1. #20941
    Quote Originally Posted by Krukus View Post
    It is also possible, that Thrall together with the shamans and elementals, will restore Azeroth to its pre-Cataclysm state.
    So... revamp?

  2. #20942
    Quote Originally Posted by Krukus View Post
    It is also possible, that Thrall together with the shamans and elementals, will restore Azeroth to its pre-Cataclysm state.
    How about it's pre-sundering state? Because the Cataclysm barely did anything in comparison.

  3. #20943
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Yep, and I also think that Thrall along with the elements are going to restore the world soul.

    I think your theory makes a ton of sense. Kudos!
    yep, that's boring. hope you guys are wrong because otherwise 11.0 is going to be really disappointing.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiscipleofCazicThule View Post
    Whoever calls Diablo 4 the biggest flop in gaming has not been paying attention to gaming this year.
    flop in terms of sales? not at all. flop in terms of player retention? absolutely. game had 12m players in june; now people doubt it has 100k people left playing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiriastrasza View Post
    Welp, I guess thats it for me, I have no interest in the prospect of this, enjoy your game y'all im out.
    LMAO!

    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    So... revamp?
    Probably not until the end of the expansion.

  5. #20945
    Quote Originally Posted by DiscipleofCazicThule View Post
    Whoever calls Diablo 4 the biggest flop in gaming has not been paying attention to gaming this year.
    It was, it was a bigger flop than Starfield, and Starfield sucks ass.

  6. #20946
    Quote Originally Posted by Zebir95 View Post
    i think blizzard cares about both. diablo 4 is a live service and was supposed to last years. losing so many players only 2 months after the launch wasn't something blizzard wanted. not after the ow2 fiasco
    Eh, i don't think they're concerned right now. If people don't come back for season two, that's when they'll start worrying... a little.

    In fact, i wouldn't be surprised if they actually fully expected this to happen. They probably expect similar seasonal play behaviour as they're seeing in WoW or D3.

  7. #20947
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Shamans are more likely than druids in DF itself. Besides a slight hint of Pandaren druids, there is no Druids for All stuff in the Dream patch, files, or story itself.
    You have hints for every race to become every class.

    >Primalists have humans, gnomes and elves in their ranks
    >Tyr being revived opens up for more races to have access to the light
    >Every race being allowed to commune with the Emerald Dream (and not nightmare) to protect it will probably lead wild gods to find worshippers within the new races of Azeroth.

    There are only two things preventing Blizzard from doing it right now. First they gate this content because it gives people a reason to reroll during a patch and extend their game time. Second, these classes actually need some work in term of modeling. They'll need totems, paladin steeds and druid forms.

    In my opinion, we're going to see the new classes in that order : Shaman for 10.2.5, druids for 10.2.7 and paladins for 11.0 because I'm betting on Blizzard allowing us to custom the paladin mount since they don't have anything else to change outside of their spell visuals.

  8. #20948
    Quote Originally Posted by Melorandor View Post
    It was, it was a bigger flop than Starfield, and Starfield sucks ass.
    "Flop" does not mean "bad game", it means "financially unsuccessfull".

  9. #20949
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    How about it's pre-sundering state? Because the Cataclysm barely did anything in comparison.
    That would be hardcore. Most of the landmass of Old Kalimdor sank or melted away. On the other hand, WoW would need a shake-up and a fresh start.

  10. #20950
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Why must there be a reason? The very premise he built his pattern is ridiculous.
    Yet it's been correct every time

  11. #20951
    Quote Originally Posted by Krukus View Post
    This means only one thing - they will create a new organization called the Dark Crusade and start annihilating the Forsaken. They will get the support of the Scarlets. Calia will gain the support of the Blood Elves and the final bloody war will begin. This would be the case in old WoW.
    Oooo...*purrs*
    You're turning me on.

  12. #20952
    Quote Originally Posted by Holdodlig View Post
    You have hints for every race to become every class.

    >Primalists have humans, gnomes and elves in their ranks
    >Tyr being revived opens up for more races to have access to the light
    >Every race being allowed to commune with the Emerald Dream (and not nightmare) to protect it will probably lead wild gods to find worshippers within the new races of Azeroth.

    There are only two things preventing Blizzard from doing it right now. First they gate this content because it gives people a reason to reroll during a patch and extend their game time. Second, these classes actually need some work in term of modeling. They'll need totems, paladin steeds and druid forms.

