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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    He is WoW’s premiere shaman character. The very character the Shaman class is based on. How is he not related to the elements?
    He's also Thrall, the most impoortant orc, an important character. It could just as easily be "Thrall's Summer Vacation" or my dream expansion of "Revitalising/Rebuilding Outland" which both have nothing to do with elementals but absolutely have a lot to do with Thrall

    Or, y'know. Warcraft 3 revamped (again) with a bonus campaign that brings some WoW stuff into it. I dunno. But it doesn't scream 'this is elemental'

    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Deathwing is in the background. Dragonflight would have been announced at that event.
    A character who doesn't appear in the expansion, is clearly overshadowed by Bolvar being up front

    Illidan's also there with a pack of Hearthstone cards but it didn't mean Dragonflight was "Illidan takes up poker" the expansion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    I'm talking about the encrypted snow elemental being used for that preview, unless there happen to be two encrypted elementals based on the snow elemental model (there aren't).
    Yes, and I'm talking about this "And more to be revealed" advert on BlizzCon 2023's page;



    Which is using an elemental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Yes, and I'm talking about this "And more to be revealed" advert on BlizzCon 2023's page;

    Which is using an elemental.
    Me too. That mount right there was added in 9.2, in encrypted form. I can go into why I believe it is the same mount if you want, but that gets rather technical.

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    Khaz'Algar is most likely one zone of the new continent so it won't all be dwarf centric but they may play a prominent role akin to the Nightborne presence being the capstone zone in Legion.

    Then there is Captain Nightsquall with his pirate fleet as another side enemy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Varx View Post
    But if they read the terrain like I do instead of going off of personal desires then they'd understand and wouldn't get their jimmies rustled. Again, I have no intention of maining a tinker, I just know with 100% certainty that they're wow's next playable class. It's so God damn obvious all things considered.

    If that triggers people then oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mecheon View Post
    He's also Thrall, the most impoortant orc, an important character. It could just as easily be "Thrall's Summer Vacation" or my dream expansion of "Revitalising/Rebuilding Outland" which both have nothing to do with elementals but absolutely have a lot to do with Thrall
    Given the precedence of every expansion since WoD that's highly doubtful.

    A character who doesn't appear in the expansion, is clearly overshadowed by Bolvar being up front

    Illidan's also there with a pack of Hearthstone cards but it didn't mean Dragonflight was "Illidan takes up poker" the expansion
    Neltharion = Deathwing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
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    That last one is 2021. And Gul'dan already was in HFC. He even was in the WoD intro quest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Me too. That mount right there was added in 9.2, in encrypted form. I can go into why I believe it is the same mount if you want, but that gets rather technical.
    Yeah, we're clearly talking about two very different things here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansworst View Post
    That last one is 2021. And Gul'dan already was in HFC
    Yes, Dragonflight would have been announced in 2021 if not for Covid. Also Gul'dan was a rather huge part of Legion's storyline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Yeah, we're clearly talking about two very different things here.
    No, we're talking about the same thing, that's what I've been trying to tell you. The mount in the BlizzCon image was added in 9.2 (Nov 2021), roughly the same time as the pre-order rewards for 10.0 and as such can not realistically be an indication of what 11.0 is going to be.

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    Teriz is even arguing with our chief datamining guy about datamined models and rewards.

    At this point it’s clear he’s just here to kill any meaningful discussion, why is he not banned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    No, we're talking about the same thing, that's what I've been trying to tell you. The mount in the BlizzCon image was added in 9.2 (Nov 2021), roughly the same time as the pre-order rewards for 10.0 and as such can not realistically be an indication of what 11.0 is going to be.
    So you're saying that there's no way that Blizzard could use an elemental mount in a "More to be revealed" advertisement to tease us that WoW's next expansion is elemental based?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Yeah, we're clearly talking about two very different things here.

