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    Did Neltharion talk to the Void Lords? Or did he talk to the Old Gods?
    Both. By coincidence. His corruption began with the Old Gods, but the void window was the result of his own experiments. He contacted whatever was also later talking to Sarkareth. By rule of thumb, the Old Gods (as we know them) are an Azeroth thing while Void Lords are a space thing. And that thing in Aberrus got nicknamed a Void Window for obvious reasons.
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    That wasn't my argument. My argument is that the BlizzCon elemental is hint of what the WoW expansion's theme is going to be. The Algarian Stormrider also likely being an elemental backs that up.
    But it isn't usually. The Blizzcon ticket rewards themselves usually have no reference to upcoming content. That's what we keep pointing out & you keep claiming the opposite. What you say is evidence is not evidence, its instead a very loose association.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    No, what Teriz is doing isn't speculation, it's just randomly asserting things.



    You're literally assuming on both relevant points. We don't know if the BlizzCon elemental even has any relevance at all, and we don't know if the Stormrider is an elemental or not. You merely assume these to be the case.
    If we need evidence and peer review for speculation now then 95% of this thread shouldn't have been posted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Both. Presumably. His corruption began with the Old Gods, but the void window was the result of his own experiments. He contacted whatever was also later talking to Sarkareth. By rule of thumb, the Old Gods (as we know them) are an Azeroth thing while Void Lords are a space thing. And that thing & Aberrus got nicknamed a Void Window for obvious reasons.
    You know… we never did close that void window.
    I wonder if that’ll ever come back into play or if Blizz will forget about it.
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    Uh Demon Hunters literally had an ability called Spellbreaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    You're literally assuming on both relevant points. We don't know if the BlizzCon elemental even has any relevance at all, and we don't know if the Stormrider is an elemental or not. You merely assume these to be the case.
    Well no. An assumption is stating something without proof or evidence. I have proof and evidence to back up my statements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baraden View Post
    If we need evidence and peer review for speculation now then 95% of this thread shouldn't have been posted
    Do try to not tear anything while stretching, yes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Well no. An assumption is stating something without proof or evidence. I have proof and evidence to back up my statements.
    No, you don't. You literally don't have anything other than assumptions there.

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    Can we all just like... collectively agree to not engage in this bottomless pit of an argument? Pleeeease?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baraden View Post
    If we need evidence and peer review for speculation now then 95% of this thread shouldn't have been posted
    There is a difference between stating something (often contrived) as confirmed fact vs exploring possible ideas. Hairbrained theories can be fun, but it gets tiring to hear someone uncritically assert their headcanon as reality, particularly when there's an air of superiority involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    No, you don't. You literally don't have anything other than assumptions there.
    So Thrall on the key art of BlizzCon isn’t evidence that the next expansion may have an elemental theme?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    So Thrall on the key art of BlizzCon isn’t evidence that the next expansion may have an elemental theme?
    No it’s not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    No it’s not.
    Really? The key art of the last 3 expansions showcased the theme of next expansion via a popular character. Why would 11.0 be any different?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    So Thrall on the key art of BlizzCon isn’t evidence that the next expansion may have an elemental theme?
    No, it's evidence that they put the character of which they also have a statue of in their front yard on their poster. Which also coincides with the fact that Chris Metzen has returned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Really? The key art of the last 3 expansions showcased the theme of next expansion via a popular character. Why would 11.0 be any different?
    Because Thrall doesn’t instantly mean elemental.

    And Jaina didn’t really showcase the theme of BfA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansworst View Post
    No, it's evidence that they put the character of which they also have a statue of in their front yard on their poster. Which also coincides with the fact that Chris Metzen has returned.
    See my previous post. In recent years the key art that was released before BlizzCon has showcased the thematic of an expansion via a popular character every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightshade711 View Post
    Because Thrall doesn’t instantly mean elemental.
    He is WoW’s premiere shaman character. The very character the Shaman class is based on. How is he not related to the elements?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Really? The key art of the last 3 expansions showcased the theme of next expansion via a popular character. Why would 11.0 be any different?
    It's not keyart of the expansion. It's a convention poster.

    Try and find Alexstrasza on the 2022 poster:


    Edit: apparently I need to get my Google fixed. Typed 2022 Blizzcon and got this. Blizzconline was canceled ofcourse in 2022.
    Last edited by MCMLXXXII; 2023-10-02 at 12:47 AM.

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    In b4 the gryphon mount is the reward for participating in all cups and the storm rider is a new jet multi person mount

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    He is WoW’s premiere shaman character. The very character the Shaman class is based on. How is he not related to the elements?
    Because they can put him literally anywhere that involves the horde and/or a threat to Azeroth.
    Kinda like the void, which clearly has plans for him since he featured center stage in N’zoth’s vision.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansworst View Post
    It's not keyart of the expansion. It's a convention poster.

    Try and find Alexstrasza on the 2022 poster:
    That’s from 2019, pre shadowlands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    That wasn't my argument. My argument is that the BlizzCon elemental is hint of what the WoW expansion's theme is going to be.
    Keep in mind it was added back in 9.2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    That’s from 2019, pre shadowlands.
    Yeah my bad, googled blizzcon 2022 and got this. Blizzconline was canceled ofcourse last year.

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