1. #20141
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferlion View Post
    I do think removing the refugees from Stormwind in 10.2-2.5 is a near instakill for the "Revamped old world" theory. No reason to remove them now.
    Forsaken moved immediately for their quest in Shadowlands. It's just a small moment for fans: if they get their tree back in a patch, no reason not to move them immediately.

  2. #20142
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Interesting:
    "In Patch 10.2 it looks like the Night Elf & Worgen refugees have left Stormwind."
    This means only one thing - they will create a new organization called the Dark Crusade and start annihilating the Forsaken. They will get the support of the Scarlets. Calia will gain the support of the Blood Elves and the final bloody war will begin. This would be the case in old WoW.

  3. #20143
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    It's definitely possible its a big questing thing for 10.2.5, but I was thinking the final tree might pop out in Ohnaran Plains after you beat the raid.
    I wonder if there's plans for frequent returns to Dragon Isles/Ohnaran Plains in 11.0 if Iridikron and the Aspects remain prominent characters.

    The Windtotem new village in the Plains was a really interesting sideplot to me, I wonder what becomes of it along with Amirdrassil.

  4. #20144
    Quote Originally Posted by Yusefstrasza View Post
    The chinese guy who predicted the last couple expansions also said 11.0 will be about Elemental Lords
    Last couple? Try last 5

  5. #20145
    Quote Originally Posted by milkmustache View Post
    I wonder if there's plans for frequent returns to Dragon Isles/Ohnaran Plains in 11.0 if Iridikron and the Aspects remain prominent characters.

    The Windtotem new village in the Plains was a really interesting sideplot to me, I wonder what becomes of it along with Amirdrassil.
    I think it will be used for some kind of daily thing to obtain the Ba'kar mounts, but it would be interesting if it is used more often than that.

  6. #20146
    Quote Originally Posted by Dismayxz View Post
    It's so so so far away from a financial tragedy.

    But it's certainly a fucking Gameplay catastrophy.

    Now ask yourself which one's more important to whom. To Blizzard, it's great. To Players,..

    (Personal input? I know more people that gave up the D4 Season for the new D3 Season. Doesn't say much though, in the grand scheme of 'everyone'.)
    i think blizzard cares about both. diablo 4 is a live service and was supposed to last years. losing so many players only 2 months after the launch wasn't something blizzard wanted. not after the ow2 fiasco

  7. #20147
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krukus View Post
    It is possible that the theory that after MOP we have two exp related to the first three expansions is true. The first exp revives the theme and the second ends it. WOD resurrected BC and Legion ended it. BFA revived WOTLK and SL ended it. DL resurrected Cat, and 11.0 will end it. Then elementals are a logical motif, just like the Azeroth revamp for WoW's 20th anniversary. 12.0 may either be MOP-themed or will return to the Burning Legion theme again, as 12.0 will be released on the 10th anniversary of Legion and the 20th anniversary of BC.
    Just tossing this out there; If 11.0 is the conclusion of the cataclysm storyline, that could mean a resolution to Goblin and Worgen stories as well, where Goblins revitalize Kezan and we venture to Undermine, and Worgen return to Gilneas. Goblins and Worgen were both introduced in Cataclysm as refugees fleeing their homelands.

    That would be the justification for having Undermine as part of the expansion, and explain the underground aspect that Toweliee was talking about.

  8. #20148
    Quote Originally Posted by Zers Editor View Post
    https://imgur.com/msR8fcl

    Found this on 4Chan.

    I find it kinda funny that the last class to come to all classes would be Shaman in an expansion with so much elemental shenanigans going on. Blizz really does not like that class, do they?

  9. #20149
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Just tossing this out there; If 11.0 is the conclusion of the cataclysm storyline, that could mean a resolution to Goblin and Worgen stories as well, where Goblins revitalize Kezan and we venture to Undermine, and Worgen return to Gilneas. Goblins and Worgen were both introduced in Cataclysm as refugees fleeing their homelands.

