The War Within 11.X Patches & World Soul Saga Speculation Thread

[Samin]

It just occurred to me that Stormbreak could be Classic+ expansion rather then a regular retail expack. Has Blizzard ever said they would do classic+ stuff?

I thought so too but so far the classic titles all had the "CLASSIC" subtitle.

But spinning off of that, wouldn't it be hilarious (because of the meltdowns) if they're actually doing a WoW 2 but it's a Classic Spinoff that continues after WotLK as an alternate timeline if Cataclysm never happened. Stormbreak could be about "breaking" through the storms between Kalimdor and EK and exploring the lands there, both those we know from "retail" as well as potentially new ones. It might even introduce dynamic flying through gryphon/wyvern riders as an alternative to dragonriding.

[Revamp Man]

Remember the pages of analysis that proved dragonflight logo fake?

[flan1337]

Remember the pages of analysis that proved dragonflight logo fake?

Okay but with hinde sight the Dragonflight logo is extremely well made compared to Stormbreak haha

Blizz probably step up their game to make fake logos extremely difficult now.

[justwatching]

We sorta know whats next for Classic. 1.15 has been on their internal dev server since April and has gotten updates as recently as last week(HC patch is 1.14.4) and they send out surveys about cataclysm a while ago.

Pretty clear that whats gonna happen there is a new Vanilla season(potentially with big updates) and cataclysm classic. Dont think you'll see named proper expansions for it.


As for the Stormbreak logo there is definitely a case to be made for returning to the "old style" logo IF they are doing some sort of revamp. But I doubt that.

[Nightshade711]

"... Warcraft, and WoW .... "

What does he mean by WARCRAFT?

Warcraft 4 confirmed!!!

Jk, but probably Arclight rumble. Maybe that unnamed survival game blizzard mentioned a while ago? If that wasn’t canceled.

[Samin]

Okay but with hinde sight the Dragonflight logo is extremely well made compared to Stormbreak haha

That's just hindsight being hindsight.

[Cheezits]

Splitting Warcraft players between Classic, Classic+ and Retail sounds like a great way to kill the game unless they go F2P.

[ZyntosAran]

Warcraft 4 confirmed!!!

Jk, but probably Arclight rumble. Maybe that unnamed survival game blizzard mentioned a while ago? If that wasn’t canceled.

the survival game is a new ip.

[DiscipleofCazicThule]

The heroic edition mount for the expansion being an elemental is a massive reach? Perhaps you weren’t paying attention, but further data mining in this thread has supported this conclusion as well.

I’m sure you believe that Squally and Fyrn being names for elemental based pets is a massive reach as well, right?

Yeah, Squally is after all the dwarf datamining. It's most likely a Griffin pet. Fyrn could be any number of things including a plant pet. I'm not arguing with you because it goes nowhere. Just like your obsession with tinkers of yesteryear that were definitely happening.

[Dismayxz]

Warcraft 4 confirmed!!!

Jk, but probably Arclight rumble. Maybe that unnamed survival game blizzard mentioned a while ago? If that wasn’t canceled.

Think the Survival Game is fair Game here? It wasn't Warcraft Related when they previewed the Concept, it was some sort of "Current Day People entering some survival dream world" shit, no? Though I would dig it if they shifted concept to a Warcraft-based Survival concept.

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Splitting Warcraft players between Classic, Classic+ and Retail sounds like a great way to kill the game unless they go F2P.

Blizzard has been dealing with a split playerbase since the beginning of the Game. Casuals vs Elitists, Roleplayers vs non-Roleplayers, Top End vs Mid-level, all the little infights INTERNALLY on all of the splits you can offer. Now Classic vs Retail. If Classic+ vs the other two enters the fold, it's gonna be a drop in the Bucket. People have always vied for Blizzard's attention when it comes to WoW. Every Group, every Subgroup wants to be the Developer's Favorite Children for Development Time and Resources. The MMORPG should change, the MMORPG shouldn't change. Focus more on the MMO, Focus more on the RPG, Focus less on the MMO, focus more on the RPG, focus less on the RPG, focus more on the MMO, focus more on neither. People come up with the most (sorry not sorry) retarded shit to help their narrative in the matter.

[ChairmanKaga]

Splitting Warcraft players between Classic, Classic+ and Retail sounds like a great way to kill the game unless they go F2P.

This foolishly assumes the players would be split. People play Classic who wouldn't play Retail and vice versa. They aren't dividing one singular pool of subs.

[KyleEverett]

I would personally hate it if 11.0 adds "Stormriding Mounts" as a way to redo the 10.0 starting experience of glyphs and everything again without us just taking our dragons and any newly unlocked dynamic mounts. I'm so tired of my collection being locked away and using just 4 skeletons.

[Reive]

if blizzard wants to keep retail then classic+ (a full reboot of the game) is a bad idea. i'm pretty sure classic+ would at least damage retail.

[Ferlion]

I think if the survival game is years out still it won't be announced

[Gurahk]

I don't think people realize that a classic+ is just another retail. Things that people don't like will be added or changed.

[Dismayxz]

I don't think people realize that a classic+ is just another retail. Things that people don't like will be added or changed.

Not necessarily. I'm pretty sure what people want out of Classic+ is just more Azeroth to play in/on with new Dungeons and Raids where you can Press Shadowbolt, Shadowbolt, Shadowbolt, Shadowbolt, Shadowbolt, Shadowbolt...
Oh and stack Warriors.

[Triceron]

Not necessarily. I'm pretty sure what people want out of Classic+ is just more Azeroth to play in/on with new Dungeons and Raids where you can Press Shadowbolt, Shadowbolt, Shadowbolt, Shadowbolt, Shadowbolt, Shadowbolt...
Oh and stack Warriors.

There's quite a lot of fun out of that simplicity. Like, you could probably just jump into long form content with a movie in the background and just have fun chatting with friends. That's how I used to raid back in Wrath.

WoW was just a different type of game back then.


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Separate question, were there any compelling leaks regarding new Support specs or anything class related?

[Dismayxz]

There's quite a lot of fun out of that simplicity. Like, you could probably just jump into long form content with a movie in the background and just have fun chatting with friends. That's how I used to raid back in Wrath.

WoW was just a different type of game back then.

I agree with that and I see that. But at the same time what does that say about the Game? It feels more like the fun here is coming less from playing the Game and more from the Movie and Chatting with Friends. Things I can also just do... without playing the Game?

Besides, that entire idea hinges on the Idea that Modern World of Warcraft strains the average Player to such a degree with it's Gameplay, that these things can not be typically done while playing the Game. Yet that is only really true for the Higher End versions of each Endgame Pillar. And even there you can argue that it's still very possible with how much "help" you can unironically download to not have to pay attention at all until that Bell Rings. As an example. My last 4 Farm Raids I was full mute, talking to the GF on Discord (while she was on a business trip) and watching an anime. We one day cleared. We're an average World 300 Guild for Mythic. All possible because I used my time on Prog actually learning the fight, so now for most of Farm I can just sleeze off, play "the Script" (aka play the Boss the same way I always do) and I dunno.. scratch my nuts while Weakauras and DBM yell at me. That's.. the same thing. I just picked a Class and Specc that are simple. And I think that is the real thing here. The Content doesn't have to be simple. The Character you play has to be.

[Catastrophy349]

https://x.com/keyboardturn/status/17...486395071?s=20 hehe

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

https://x.com/keyboardturn/status/17...486395071?s=20 hehe

Ah yes the Living World that we figured out was for birds flying away from you. Cute.