The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Le Conceptuel]

I was just about to ask... is that some kind of Elune/Avaloren/Moon elemental or something?

It looks pretty Elunarian to me, especially with the armored bits.

[Hitei]

Going to be honest - can't shake the wording on this. What if we actually learn about 10.3 at blizzcon and everything we speculate is wrong. There is no wow Xpack announcement and we dont find out about the next xpact until 2024

There is far too much to indicate that 10.2 is the last major patch.

The only way that I could see this not being an expansion announcement is if they are doing away with expansions entirely and returning to the vanilla style where they just put out patches on a non-fixed linear progression. i.e. 10.3, 10.4, 10.5, 10.6 etc. With raids and dungeons and new zone areas interspersed. Which to be fair, I could see happening if their plan is to revamp EK/Kalimdor.

To some extent they have switched towards this approach, what with DF's approach to just throwing in campaign/storylines in patches and making larger balance alterations (spec reworks, Aug, etc.) mid expansion.

[Le Conceptuel]

I mean, theres pretty much one line about the plot. Or two, if you count the Light vs Void thing as strictly plot. The rest is much pretty gameplay related. New continent and hub instead of world revamp, new race with new starting zone thatll become a patch zone, new big mechanic.

Not saying its definitely real but its fa rmor elikely than basically everything else so far.

I'm skeptical of it because it lacks any mention of the Jinyu or anything that might explain the spectral gryphon (though I'm now thinking that could just be a Classic promotion of some kind), but it's definitely not awful or totally inaccurate to how a leak should look.

[Merryck]

Going to be honest - can't shake the wording on this. What if we actually learn about 10.3 at blizzcon and everything we speculate is wrong. There is no wow Xpack announcement and we dont find out about the next xpact until 2024

Don't overthink it.

[Hitei]

Wait... is that an ice elemental mount at the bottom right?

Moonrock lunar elemental. Moon expansion confirmed.

[Revamp Man]

Ooohhh
What if 11.0 introduced elemental gear bonuses

Like you have a tier set but can augment it with an elemental bonus based on content

[Triceron]

I'll bite with eclipse, sounds like the most reasonable of all the leaks so far. I remain skeptical like with the Evoker stuff we got a couple years back, until I hear a better leak.

Not sure what half of the leak means though. Loop skill? Dynamic Flight?

[Teriz]

sorry, but usually the last patch of an expansion introduces the theme/villains of the next one: wod>legion, legion>bfa and bfa>shadowlands. having an elemental themed expansion after dragonflight would mean almost 2 expansions of elemental crap. that would be worse than the orc fatigue people had in wod

Well that’s the thing, people don’t view this as an elemental expansion, they view it as a dragon expansion. Elemental stuff is a secondary theme, just like death in BFA and demons in WoD. If 11.0 follows the same pattern, 11.0 will bring an elemental theme full bore.

I don’t think the general audience would be tired of it, because right now the dragon theme overrides everything else.

[Triceron]

Well that’s the thing, people don’t view this as an elemental expansion, they view it as a dragon expansion. Elemental stuff is a secondary theme, just like death in BFA and demons in WoD. If 11.0 follows the same pattern, 11.0 will bring an elemental theme full bore.

I don’t think the general audience would be tired of it, because right now the dragon theme overrides everything else.

But what if it doesn't and Iridikron and Vyranoth merely return?

Would people still say the prediction is correct because they are 'Elemental'?

[Nightshade711]

World of Warcraft: Eclipse

- Theme is Light vs. Void
- Azshara main villain. Makes contact with void lords. Xal’atath returns with Iridikron. Plan is to corrupt Sargeras into a dark Titan to kill the other titans.
- Playable Ethereals start out on K’aresh. Zone returns as patch content.
- Avaloren new continent with Titan city Uldaz as capital.
- New feature similar to Torghast but is called Path of the Titans

Playable Ethereals would be pretty dope. I just hope blizzard doesn’t lock them to being only Void Ethereals.
Blizz seems to have forgotten about the non-void ones in recent years.

[Santandame]

Well that’s the thing, people don’t view this as an elemental expansion, they view it as a dragon expansion. Elemental stuff is a secondary theme, just like death in BFA and demons in WoD. If 11.0 follows the same pattern, 11.0 will bring an elemental theme full bore.

I don’t think the general audience would be tired of it, because right now the dragon theme overrides everything else.

