1. #21101
    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Maybe 11.0 will actually give us a Dwarf child model. Wouldn't that be something?
    That's why the dwarves irradiated gnomer in classic. They wanted kids running around

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terremer View Post
    it would be nice to have child/teen/adult models for each race in the game
    Only if they finally let us kill kids. I mean seriously, what is it with protecting children in games???
    /s?

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    I mean we also have datamined updated Ironforge Guard armor, weapons and tabards

    Something with a Dwarven vibes might be coming, and I am over the moon if it turns out to be so

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terremer View Post
    we kill baby dragons anyway!
    Sometimes we even kill them while they are still eggs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Worldshaper View Post
    I mean, they're pretty reasonable assumptions.
    Each by themself? Maybe. Together? Far to much uncertainty.

    We also don't know what exactly the anomaly actually did to the Earthen. Their behaviour is similar to Dwarfes. Not their nature. It could just be something affecting their minds. They were already "alive" in a way before that.

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    There has to be a reason why Blizzard chose the baddie to carry over to the next expansion to be the Earth Incarnate, and then pair him with the void. I believe that this clearly indicates we are going underground, not necessarily to Avaloren. I think the theme will be an underground old god expansion.

    The sword. Connects us to c'thun. Which would explain some of the new scarab stuff recently datamined.

    The collector gryphon textures appear to have a saronite glow, connects us to Yogg. Maybe we'll get some new Nerubian stuff. Wasn't one of the Night Warriors in Shadowlands a Nerubian?

    Also, some of the new dwarf items are wildhammer themed, which we know are in EK, not Avaloren. I think Khaz Algar will be underground or somewhere we already know of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hipolnalrt View Post
    There has to be a reason why Blizzard chose the baddie to carry over to the next expansion to be the Earth Incarnate, and then pair him with the void. I believe that this clearly indicates we are going underground, not necessarily to Avaloren. I think the theme will be an underground old god expansion.

    The sword. Connects us to c'thun. Which would explain some of the new scarab stuff recently datamined.

    The collector gryphon textures appear to have a saronite glow, connects us to Yogg. Maybe we'll get some new Nerubian stuff. Wasn't one of the Night Warriors in Shadowlands a Nerubian?

    Also, some of the new dwarf items are wildhammer themed, which we know are in EK, not Avaloren. I think Khaz Algar will be underground or somewhere we already know of.
    The scarab stuff = trading post items

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    Quote Originally Posted by hipolnalrt View Post
    Wasn't one of the Night Warriors in Shadowlands a Nerubian?
    No, Khaliiq belonged to some Elune worshipping people on some different planet.

    She turned into a spider person post death, when she joined the House of Eyes.
    Just like Amber Kearnen.




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    Quote Originally Posted by micwini View Post
    The scarab stuff = trading post items
    Okay, but wouldn't it make sense to put stuff on the trading post that they were already making anyway? You know two birds one stone kind of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    No, Khaliiq belonged to some Elune worshipping people on some different planet.

    She turned into a spider person post death, when she joined the House of Eyes.
    Just like Amber Kearnen.
    You're right. My bad.

  10. #21110
    Quote Originally Posted by Houle View Post
    Yeah sure, you werent serious through all of those 500 comments listing all the "indications" and "proof" lmao. Again, nice backtracking, try again.
    First of all, I could still be right. The WoD mount was a dread raven and WoD wasn't just an arrakoa exp.

    Second, I like to exaggerate my confidence cuz it triggers people like you. And I find it funny.

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    Anyone ever hear of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyria

    That's what that Gryphon skin reminds me of. Think it might be that dark blue because of some sort of Silver/Titan material affecting their biology.

    Another option could be it's darkened because this area / "other side of Azeroth" is in constant shadow in relation to the sun, and maybe they only get moonlight. Fun fact, we only ever see one side of the moon. And in some planets cases, their tilt + rotation causes some parts to never see light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Well Done Steak View Post
    First of all, I could still be right. The WoD mount was a dread raven and WoD wasn't just an arrakoa exp.

    Second, I like to exaggerate my confidence cuz it triggers people like you. And I find it funny.
    "Ahem, achktually I was just exaggerating to get a rise out of you sweaty don't take anything I say too seriously (unless I'm right, then I'm being serious)"

    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post
    Another option could be it's darkened because this area / "other side of Azeroth" is in constant shadow in relation to the sun, and maybe they only get moonlight. Fun fact, we only ever see one side of the moon. And in some planets cases, their tilt + rotation causes some parts to never see light.
    I don't think any planet could have an entire continent in perpetual night without being tidally-locked (i.e. the other side is perpetually bombarded by sunlight). On Earth, we only have a couple smaller locations that experience polar nights for several months. However, this is fantasy, and Shadowmoon Valley gives us a precedent for regions in eternal night anyway.
    "We will soon be in a world in which a man may be howled down for saying that two and two make four."
    — G.K. Chesterton
    The frozen Mind cracks between the mineral staves which close upon it. The fault lies with your mouldy systems, your logic of 2 + 2 = 4.
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  13. #21113
    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    "Ahem, achktually I was just exaggerating to get a rise out of you sweaty don't take anything I say too seriously (unless I'm right, then I'm being serious)"



    I don't think any planet could have an entire continent in perpetual night without being tidally-locked (i.e. the other side is perpetually bombarded by sunlight). On Earth, we only have a couple smaller locations that experience polar nights for several months. However, this is fantasy, and Shadowmoon Valley gives us a precedent for regions in eternal night anyway.
    You see?

