The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Hitei]

I think the idea of the AI dungeons are about as much as they can or are willing to do, assuming that pans out. Giving players a safer, slower environment to learn stuff like interrupts and the basics of tanking and healing.

I guess.

I think part of the problem would be better resolved by what's been circulating in some of the M+ community, about the nature of who gets punished by mechanics (i.e. Healers). If failing mechanics wasn't so wipe-y or one-shotty, and more just inconvenient, I think it might help soften the sheer cliff face that is end game content for a new player.

Community obsession with optimality and complete lack of forgiveness for missteps doesn't help.

[milkmustache]

Sure, but the mount/pet being storm themed is interesting when we just killed off the embodiment of Storms herself.

Maybe this is related to Blizzard saying we MAY see Razsageth's visage form one day?

Eh, I think Razsageth's story is over. Her purpose was to introduce and free the other three, mainly Iridikron. If we run with the idea of Khaz Algar being a part of or near Avaloren, I imagine it's a possibility the "storm" is part of whatever has stopped sailors from going to the other side of Azeroth.

@Arafel, maybe it's time to give that hype train a ghastly green hue.

[pacotaco]

And the color on the datamined gryphon skin is close to some of the "leaked art" pics from a few days ago (which totally look AI, but interesting).

Khaz Algar stormriders, Squally, all very interesting indeed.

It looks like ghostly or moontouched.

[Cheezits]

Eh, I think Razsageth's story is over. Her purpose was to introduce and free the other three, mainly Iridikron. If we run with the idea of Khaz Algar being a part of or near Avaloren, I imagine it's a possibility the "storm" is part of whatever has stopped sailors from going to the other side of Azeroth.

"That what they say about the western storms be true, that monsters and magic make the ocean impossible to cross."

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Ret...he_Nightsquall

Yeah, even if the dev who wrote this got fired, I can see them coopting this text to tie it to the Avaloren idea.

We're 100% getting another OCshit/Shadowlandsy filler island, aren't we?

[Hitei]

It looks like ghostly or moontouched.

As much as I hilariously doubt it's going to happen, I would be 110% on board for an expansion set on or in the moon.

[ZyntosAran]

"That what they say about the western storms be true, that monsters and magic make the ocean impossible to cross."

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Ret...he_Nightsquall

Yeah, even if the dev who wrote this got fired, I can see them coopting this text to tie it to the Avaloren idea.

We're 100% getting another OCshit filler island, aren't we?

"Return of the Nightsquall"
And we got a Squally pet

HMMMMMMMMMMMM

[Merryck]

It looks like ghostly or moontouched.

what does "moon-touched" even look like

[Hitei]

"That what they say about the western storms be true, that monsters and magic make the ocean impossible to cross."

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Ret...he_Nightsquall

Yeah, even if the dev who wrote this got fired, I can see them coopting this text to tie it to the Avaloren idea.

We're 100% getting another OCshit filler island, aren't we?

I don't know why you'd make the distinction. New dumb crap happening in westfall or the barrens isn't any less filler or OC.

[Catastrophy349]

People really need to stop focusing on the Towelliee thing. Even completely putting aside the guy himself or his track record or whatever, the way (and openness) he talked about the cave and the idea of below really feels more like he was just talking about what he strongly thinks is the direction rather than leaking outright expansion location information.

I know how much this forum loves talking about "said streamer," so I don't want to diverge this conversation. HOWEVER, during "the streamer's stream" yesterday, it was mentioned that Blizzard is being much "tougher" on information "getting out". Hence, why "the streamer" deleted several VoDs, twitter posts, YouTube/Tiktok videos, etc. even mentioning the "information" that was said.

[Kiivar86]

what does "moon-touched" even look like

Kinda like this I suppose

[Nymrohd]

They could make Khaz Algar a Great RIft like zone; in Forgotten Realms the greatest kingdom of the dwarves is the Great Rift which is a massive cavern whose ceiling collapsed millenia ago; effectively it is an open air cave. The dwarves there are also famous for their gryphon riders.

[Hitei]

what does "moon-touched" even look like

Spoiler: 

[Selorian]

I guess.

I think part of the problem would be better resolved by what's been circulating in some of the M+ community, about the nature of who gets punished by mechanics (i.e. Healers). If failing mechanics wasn't so wipe-y or one-shotty, and more just inconvenient, I think it might help soften the sheer cliff face that is end game content for a new player.

Community obsession with optimality and complete lack of forgiveness for missteps doesn't help.

tbh I think the game does a poor job of teaching you about the importance of things like interrupts and defensives. It's not something that gets really taught to you while leveling, let alone ingrained. I think having more tutorial dungeons like the Exile's Reach one could help with that, although it's trickier because most of these things are put into talent trees and therefore skippable.

[Hitei]

do you remember that the gryphons received new animations since DF or a little before?

There's a whole bunch of mounts that are now dynamic flying capable, they just haven't implemented it yet.

[Marlamin]

@Marlamin mentioned some suggestive future content spoiling stuff being buried in the current mineable data that people had apparently not picked up on yet, but that he was going to refrain from pointing out because he doesn't like spoiling things. I wonder if this is part of that.

[pacotaco]

what does "moon-touched" even look like

The color patter is the same as previous moontouched creatures:
https://www.wowhead.com/npc=7453/moo...st#modelviewer
https://www.wowhead.com/npc=175203/m...lp#modelviewer

[Hitei]

Speaking of moon-magic. Interesting that the supposed promotional list also includes a Ysera murloc.

[Sondrelk]

I have to be honest here. If we go to the backside of Azeroth and it's just a new continent I will be so disappointed.
Might be on me for hyping myself up with the possibility of a World Revamp, but I would genuinely be so upset if the next expansion doesnt look stellar immediately.

Hopefully Khaz'algar is on the old continents somewhere.

[Cheezits]

IT's HAPPENING!

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Speaking of moon-magic. Interesting that the supposed promotional list also includes a Ysera murloc.

Maybe she has a greater purpose than the Dragon Isles? Would explain a LOT.

[Raetary]

Alright, time to put dwarves on the train.