races—going off the Jinyu.

[Santandame]

It's also worth noting that perceived patterns are pretty much meaningless in terms of expansion releases. Back before Shadowlands, everybody thought the usual pattern was that every second expansion added a new class, but this proved false. It's best to keep an open mind and look towards individual cues instead of larger patterns.

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New specializations isn't a bad idea. I could get behind it. Still, I think we're likely to get new races—or at least new allied races—going off the Jinyu.

I need to be able to play as an Ankoan warrior immediately.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Voidstorm let’s gooo

I don't buy it. It sounds very disjointed and is too much unsubstantiated detail for a leak this early on in the cycle.

[lostsoup]

https://twitter.com/Portergauge/stat...514343/photo/1

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/spell=...nder-cosmetics

https://www.wowhead.com/ptr-2/spell=...itch-cosmetics

Naga NPCs and cosmetic spells, all added in 10.2...

The same tweet thread also shows that Jaina and Thrall may appear later on, which could be 10.2.5 stuff or post-Amirdrassil things to lead to the next expansion? Also some guys from Silithus.

what could this even mean??

[Teriz]

That's the same look Thrall has on the blizzCon '23 key art.

[Cheezits]

-big thrall-

That's the same look Thrall has on the blizzCon '23 key art.

They gave Thrall that look in BFA/Shadowlands. The Thrall on the key art actually has this model but with the colors shifted back to black and bright gold.

Thrall, Jaina, guys from Silithus/Shifting Sands, Naga and also the guys from Exiles Reach all being added seem kind of suspicious to me.

[Sondrelk]

I’m sort of convinced by the Voidstorm leak. It has pretty much everything that fits based off what’s been datamined and leaked, where the story is heading and what seems to be relevant.

It features boats of which we’ve seen datamined, it references an underwater plus Undermine which Towellie has hinted at as well as the terrarium. This was posted as a leak way before we got those hints too.

Also references Tel’Abim and Nightsquall which have both been seeded in Dragonflight, K’aresh; we have the eco domes datamined, plus Azshara as the main villain who has been referenced as working behind the scenes with the void in DF, plus whatever Iridikron’s doing.

As well as the main campaign featuring Thrall as the main character.

I just think it’s important to note that it references an underwater zone AND an underground zone, and was posted before we got the Towellie hints regarding content being underground and beneath water.

Of course it likely means nothing and is the same as any other leak, but it’s the one that makes the most sense to me and it sounds like an awesome expansion too.

Honestly, this is the kind of stuff that immediately puts me off a leak.
How fortuitous that the leak contains basically everything relevant from the current leaks, no matter how incongruous.

It would be like SL being heavy on Dragons, the Shadowlands, Galakrond, Infinite, having housing, and having a section dedicated to the escaped refugees from Draenor.
It would definitely cover it's bases in terms of what hints are correct, but damn if it wouldn't be a hit mess of an expansion.

[Woggmer]

what could this even mean??

Looks like Azshara is involved again. So, whatever Iridikron is going after might be the thing that Azshara is also seeking.

[Raetary]

That's the same look Thrall has on the blizzCon '23 key art.

Well yeah... as that's his current model.
Which he had since SL.

[Teriz]

They gave Thrall that look in BFA/Shadowlands. The Thrall on the key art actually has this model but with the colors shifted back to black and bright gold.

Yeah, that's right. Thanks for the correction.

[Sondrelk]

It's also worth noting that perceived patterns are pretty much meaningless in terms of expansion releases. Back before Shadowlands, everybody thought the usual pattern was that every second expansion added a new class, but this proved false. It's best to keep an open mind and look towards individual cues instead of larger patterns.

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New specializations isn't a bad idea. I could get behind it. Still, I think we're likely to get new races—or at least new allied races—going off the Jinyu.

Honestly I am willing to bet on Allied Races or equivalent being in 11.0. It would be an easy crowd pleaser, and would go along well with all classes being available to everyone.

[Cheezits]

Honestly I am willing to bet on Allied Races or equivalent being in 11.0. It would be an easy crowd pleaser, and would go along well with all classes being available to everyone.

If it's a revamp, or something similar, I think one last batch of fanservice races would check out. The Broken stuff was REALLY telling.

Ogres, Broken, Jinyu, someone else.

[Santandame]

Honestly I am willing to bet on Allied Races or equivalent being in 11.0. It would be an easy crowd pleaser, and would go along well with all classes being available to everyone.

But if it’s an underground/underwater expansion then outside of the Ankoan what would the (allied) races be?

I can think of several for a world revamp but just the Ankoan for anything beneath Azeroth’s landmass.