The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[PaladinBash]

Just putting it out there but this is by far the most excited anyone has been over a damn gryphon reskin. God knows there have been a lot of those.

[Revamp Man]

Just putting it out there but this is by far the most excited anyone has been over a damn gryphon reskin. God knows there have been a lot of those.

Idk man Taliesin jizzed his pants for that gryphon in BfA

[Chickat]

Ooh, I love all the talk about the four elements and how they each seem to fit a Dwarf clan!

I guess they'll have to update the old saying: "Storm, Earth, and Fire [and Frost, woo!]. Heed my call!"



Finally, I am able to retire.

I know right? You finally have my approval. You can die in peace.

[flan1337]

If it was a revamp, it would be in the Eastern Kingdoms and/or Kalimdor being the focus. There really isn't much we could do in Northrend aside from exploring Azjol'Nerub but unless Yogg Saron makes a come back, or if there's something screwy going on with the Titan Keepers back in Ulduar... then I don't see any reason for us to go back to Northrend. (Especially since we were just there for the Shadowlands launch event when the Veil was torn open... [it's still left torn open btw.. we never figured out how to fix that.]

The Heritage Armor questlines, the Allied Race acquisitions (mostly Dark Iron and Mag'har), that one Ghostland questline from SL and the Kyrian questline in Redridge mountains all keep pointing us back to Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor as if hinting a bunch of stories that are happening there that we aren't aware of.

Well I think updating assets to be HD would rock still - including outlands. I think there is still so much we can do to make that content useful to spice things up. I believe blizzard has also talked about how they could use timewalking to bring us back into those areas.

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Funny enough I just played that song today as its been forever since I heard it. All this dwarves talk does feel more nostalgic

[Annihilas]

Absolutely. There could be a massive cave beneath Alterac (we never saw the Titan ruins the entire fight happens for). We know Uldaman extends further below, it could open into a vast cavern system. The land around the sword could collapse, opening tunnels underground. And yes, it could just be that we just get a new continent/island like Avaloren and one of the zones there is underground.

Almost similar to this fake leak... I feel like Metzan himself wrote the transcript draft tbh?

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...tic-Transcript

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But yeah, there's a TON to possibly explore, even in the OG zones!

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BTW, I have to say Nym, I like your style, these are theories I hope do see the light of day within the Warcraft space!

[ImTheMizAwesome]

I think there's a big potential in timewalking beyond TW dungeons and raids - Like let's say some time cracks happen and old areas will have a world boss spawning connected to that expansion and it would drop maybe some no longer available items plus completely new items, maybe some rare armor set essemble that specific world boss wears.

just one idea from the top of my head.

Of course world quests could be fun in old areas when certain timewalking is on to farm timewarped currency that will allow buy a lot of new items from vendors, not everything has to be tied to trading post(even tho i love the system).

[Nymrohd]

I will say that Northrend absolutely could use a graphical revamp. I think Blizzard only reached a level of detail with their graphics that could merge with the current ones during MoP, maybe with the few areas of Cata that were completely new also getting there (The elemental planes were the few places that only had new textures and doodads while other places in Cata used a mix of new and old). Northrend absolutely could use a visual update.

As for why go there again?
We could be joining the Iskara Tuskar reconnecting with their Northrend cousins.
Azjol Nerub is always there, what is happening to it with the Scourge and Yogg gone?
Perhaps the Zandalari are trying to reclaim Zul'drak (I was so disappointed that they did not have an ice cap at the summit of Mt Mugamba where Tal'Drak could be)
Whatever happens at the end of DF could give the dragons reasons to visit Dragonblight, perhaps to start moving things back to the Ossuary?
Storm Peaks should be where Odyn currently is and we can catch up with the other Keepers.

[Ferlion]

Earthen is a supergroup of Dwarves. Dwarves are Earthen. Earthen are not Dwarves. They aren't equal because Earthen also covers beings other than Dwarves, not because Dwarves aren't Earthen.

A bit of a nitpick, but Earthen are also "Dwarves"

Kind of.

So, Dwarves didn't start calling Themselves Dwarves until post sundering. But technically "Dawrf" is an old Darnassian word we don't know the definition of.

"Dwarf" was a derogatory term Night Elves used for the Earthen that the Earthen adopted when they woke up changed.

It would be more accurate to say all Earthen are Dwarves, but not all Dwarves are Earthen.
But Earthen are definitely Dwarves in tge original usage of the word

[xin16]

I'm worried that if we get 11.0 being about Elements and Shamans that would kind of be the same themes of Dragonflight. We've spent the whole expansion fighting elementals or fire things apart from Dragons, would kind of be weird to do the same thing the expansion after that.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Or it's Magni, representing earth since he was diamond the last time we saw him.

Let me introduce you to our diamond of the season...

[ImTheMizAwesome]

So with magni probably returning i wonder what will become a new WOONS

[Raetary]

So with magni probably returning i wonder what will become a new WOONS

If he makes us snort Azerite again, i will shove him into the nearest lava pit.

