The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Reive]

DF is like 90% fire in the elements department and that's like saying WoD had demons so legion can't happen

Also important devs have said they want expansions to connect

first tier was full elemental. raszageth was an air/lightning villain. aberrus was mixed. next tier is nature+fire.

we need to change theme tbh

[Cheezits]

I mean, theres pretty much one line about the plot. Or two, if you count the Light vs Void thing as strictly plot. The rest is much pretty gameplay related. New continent and hub instead of world revamp, new race with new starting zone thatll become a patch zone, new big mechanic.

Not saying its definitely real but its fa rmor elikely than basically everything else so far.

I think the WoD leak was like "Garrosh goes back in time to recruit the old lords of Draenor" and that's it. Nothing about multiple antagonists, different patches, etc.

Oh yeah, it mentions Ka'resh is a patch, so no. There's never been a correct leak that has patch content AFAIK.

[Teriz]

first tier was full elemental. raszageth was an air/lightning villain. aberrus was mixed. next tier is nature+fire.

we need to change theme tbh

If Blizzard’s design goal here is to resolve Cataclysm, it makes sense that this is part one with the aspects getting their powers back. Part two would be repelling old god influence and healing of the world and the world soul. Elemental thematics run throughout the storyline. Just like Death ran through BFA and SL, and Demons ran through WoD and Legion.

[Hitei]

first tier was full elemental. raszageth was an air/lightning villain. aberrus was mixed. next tier is nature+fire.

we need to change theme tbh

The prepatch was also elemental, and every profession, and like 75% of the quests in the first three zones, and numerous quests in the last, and half of the added content features in the patches, a huge portion of mounts and items, etc., etc.

It is genuinely nuts that people think they deliberately made this entire expansion elemental-themed while planning for next expansion to be an elemental-themed expansion.

[Merryck]

Sargeras has already been corrupted into a dark titan who wants to kill the other titans ... but now he's purple?

[Santandame]

I think the WoD leak was like "Garrosh goes back in time to recruit the old lords of Draenor" and that's it. Nothing about multiple antagonists, different patches, etc.

Oh yeah, it mentions Ka'resh is a patch, so no. There's never been a correct leak that has patch content AFAIK.

IIRC WoD leak said Farahlon would be patch content but ultimately that was scrapped.

[Houle]

I think the WoD leak was like "Garrosh goes back in time to recruit the old lords of Draenor" and that's it. Nothing about multiple antagonists, different patches, etc.

Oh yeah, it mentions Ka'resh is a patch, so no. There's never been a correct leak that has patch content AFAIK.

Yeah, the WoD one was pretty short iirc. The Legion one however, a dude popped up in the expansion speculation megathread and in two posts gave a fairly small but accurate description. People trolled him and moved on without giving it much thought. Pretty similar to this.

Again, chances are its fake, but its more likely than anything else so far.

[Revamp Man]

11.0 leak https://imgur.com/gallery/nrp5hXY

Other than the heritage mistake I still like this one

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Yeah, the WoD one was pretty short iirc. The Legion one however, a dude popped up in the expansion speculation megathread and in two posts gave a fairly small but accurate description. People trolled him and moved on without giving it much thought. Pretty similar to this.

Again, chances are its fake, but its more likely than anything else so far.

Nah there's been a few contenders

[Hitei]

I think the WoD leak was like "Garrosh goes back in time to recruit the old lords of Draenor" and that's it. Nothing about multiple antagonists, different patches, etc.

Oh yeah, it mentions Ka'resh is a patch, so no. There's never been a correct leak that has patch content AFAIK.

There were several WoD leaks, in great detail.

No new class or races. All of this is pre demon blood so no humans with the draenei being the main Alliance force. Garrosh goes back in time and stops his father from drinking the demons blood and Gul'dan is banished. He brings technology from the current time to reinforce the Horde. Ner'zhul uses this and rises to power once more to try and gain Garrosh's trust in the....Iron Horde. The Iron Horde forbids demon magic but it's pretty likely Gul'dan may end up summoning the Legion still even on his own. We get there via the Timewalkers. I dunno how exactly Garrosh gets to the past yet. But his escape is explained in a upcoming short story with the start being his trial. Garrosh says he regrets nothing while laughing crazily but Anduin still believes he can be redeemed. Baine wants to personally execute Garrosh and Jaina is still her raging self. Eventually it comes to that scene we see in that Timeless Isle quest with Anduin talking to Garrosh. I dunno the rest of the story yet but it's likely Anduin and Zaela help Garrosh escape. 5.5 was to be 2 scenario's showing Garrosh's escape but since they are short on time 5.5 was scrapped for the above story with maybe parts ending up in 6.0. It was also to tie into the Timeless Isle. The ORIGINAL story for the expansion was that Garrosh was banished to Outland but managed to get a artifact of Nozdormu. He used the artifact to summon the great heroes of the Horde and then 're makes' Draenor with the artifact pulling in new landmasses that just tears things up more. This was later scrapped for time travel. The Alliance start in Shadowmoon and their capital is Karabor which is similar to Terokkar now. Karabor looks like how it does in the TBC trailer with Akama but brighter. The Horde starting zone is a new zone west of Blade's Edge in the Frost Wolf Homelands where their capital is a captured Ogre stronghold city. The zone itself is a tundra. Netherstorm is Faralon but will be released in a future patch. Hellfire is a jungle where Garrosh is constructing the Dark Portal so he can invade Azeroth and 'make things right'. Zangar is a sea full of giant mushrooms. Shattrath is taken over by the Iron Horde and is a raid along with Auchindoun being a dungeon/raid. The other raids are The Blackrock Clan Citadel and a Ogre Stronghold. The first dungeon is in the Horde starting zone and is a Ogre Dungeon Cave where we rescue slaves. The zone south of Terrokkar is the capital of the Arrakoa and is where their palace is located. It's like Terokkar but has a LOT more tree houses and flying Arrakoa. Maybe they end up doing something with their Old God. There's some new tiger race as well but no details. The Iron Horde has dominated the Gronn and uses them as giant siege mounts similar to the mammoths in LotR. The 'Warlords' are all the chieftains of the old Horde with Durotan being the only good guy. Some of the main heroes of the expansion are Velen (dunno if its Velen meeting himself or just past Velen), Maarad, Vol'jin, Thrall, Durotan, and some dwarf and tauren. There's a continent southwest of Draenor which is the homeland of the Ogres.