    That would be the justification for having Undermine as part of the expansion, and explain the underground aspect that Toweliee was talking about.
    It is also possible, that Thrall together with the shamans and elementals, will restore Azeroth to its pre-Cataclysm state.

  10. #20150
    Quote Originally Posted by DiscipleofCazicThule View Post
    I find it kinda funny that the last class to come to all classes would be Shaman in an expansion with so much elemental shenanigans going on. Blizz really does not like that class, do they?
    Shamans are more likely than druids in DF itself. Besides a slight hint of Pandaren druids, there is no Druids for All stuff in the Dream patch, files, or story itself.

  11. #20151
    Whoever calls Diablo 4 the biggest flop in gaming has not been paying attention to gaming this year.

  12. #20152
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krukus View Post
    It is also possible, that Thrall together with the shamans and elementals, will restore Azeroth to its pre-Cataclysm state.
    Yep, and I also think that Thrall along with the elements are going to restore the world soul.

    I think your theory makes a ton of sense. Kudos!

  13. #20153
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Yep, and I also think that Thrall along with the elements are going to restore the world soul.

    I think your theory makes a ton of sense. Kudos!
    Welp, I guess thats it for me, I have no interest in the prospect of this, enjoy your game y'all im out.

  14. #20154
    Quote Originally Posted by Krukus View Post
    It is also possible, that Thrall together with the shamans and elementals, will restore Azeroth to its pre-Cataclysm state.
    So... revamp?

  15. #20155
    Quote Originally Posted by Krukus View Post
    It is also possible, that Thrall together with the shamans and elementals, will restore Azeroth to its pre-Cataclysm state.
    How about it's pre-sundering state? Because the Cataclysm barely did anything in comparison.

  16. #20156
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Yep, and I also think that Thrall along with the elements are going to restore the world soul.

    I think your theory makes a ton of sense. Kudos!
    yep, that's boring. hope you guys are wrong because otherwise 11.0 is going to be really disappointing.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiscipleofCazicThule View Post
    Whoever calls Diablo 4 the biggest flop in gaming has not been paying attention to gaming this year.
    flop in terms of sales? not at all. flop in terms of player retention? absolutely. game had 12m players in june; now people doubt it has 100k people left playing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiriastrasza View Post
    Welp, I guess thats it for me, I have no interest in the prospect of this, enjoy your game y'all im out.
    LMAO!

    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    So... revamp?
    Probably not until the end of the expansion.

  18. #20158
    Quote Originally Posted by DiscipleofCazicThule View Post
    Whoever calls Diablo 4 the biggest flop in gaming has not been paying attention to gaming this year.
    It was, it was a bigger flop than Starfield, and Starfield sucks ass.

  19. #20159
    Quote Originally Posted by Zebir95 View Post
    i think blizzard cares about both. diablo 4 is a live service and was supposed to last years. losing so many players only 2 months after the launch wasn't something blizzard wanted. not after the ow2 fiasco
    Eh, i don't think they're concerned right now. If people don't come back for season two, that's when they'll start worrying... a little.

    In fact, i wouldn't be surprised if they actually fully expected this to happen. They probably expect similar seasonal play behaviour as they're seeing in WoW or D3.

  20. #20160
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Shamans are more likely than druids in DF itself. Besides a slight hint of Pandaren druids, there is no Druids for All stuff in the Dream patch, files, or story itself.
    You have hints for every race to become every class.

    >Primalists have humans, gnomes and elves in their ranks
    >Tyr being revived opens up for more races to have access to the light
    >Every race being allowed to commune with the Emerald Dream (and not nightmare) to protect it will probably lead wild gods to find worshippers within the new races of Azeroth.

    There are only two things preventing Blizzard from doing it right now. First they gate this content because it gives people a reason to reroll during a patch and extend their game time. Second, these classes actually need some work in term of modeling. They'll need totems, paladin steeds and druid forms.

    In my opinion, we're going to see the new classes in that order : Shaman for 10.2.5, druids for 10.2.7 and paladins for 11.0 because I'm betting on Blizzard allowing us to custom the paladin mount since they don't have anything else to change outside of their spell visuals.

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