[Woggmer]

Well I think updating assets to be HD would rock still - including outlands. I think there is still so much we can do to make that content useful to spice things up. I believe blizzard has also talked about how they could use timewalking to bring us back into those areas.

Oh, that's not possible... even if Blizz wants to, that is actually impossible. TBC's code is old, so Blizz has to be careful not to change too much to TBC like Azuremyst, Bloodmyst, Eversong, Ghostlands and Outland.. if the changes get too drastic in Silvermoon (like a fully rebuilt city) then those changes will effect places like Outland or other areas because they all share the same zone server. This is why Silvermoon is still looks the same.

If they do a revamp, they could connect Ghostlands and Eversong Forest to the mainland... but the Azuremyst and Bloodmyst isles are tricky since they're too far away from the actual mainland.. that they would need to construct a whole boat route for them.

[ImTheMizAwesome]

If he makes us snort Azerite again, i will shove him into the nearest lava pit.

Magni and toddy whiskers make a team and will yell into your ears about azerite in next expansion.

[Sondrelk]

Oh, that's not possible... even if Blizz wants to, that is actually impossible. TBC's code is old, so Blizz has to be careful not to change too much to TBC like Azuremyst, Bloodmyst, Eversong, Ghostlands and Outland.. if the changes get too drastic in Silvermoon (like a fully rebuilt city) then those changes will effect places like Outland or other areas because they all share the same zone server. This is why Silvermoon is still looks the same.

If they do a revamp, they could connect Ghostlands and Eversong Forest to the mainland... but the Azuremyst and Bloodmyst isles are tricky since they're too far away from the actual mainland.. that they would need to construct a whole boat route for them.

I think you are overstating the difficulties. The old versions of the zones are still likely to be available, so they wouldn't have to touch the ones in the TBC instances. They wouldn't have to move anything.
All they would have to do is add new zones to EK and Kalimdor, which they did just fine in Cataclysm.

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Magni and toddy whiskers make a team and will yell into your ears about azerite in next expansion.

"There are WOONZ atop these peaks!"

[Auxis]

Absolutely. There could be a massive cave beneath Alterac (we never saw the Titan ruins the entire fight happens for). We know Uldaman extends further below, it could open into a vast cavern system. The land around the sword could collapse, opening tunnels underground. And yes, it could just be that we just get a new continent/island like Avaloren and one of the zones there is underground.

I might be blanking on this: what fight?

[Nymrohd]

I might be blanking on this: what fight?

Alterac Valley battleground? The dwarves went there to examine Titan Ruins and intruded on the land the Frostwolves claimed. We never actually see the Titan Ruins though.

[Santandame]

It would make sense, with all the elemental references in the encrypted data.

WHAT elemental references?

[Woggmer]

I'm worried that if we get 11.0 being about Elements and Shamans that would kind of be the same themes of Dragonflight. We've spent the whole expansion fighting elementals or fire things apart from Dragons, would kind of be weird to do the same thing the expansion after that.

Doesn't feel like it, we only really focused on the Primalist at the start of the expansion... After that once we got to the Forbidden Reach, most of the expansion was focused on the Sundered Flame and Sarkareth.. and the other half was focused on the Djaradin.. then we spent time fighting the Infinite Dragonflight... and now the full attention is on Fyrakk and the Druids of the Flame. Sure, Smolderon is there, but we know next to nothing about why he's actually there aside from Fyrakk trying to steal his molten energy to give him a power boost.

If Kurog didn't die in the first raid and became a recurring villain and gave more depth about the primalists through the whole expansion then I would agree that it was an elemental expansion. However, the fact that they were treated like a footnote compared to the other baddies we faced in the Dragon Isles gives the impression we're gonna see them again down the line.

I'm not tired of the elementals but I am getting sick and tired of the dragons, especially the Sundered Flame and Sarkareth who's whole character is 'a whiney-ass entitled chump.'

[Lady Atia]

Doesn't feel like it, we only really focused on the Primalist at the start of the expansion... After that once we got to the Forbidden Reach, most of the expansion was focused on the Sundered Flame and Sarkareth.. and the other half was focused on the Djaradin.. then we spent time fighting the Infinite Dragonflight... and now the full attention is on Fyrakk and the Druids of the Flame. Sure, Smolderon is there, but we know next to nothing about why he's actually there aside from Fyrakk trying to steal his molten energy to give him a power boost.

If Kurog didn't die in the first raid and became a recurring villain and gave more depth about the primalists through the whole expansion then I would agree that it was an elemental expansion. However, the fact that they were treated like a footnote compared to the other baddies we faced in the Dragon Isles gives the impression we're gonna see them again down the line.

I'm not tired of the elementals but I am getting sick and tired of the dragons, especially the Sundered Flame and Sarkareth who's whole character is 'a whiney-ass entitled chump.'

Smolderon wants to use the Emerald Dream as fuel to expand the Firelands, he literally says so in the new raid.