    *Chef's kiss*

    Triggered people.

    Hehe

    Not saying I wasn't confident about a LvV exp, but I realize you never truly know. But I can't have any fun like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    I don't think any planet could have an entire continent in perpetual night without being tidally-locked (i.e. the other side is perpetually bombarded by sunlight). On Earth, we only have a couple smaller locations that experience polar nights for several months. However, this is fantasy, and Shadowmoon Valley gives us a precedent for regions in eternal night anyway.
    Sure it could, you just need a flying continent above it

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    Quote Originally Posted by ro9ue View Post

    Another option could be it's darkened because this area / "other side of Azeroth" is in constant shadow in relation to the sun, and maybe they only get moonlight. Fun fact, we only ever see one side of the moon. And in some planets cases, their tilt + rotation causes some parts to never see light.
    Erm... Azeroth rotates.
    It has a day night cycle.
    And its moons move around the planet constantly.

    The only way this makes sense is if Azeroth had a secret, orbitally locked 3rd moon that's either so big or so close to wherever Khaz is that the moon perpetually blocks out any sunlight.

    Or if the place is actually rather small and shoved into the region around one of the planets poles.
    But then its not on the backside, is it?
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  16. #21116
    Quote Originally Posted by Yzmor View Post
    Guys I'm happy for everyone who's excited about the next expansion, but.. I'm devastated :'(

    I would've been happy with Void stuff, Light stuff, a world revamp, other cosmic stuff, another weird planet like Outland, Nagas and sea stuff or any combination of these.
    But this dwarves and elementals theme... jeez I got miserably disappointed.
    I've been subbed during DF only because of legacy content, since I hate dragons (at least the Disney way they are presented this time) and now I feel so sad because I know that by the time this new expansion arrives, I'll have run out of legacy content to do. To me, this means WoW is stuck for 3 more years with themes I find not only uninteresting, but demotivating. And it's sad because WoW is the only game I've ever cared about ever since I was a teenager, and in my adulthood I've found solace in it many times when I had a rough patch so this game means a lot to me, personally. And now I've lost all hope it's ever going to be something that gives me comfort again.

    I just had to share my feelings, sorry, talking about this with my friends or BF is not the same, they don't get it.

    On the speculation side: I don't think Blizz has the nerve to serve the playerbase an entire expansion underground. With the new tech from 10.1, sure, they might showcase some underground zones (though it wouldn't be the first time for them to abandon new tech take Warfronts as an example), but IMHO no matter how well an underground zone is designed, if you never get back up to the surface, it's tiring and depressing. Also the main use of this tech is literally connecting the surface and what's below it, so if everything is underground, the tech is not needed, it would be the same as designing, say, the Broken Isles, but the skybox is just earth, crystals etc. with earthen walls surrounding the borders, like a bigger Zaralek, and that would be it.
    Yeah, I'm right there along with you, I'm absolutely devastated, My husband has no interest in 11.0 and my friends all quit WoW so the guild is dead and I doubt many og them have interest in this as they all quit when Zaralek was introduced.

    I was on Team World Revamp, this aspect of Underground just doesnt appeal, I will see you all at the 12.0 speculations, best of luck all.

  17. #21117
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiriastrasza View Post
    Yeah, I'm right there along with you, I'm absolutely devastated, My husband has no interest in 11.0 and my friends all quit WoW so the guild is dead and I doubt many og them have interest in this as they all quit when Zaralek was introduced.

    I was on Team World Revamp, this aspect of Underground just doesnt appeal, I will see you all at the 12.0 speculations, best of luck all.
    Shouldn't be better to just wait and see what the expansion is first?

  18. #21118
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiriastrasza View Post
    Yeah, I'm right there along with you, I'm absolutely devastated, My husband has no interest in 11.0 and my friends all quit WoW so the guild is dead and I doubt many og them have interest in this as they all quit when Zaralek was introduced.

    I was on Team World Revamp, this aspect of Underground just doesnt appeal, I will see you all at the 12.0 speculations, best of luck all.
    if leaks about classic+ are real we can swap from retail to classic (for abit)

  19. #21119
    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    Shouldn't be better to just wait and see what the expansion is first?
    I will watch Blizzcon don't get me wrong I will play Classic but if all this rumoured stuff is true about 11.0 then it's just not my cup of tea I will skip it and won't buy it, doesn't mean I love WoW any less, This particular adventure is just not for me and I will sit it out just like my husband and friends.

    Quote Originally Posted by vintage79 View Post
    if leaks about classic+ are real we can swap from retail to classic (for abit)
    Yeah I will play Classic with my Brother and Nephew, they live in a different country to me so it will be nice to spend more time with them as they hate Retail.

  20. #21120
    I’m just glad the “void vs light” / “light invasion” people have shut up

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