Midnight 12.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Shadowferal]

Opinion????????? Dude it's fact, wtf lol. What, did the legion story end in BFA? Is DF not concluding what was left over I'm cata???? Stop trolling

The Nightelf Holocaust has never had any closure. Stop making shit up.

[Cheezits]

What???

Dude the alliance had a quest to recruit the dark iron, how would that have been different than recruiting the Outland maghar???

You're choosing to ignore the obvious writing on the wall

Outland Maghar are one skin color and that's why they didn't do them. Also too similar to MU Orcs in culture.

May as well just unlock a brown skin option for regular Orcs.

[Sondrelk]

What???

Dude the alliance had a quest to recruit the dark iron, how would that have been different than recruiting the Outland maghar???

You're choosing to ignore the obvious writing on the wall

WoD Mag'har orcs were there for the taking.
They gave a quick excuse for why they would want to leave, and then they closed the link.

Dark Iron dwarves were also already in the Alliance, and honestly already playable with the Dark Iron skin option for Dwarves given in Cata. The AR was just a formality to give Alliance an easy AR.

[Joszef Kiprich]

Trying to figure out who is the most annoying poster of the two; the LvV guy or the Underground guy?

[Grazrug]

It might be a Thrall expansion, not an Orc expansion. Thrall is WoW’s top Shaman, so if something is elemental in nature, he’s the one to call. Also the elements could relate to the world soul on multiple levels.

I just want the story focus to be as far away as possible from our races. Nothing good can come out of it.

[Well Done Steak]

WoD and Legion are a two-part story, which originated in TBC. That's the simple truth.

Same with BfA, Shadowlands and WotLK.

Same with Dragonflight, 11.0, and Cata, most likely.

WoD was much more than just legion shit... Which is being taken care of in 11.0

BFA was primarily faction conflict which picked off with what was left off in mop. Variant straight up threatened voljin, now look how BFA started.

The primary story of DF is the aspects returning and trying to regain their powers, which were lost in what???? That's right cata...

Again, I'm not saying their isn't connective tissue that links all expansions with each other. You seem to think I'm implying that.

All I'm saying is that the primary conflicts were started and ended in my list.

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Trying to figure out who is the most annoying poster of the two; the LvV guy or the Underground guy?

Well people don't like confidence when it conflicts with their own personal interests so I'ma vote with me. Cuz I'm super confident that I'm right.

Eat your heart out T

[Ersula]

Who said where automatically choosing to team up with light?

This is a cosmic war. We're in the middle

So, a Wow Expansion with zero involvement of its major characters. Cool? On the planet where the Alliance is being run by Void/Light couple? No reason to participate in any of that.

That's why my theory is the Void & Light forming a temporary alliance to finally subjugate Azeroth.

I mean, that's obviously bollocks.

It says right there in A Song of the Depths that Queen Azshara will return once the Harbinger does her thing. That's not me saying it, that's Blizzard. Who else do you suppose it the Queen of the Naga, returning from beyond the Umbral Veil to rule the land, sky and sea?

The Dark Heart could be the Void artfiact, yes. Not sure I've said it can't be. Was it ever left broken, though? Plus, it seems strange that the "dark heart" sentence would fall after the one about "endless hunger" if they claimed the Void artifact before getting to Galakrond, don't you think?

It makes total sense if you understand it's written through the lens of an Azshara sycophant, yes. Which is what the Naga are. And who the note is found on.

The Artifact doesn't work (broken) without the essence of a powerful primordial (hunger) so Neltharian didn't do anything with it. If you think that's not it then it means the note didn't reference the Void Artifact at all, which doesn't make sense because finding it is the entire reason the Naga are there. Nothing about the plan works without the Artifact.

I just want the story focus to be as far away as possible from our races. Nothing good can come out of it.

So like, Shadowlands?

[Cheezits]

I just want the story focus to be as far away as possible from our races. Nothing good can come out of it.

Story focus on races has been the most liked thing about DF by far, in the few times it has happened. They learned from BFA.

No focus on races and factions, aka Shadowlands 2, would be a massive flop.

[Well Done Steak]

WoD Mag'har orcs were there for the taking.
They gave a quick excuse for why they would want to leave, and then they closed the link.