[Houle]

11.0 leak https://imgur.com/gallery/nrp5hXY

Other than the heritage mistake I still like this one

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Nah there's been a few contenders

Oh? Mustve missed/forgotten them beneath all the load of chatGPT shit.
Which ones, apart from the wowexdev stuff and the one you posted?

[Merryck]

Where are all the high quality fake leaks this cycle? That "shadowlands" leak with the ghost ships and map was top tier. Nowadays people just use AI.

[flan1337]

Going to be honest - can't shake the wording on this. What if we actually learn about 10.3 at blizzcon and everything we speculate is wrong. There is no wow Xpack announcement and we dont find out about the next xpact until 2024

[Reive]

If Blizzard’s design goal here is to resolve Cataclysm, it makes sense that this is part one with the aspects getting their powers back. Part two would be repelling old god influence and healing of the world and the world soul. Elemental thematics run throughout the storyline. Just like Death ran through BFA and SL, and Demons ran through WoD and Legion.

sorry, but usually the last patch of an expansion introduces the theme/villains of the next one: wod>legion, legion>bfa and bfa>shadowlands. having an elemental themed expansion after dragonflight would mean almost 2 expansions of elemental crap. that would be worse than the orc fatigue people had in wod

The prepatch was also elemental, and every profession, and like 75% of the quests in the first three zones, and numerous quests in the last, and half of the added content features in the patches, a huge portion of mounts and items, etc., etc.

It is genuinely nuts that people think they deliberately made this entire expansion elemental-themed while planning for next expansion to be an elemental-themed expansion.

yeah i forgot about those. i genuinely think an elemental expansion after dragonflight would be a huge letdown

[AOL Instant Messenger]

I was just about to ask... is that some kind of Elune/Avaloren/Moon elemental or something?

It looks pretty Elunarian to me, especially with the armored bits.

[Hitei]

Going to be honest - can't shake the wording on this. What if we actually learn about 10.3 at blizzcon and everything we speculate is wrong. There is no wow Xpack announcement and we dont find out about the next xpact until 2024

There is far too much to indicate that 10.2 is the last major patch.

The only way that I could see this not being an expansion announcement is if they are doing away with expansions entirely and returning to the vanilla style where they just put out patches on a non-fixed linear progression. i.e. 10.3, 10.4, 10.5, 10.6 etc. With raids and dungeons and new zone areas interspersed. Which to be fair, I could see happening if their plan is to revamp EK/Kalimdor.

To some extent they have switched towards this approach, what with DF's approach to just throwing in campaign/storylines in patches and making larger balance alterations (spec reworks, Aug, etc.) mid expansion.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

I mean, theres pretty much one line about the plot. Or two, if you count the Light vs Void thing as strictly plot. The rest is much pretty gameplay related. New continent and hub instead of world revamp, new race with new starting zone thatll become a patch zone, new big mechanic.

Not saying its definitely real but its fa rmor elikely than basically everything else so far.

I'm skeptical of it because it lacks any mention of the Jinyu or anything that might explain the spectral gryphon (though I'm now thinking that could just be a Classic promotion of some kind), but it's definitely not awful or totally inaccurate to how a leak should look.

[Merryck]

Going to be honest - can't shake the wording on this. What if we actually learn about 10.3 at blizzcon and everything we speculate is wrong. There is no wow Xpack announcement and we dont find out about the next xpact until 2024

Don't overthink it.

[Hitei]

Wait... is that an ice elemental mount at the bottom right?

Moonrock lunar elemental. Moon expansion confirmed.

[Revamp Man]

Ooohhh
What if 11.0 introduced elemental gear bonuses

Like you have a tier set but can augment it with an elemental bonus based on content

[Triceron]

I'll bite with eclipse, sounds like the most reasonable of all the leaks so far. I remain skeptical like with the Evoker stuff we got a couple years back, until I hear a better leak.

Not sure what half of the leak means though. Loop skill? Dynamic Flight?