Death was most certainly not the secondary theme of BfA. The primary theme was HvA and the secondary theme was Old Gods.

The theme of Death was only ever present during the Saurfang/Sylvanas duel and the following quests where she claimed Death was coming for Azeroth.

[flan1337]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...are_gone_from/

has this been brought up here? Night Elves leaving make senses but do Worgens get a pee spot in the new tree or do they go back home?

[Reive]

Well that’s the thing, people don’t view this as an elemental expansion, they view it as a dragon expansion. Elemental stuff is a secondary theme, just like death in BFA and demons in WoD. If 11.0 follows the same pattern, 11.0 will bring an elemental theme full bore.

I don’t think the general audience would be tired of it, because right now the dragon theme overrides everything else.

yeah no. i'm pretty sure many view dragonflight as a mix of dragon/elemental. doesn't help that the incarnates (and the other dragons in general) spend most of their time in their visage forms looking like a bunch of elemental dudes. another elemental heavy expansion would be bad imo.

[Hitei]

Well that’s the thing, people don’t view this as an elemental expansion, they view it as a dragon expansion. Elemental stuff is a secondary theme, just like death in BFA and demons in WoD.

Did WoD have a demon prepatch event?
Were its gathering nodes demon-infused?
Did every profession have demon-based sub-specializations, core recipes and use demon-based universal materials the entire expansion?
Did every central quest line involve demons?
Were large portions of every zone demon-related?
Were two of its three tiers demon raids, with the third also being heavily demon-themed?
Were there demon-themed armor, weapons, mounts and pets in every zone and every patch?
Did it add multiple demon-based world events?
Were the main enemies of three of its four zones demon-infused factions?
Were the main over-arching villains for the entire expansion a set of demon-infused villains?


I wish people would stop with this bullshit. Dragonflight is not "like WoD had demons!!!!". Dragonflight is built from the ground up as an Elemental expansion. The Elemental theme is not secondary or off to the side, or minor. It has been slammed into your face from the opening quests of the expansion all the way to the final boss.

[Reive]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...are_gone_from/

has this been brought up here? Night Elves leaving make senses but do Gilneas get a pee spot in the new tree or do they go back home?

yes. the night elves are moving to amirdrassil. the worgens will probably get something like the questline the forsaken got back in shadowlands. we will probably help them retake gilneas

[Xilurm]

11.0 leak https://imgur.com/gallery/nrp5hXY

Other than the heritage mistake I still like this one

Fall release? Lol?

I assume they meant 2024.

[Teriz]

But what if it doesn't and Iridikron and Vyranoth merely return?

Would people still say the prediction is correct because they are 'Elemental'?

I don’t think he returns. I believe Iridikron dies in Dragonflight attempting to remove the Titan influence from the world. Thrall comes in during 11.0 and repairs the damage with the elemental lords. Just like he stepped in during Cataclysm. World returns to pre-cataclysm, Worgen return to Gilneas, Goblins restore Kezan and we visit Undermine.

It simply makes sense.

[Xilurm]

yes. the night elves are moving to amirdrassil. the worgens will probably get something like the questline the forsaken got back in shadowlands. we will probably help them retake gilneas

We lost bois (nelf fans). Imagine one of the core races (gnomes dont count) not having their capital city in one of the two main continents... Especially if a revamp was coming.

[Teriz]

Death was most certainly not the secondary theme of BfA. The primary theme was HvA and the secondary theme was Old Gods.

There was the the Drust in Kul’Tiras, and Bowansamdi messing around in Zandalar. Not to mention Sylvanas doing her thing throughout the expansion.

The theme of Death was only ever present during the Saurfang/Sylvanas duel and the following quests where she claimed Death was coming for Azeroth.

Nah it was in other spots too.

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yeah no. i'm pretty sure many view dragonflight as a mix of dragon/elemental. doesn't help that the incarnates (and the other dragons in general) spend most of their time in their visage forms looking like a bunch of elemental dudes. another elemental heavy expansion would be bad imo.

I would disagree. The incarnates are dragons first, elementals second. Which is why they were introduced in a decidedly dragon expansion.

[Reive]

We lost bois (nelf fans). Imagine one of the core races (gnomes dont count) not having their capital city in one of the two main continents... Especially if a revamp was coming.

so far amirdrassil is still in the emerald dream. it could "spawn" in kalimdor (most likely not)