Dark Iron dwarves were also already in the Alliance, and honestly already playable with the Dark Iron skin option for Dwarves given in Cata. The AR was just a formality to give Alliance an easy AR.

Lol man....

There was no reason for us to time travel to an AU planet when the same race was "there for the taking" in our Outland.

And Dark irons were not playable.... Before BFA, a slightly grey skin for dwarves does not equal dark iron. They were missing the red eyes for one.

[Joszef Kiprich]

I would.like some racial storylines next expansion, just like the class hall questlines in Legion. The heritage armor quests seem like a good test for those.

[Well Done Steak]

So, a Wow Expansion with zero involvement of its major characters. Cool? On the planet where the Alliance is being run by Void/Light couple? No reason to participate in any of that.

That's why my theory is the Void & Light forming a temporary alliance to finally subjugate Azeroth.

Both light and void want to dominate the other which is not good for us... That's how we're involved

[milkmustache]

Story focus on races has been the most liked thing about DF by far, in the few times it has happened. They learned from BFA.

No focus on races and factions, aka Shadowlands 2, would be a massive flop.

Agreed. Someone in this thread made a point about it being absurd that Horde players accept more quests from Shandris than they do from any of their faction.

It's super cool working together via Dragonscale Expedition and the such, but the complete absence of faction presense in any way makes it feel very odd, in my opinion.

[Well Done Steak]

The Nightelf Holocaust has never had any closure. Stop making shit up.

Tyrande chose renewal, sentenced sylv and There's forsaken protecting their new home in the ED. But the story isn't over???????????????

[Makabreska]

The Nightelf Holocaust has never had any closure. Stop making shit up.

They did have a closure. Tyrande dropped revenge for rebuilding, Sylvanas got sentenced and accepted it and we are about to get a new World Tree. You not acknowledging all of this means nothing. And regarding Faction War, it is donezo. From 2022:

"After nearly two decades, World of Warcraft recently announced it was allowing Alliance and Horde players to play together. In an interview, World of Warcraft Game Director Ion Hazzikostas explained the game’s reasoning behind this decision, and confirmed it had no plans to have another expansion with a focus on the Alliance-Horde conflict."

Both story (Dragonscale Expedition) and in-game changes (fully cross-faction guilds) show that. Time to accept it. Don't expect Metzen to suddenly swoop in and start fiddling with a story that is already made for 1-2 expansions in advance.

[Joszef Kiprich]

Lol man....

There was no reason for us to time travel to an AU planet when the same race was "there for the taking" in our Outland.

And Dark irons were not playable.... Before BFA, a slightly grey skin for dwarves does not equal dark iron. They were missing the red eyes for one.

I have one good reason to go to WoD Draenor in stead of OL; it was a relatively recent environment compared to the ancient visuals OL has.

[Harbour]

I think leaked Ethereal dome would be the starting zone for playable Ethereal.
Ill even spinball it - something happens to Ethereal's domes (Light came to destroy or Void came to destroy), and players have to safely escape the place. They jump into portals and seek the sanctuary on Azeroth.
I think the expansion will be kickstarted with the first contact of Azerothians with Void or Y'rel's invasion.

[vintage79]

wow was and will always be about the conflict between the Horde and the Allies
of course, you can fill in the gaps with fairy tales about peace, but these have always been wives' tales for the naive.

[Well Done Steak]

Shit-tier writing is meaningless when it makes zero sense.

I can only hope Metzen's comeback addresses all the crappy loose ends that have cropped up in his absence.

Dude we're essentially back to vanilla faction wise. No war, there won't be another, but there's still skirmishes between the salty homicidal members

[Shadowferal]

Tyrande chose renewal, sentenced sylv and There's forsaken protecting their new home in the ED. But the story isn't over???????????????

None of which makes any sense whatsoever.
But as I said.. shit-tier writing. The incoherence is abominable.

[Grazrug]

Story focus on races has been the most liked thing about DF by far, in the few times it has happened. They learned from BFA.

No focus on races and factions, aka Shadowlands 2, would be a massive flop.

We got the new Baine story and the first thing Blizzard does is yet again killing an established Horde character for no reason.