    In my opinion, we're going to see the new classes in that order : Shaman for 10.2.5, druids for 10.2.7 and paladins for 11.0 because I'm betting on Blizzard allowing us to custom the paladin mount since they don't have anything else to change outside of their spell visuals.
    The Dream was going to happen for any expansion involving the Green.

    The Redeemed Primalists are definitely a way to pave the road for more shamans. Tyr's Guard MIGHT be the road for more Paladins, but maybe not, as I am suspect of how Tyr will be portrayed in the future and Blizzard has already shown to revert homogenized Light culture when it gets too bad (Orcs). I feel like it might be a misdirection/red herring to make Tyr look squeaky clean.

    There is nothing pointing to everyone being druids in the Dream patch besides the Dream being relevant. There IS a tease of a young Pandaren boy having a dream (in the Dream) and that's about it. Pandas have been noted by fans for a while as one of the races most likely to get Druids.

    All the new creatures everyone thought would be new druid forms? Unlockable druid forms.
    Last edited by Cheezits; 2023-09-28 at 10:34 PM.

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    I honestly still think druids are the next to be expanded. It makes too much sense with the story.

    I think that people are overestimating how much work druid forms are. Especially given how much they’re adding in this patch alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    what exactly makes Dwarves an underground race?

  14. #20954
    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    I honestly still think druids are the next to be expanded. It makes too much sense with the story.

    I think that people are overestimating how much work druid forms are. Especially given how much they’re adding in this patch alone.
    When people ask for Druids for Everyone, I THINK they are also expecting unique forms for every race. Now imagine Blizz adding a Bear, Cat and Flight Form (and if BFA standard, Moonkin, Travel and Aquatic form) for... every single race that doesn't have Druid. In a single patch.

    If Druids for Everyone happens in a single patch, everyone will be homogenized to be the same Green Bear. Are we cool with that? Will fans be cool with that?

    I personally think people will be fucking pissed if Dwarfs/Belfs/Pandas get druid but are locked to generic forms.

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    The next big system is going to be interesting
    I mean DF has hit everything except for group content in terms of changes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebir95 View Post
    yep, that's boring. hope you guys are wrong because otherwise 11.0 is going to be really disappointing.
    The elemental lords. Thrall front and center. Saving Azeroth. Possible Old God and Titan shenanigans.

    Sounds like typical WoW.

  17. #20957
    World of Warcraft: Eclipse

    - Theme is Light vs. Void
    - Azshara main villain. Makes contact with void lords. Xal’atath returns with Iridikron. Plan is to corrupt Sargeras into a dark Titan to kill the other titans.
    - Playable Ethereals start out on K’aresh. Zone returns as patch content.
    - Avaloren new continent with Titan city Uldaz as capital.
    - New feature similar to Torghast but is called Path of the Titans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Undermine, then through some elemental planes, and then to Uldaz, which houses the chamber of the world soul.
    Well, my hope is Kalimdor - Orgrimmar for Horde capital, Amirdrassil for Alliance, smaller cities like Thunder Bluff and some zones reserved for 11.1, 11.2 and/or smaller patches. Few pages ago someone reminded about Mag'har questline where Botani and Saberon run towards Barrens - another hint.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    When people ask for Druids for Everyone, I THINK they are also expecting unique forms for every race.
    I think no one will care if Blizzard keep introducing new forms regularly in patches. I think there won't be one generic form same for Undead and Dwarf, but some races like Mag'har and regular Orc will get same model.
    Last edited by Dracullus; 2023-09-28 at 11:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    When people ask for Druids for Everyone, I THINK they are also expecting unique forms for every race. Now imagine Blizz adding a Bear, Cat and Flight Form (and if BFA standard, Moonkin, Travel and Aquatic form) for... every single race that doesn't have Druid. In a single patch.
    Unique forms could happen imo. Plus it’s nothing compared to all the creature models they make for new expansions (or even patch content)

    There are some models that I think could be used perfectly for some races. Like the Mechagon cat model & its colors would be an easy port to Mechagnomes for example.
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    what exactly makes Dwarves an underground race?

  20. #20960
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    How about it's pre-sundering state? Because the Cataclysm barely did anything in comparison.
    What does that mean for the future of WoW?

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