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    Yes, Dragonflight would have been announced in 2021 if not for Covid. Also Gul'dan was a rather huge part of Legion's storyline.
    Quotation needed.

    And Gul'dan was also a big part of Tanaan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Throwaway10123 View Post
    This will be my only post.

    World Soul:
    -Avaloren is the "Bermuda Triangle" of Azeroth.
    -Each zone has a surface half and an underground half. Underground is not like Zaralek, there are many different biomes like Journey to the Center of the Earth.
    -Player housing ONLY in Avaloren. Different professions make different furniture and decorations via work order system.
    -Some classes get new support specs like Bard Rogue and Gladiator Warrior, which uses shouts and banners to "hype up the crowd (raid)."
    -Pre-order bonus unlocks all classes for dracthyr in future patch (10.2.7) except DK and DH. They start in Exile's Reach.
    -Undermine Dungeon with Gallywix is in the pre-expansion event.
    -Besides Algar dwarves there's a human kingdom with similar origins.
    -There's also a race of ant people called myrmid/myrmin (not sure of the spelling). There are good black ants we ally with and evil fire ants who are the first raid.

    That's all I know. Can't say how for obvious reasons.
    World of Warcraft 11.0: Extermination
    New class: Pest control guy

    Jokes aside, I wouldn't hate this if real, but it doesn't give this thread anything to speculate about since there is ziltch to indicate anything you've put forward here. Credit where it's due, this is the only fanfic leak I can think of that remembered Dracthyr getting other classes lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mecheon View Post
    He's also Thrall, the most impoortant orc, an important character. It could just as easily be "Thrall's Summer Vacation" or my dream expansion of "Revitalising/Rebuilding Outland" which both have nothing to do with elementals but absolutely have a lot to do with Thrall
    Orcs on a beach is such a hilariously alien concept that now I want it as an expansion, damnit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansworst View Post
    Quotation needed.

    And Gul'dan was also a big part of Tanaan.
    Quotation needed for what? That BlizzCon 2021 was cancelled because of COVID? That's common knowledge. That's why Dragonflight was announced AND released in 2022.

    And yes Gul'dan was a big part of WoD. That doesn't change the fact that he was also a key component of Legion, which is why he was on the key art prior to it's announcement at Gamescon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Quotation needed for what? That BlizzCon 2021 was cancelled because of COVID? That's common knowledge. That's why Dragonflight was announced AND released in 2022.
    So your saying that they would have Shadowlands being relevant for less then a year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansworst View Post
    So your saying that they would have Shadowlands being relevant for less then a year?
    That's the cycle of all expansions. Dragonflight was released in November 2022, and we're going to get a new expansion announcement less than a year after its release. The exact same thing would have happened to Shadowlands if not for COVID.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    BlizzConline 2022 key art;

    Deathwing is in the background. Dragonflight would have been announced at that event.

    So we have a rather straight line of this occurring since WoD.
    This is the key art for BlizzConline 2021, not 2022. Deathwing is representing HotS here; every Blizzard game has had one representative on the key art. HotS was still receiving new content just a few months before then, so it wasn't totally abandoned at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santandame View Post
    Teriz is even arguing with our chief datamining guy about datamined models and rewards.
    The hilarious thing is that I'm actually not. I'm simply arguing that that "More to be revealed" advert is likely a hint of literally what's to come since it lines up with other stuff.

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    So first, it was 2022, but when people say it was 2021, you backtrack and say, but but but Dragonflight would have been announced in 2021 without any official statement of Blizzard saying so. People are right, I shouldn't engage with you, you're not here to speculate, you're only here to troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murlocos View Post
    This is the key art for BlizzConline 2021, not 2022. Deathwing is representing HotS here; every Blizzard game has had one representative on the key art. HotS was still receiving new content just a few months before then, so it wasn't totally abandoned at that point.
    Yeah I double checked and you're correct. No Key art for late 2021 or 2022. So yeah COVID disrupted that one.

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