The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Sondrelk]

So red shirt guy said this

https://twitter.com/TheRedShirtGuy/s...00334519726316

Assuming this is true, and paring it with the scaleface leaks…
Next expansion almost certainly has to be light vs void.

As I have said before. Just because a World Revamp is designed to be evergreen doesnt mean we are unlikely to have an actual main antagonist or two for raids and endgame content.
Light vs Void is as good a guess as any in this case. Especially since you have bring back C'thun and whatnot.

[micwini]

I am just curious whether An'shuul is related to An'she. Is it a dark moon? A planet orbiting An'she?

I think someone decyphered at some earlier point that 'shuul' translates to 'death' in the old god language. But that could mean anything.

[Reive]

i'd dig a void vs light expansion.

[Sondrelk]

I think someone decyphered at some earlier point that 'shuul' translates to 'death' in the old god language. But that could mean anything.

Ohh yeah, good point. Still doesnt answer whether it's related to An'she though. Maybe An'she is a Naaru, and An'shuul is the name of the void lord equivalent.

[Cheezits]

I think someone decyphered at some earlier point that 'shuul' translates to 'death' in the old god language. But that could mean anything.

"She" being Life would be a very funny/significant lore drop.

An'she, An'shuul. Guess who is a big Life She?

[Kiivar86]

I think someone decyphered at some earlier point that 'shuul' translates to 'death' in the old god language. But that could mean anything.

For what its worth there's also a voidwalker named Zar'shuul.

i'd dig a void vs light expansion.

So long as they continue that electric blue "jazz" thing with the Void, at least. I love that aesthetic. Flesh and eye old god stuff not so much.

[micwini]

Ohh yeah, good point. Still doesnt answer whether it's related to An'she though. Maybe An'she is a Naaru, and An'shuul is the name of the void lord equivalent.

Im pretty sure the 'void lord equivalent' is always a Naaru turning dark itself (see Muru - > entropius). So I don't think both equivalents exist at the same time.

[Hitei]

Yes. Sounds like he was given more info from Scaleface but idk

Nah, he literally mentioned MMO-C and the things he's talking about are exactly what Scaleface said in this very thread, that most of the pictures he was given are void-y and have dreadlord looking things.

[Reive]

So long as they continue that electric blue "jazz" thing with the Void, at least. I love that aesthetic. Flesh and eye old god stuff not so much.

for sure, but i also want to see more of the light

[Worldshaper]

Maybe An'she (the Sun) symbolises the Light, while An'shuul is its counterpart, the Void.

Naaru and Void Lord?

The White Lady, meanwhile, could be Elune. "Upstart godess" could refer to the fact that she was elavated to the same level as these other two. Not sure about the Blue Child...

So if An'she is a Cosmic Wanderer, he might return every now and then. Sort of how solar eclipses happen every X number of years and used to be seen as omens to ancient peoples. If he returns in the next expansion and darkens An'she, our sun would be blocked out.

Perpetual Void/night on Azeroth.

The White Lady (Elune), meanwhile, might act as some sort of protection. The moon reflects sunlight after all, so maybe she's still able to offer some light to us. I don't know, kinda off on the deep end here. But it's fun to think about.

[Kiria]

Nah, he literally mentioned MMO-C and the things he's talking about are exactly what Scaleface said in this very thread, that most of the pictures he was given are void-y and have dreadlord looking things.

Dreadlords infused with Void could be very deadly foes, finally a challenge for us?

[Reive]

You ain't getting that shit til 2034 bruh lmaooo

what are we getting then?

[Worldshaper]

Dreadlords infused with Void could be very deadly foes, finally a challenge for us?

The cunning ones kneel before Six masters, but serve only one?

[Polybius]

So what do you guys think about Azeroth's moons and the sun, as they relate to the next expansion?

The White Lady - Mu'sha - Elune

The Sun - An'she

The Blue Child - Lo-sho

Clearly super relevant to Night Elf and Tauren lore, with the Tauren believing them to be parts of the Earth Mother, and the Night Elves thinking of the White Lady as Elune. The White Lady collected Ysera's soul when she died, and was darkened when Tyrande invoked the powers of the Night Warrior. Supposedly, Mu'sha and An'she watch over Azeroth's world-soul and have done so since the dawn of time.

I just find the idea that the Harbinger would use this somehow to her advantage very exciting. If she could permanently darken Azeroth or something to that degree, in order to remove the world-soul's final protection and render it vulnerable to the Void, that'd be super cool as the setting for an expansion.

"Shadow of Azeroth" comes to mind, heh.

It would explain the shadowy Gryphon so well, too.

I honestly believed we had a chance at it pre-DF. Have we seen the use of sun kitty and frost phoenix (store mounts) in-game?

[Harbour]

Not going to lie, the idea that Sargeras sword has the portal to Void Lord World or Karesh, sounds nice to me.
I'm still thinking that giant eye like circle in the center of blade's guard symbolizes Void affinity.
Would be really cool to enter the sword as another Dark Portal and end up in a new world.

[Worldshaper]

I honestly believed we had a chance at it pre-DF. Have we seen the use of sun kitty and frost phoenix (store mounts) in-game?

I don't think so?

[Hitei]

Assuming "frost phoenix" means the Sapphire Skyblazer, that's the same rig used for all the newer raptor (bird) mounts. Like the Zenet Hatchling.

[Worldshaper]

The White Lady took Ysera's soul in Val'sharah, and it ended up in Ardenweald. Did we ever learn more about that?

Oh and it's pretty interesting that Draenor also has a similar thing going, with "The Pale Lady" and a smaller, darker moon beside it.

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That was talking about Death, not Void.

Has that been proven, or is it another one of those things where we assume it fits something and then the next expansion it turned out to fit something else?

[Hitei]

The White Lady took Ysera's soul in Val'sharah, and it ended up in Ardenweald. Did we ever learn more about that?

??? It was Elune mercy killing her.

[micwini]

The White Lady took Ysera's soul in Val'sharah, and it ended up in Ardenweald. Did we ever learn more about that?

Oh and it's pretty interesting that Draenor also has a similar thing going, with "The Pale Lady" and a smaller, darker moon beside it.

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Has that been proven, or is it another one of those things where we assume it fits something and then the next expansion it turned out to fit something else?

There is that one book in revendreth that mentions dreadlords infiltration every single cosmic force. Dreadlords were made by Denathrius