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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscipleofCazicThule View Post
    Wouldn't be leak season without the usual suspect making massive reaches and refusing to admit any concessions. Literally happens every expansion year.
    The heroic edition mount for the expansion being an elemental is a massive reach? Perhaps you weren’t paying attention, but further data mining in this thread has supported this conclusion as well.

    I’m sure you believe that Squally and Fyrn being names for elemental based pets is a massive reach as well, right?

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    So, I just finished the orcs heritage questline:

    which shows the entire gathered horde - all its clans (dragonmaw, blackrock, etc.) which deals with the past and outlines the future of the horde, its hopes related to its new generations and the newly elected leaders.

    Interestingly, it also shows Thrall:
    who no longer has to choose between a warrior and a shaman (what is past is past) and He realize that after all these events he have to start looking into the future, which is why he puts on the Orgrim Doomhammer armor (Blizzcon 2023 key art yea)
    And his children who have grown up a bit


    Taking this into account, I think world revamp is much closer than we think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myrrh View Post
    Give me back the 20 seconds it took to open and skim that. T_T

    Gonna take a pass on that one chief.
    On, no. Sexual-implied content...
    I forgot this game is now catering to 3 year olds...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    The heroic edition mount for the expansion being an elemental is a massive reach? Perhaps you weren’t paying attention, but further data mining in this thread has supported this conclusion as well.

    I’m sure you believe that Squally and Fyrn being names for elemental based pets is a massive reach as well, right?
    Squall is not just used for elementals a quick search on WoWhead proves this so yes I like you Teriz but you are reaching with your opinions;


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    Quote Originally Posted by vintage79 View Post
    So, I just finished the orcs heritage questline:

    which shows the entire gathered horde - all its clans (dragonmaw, blackrock, etc.) which deals with the past and outlines the future of the horde, its hopes related to its new generations and the newly elected leaders.

    Interestingly, it also shows Thrall:
    who no longer has to choose between a warrior and a shaman (what is past is past) and He realize that after all these events he have to start looking into the future, which is why he puts on the Orgrim Doomhammer armor (Blizzcon 2023 key art yea)
    And his children who have grown up a bit


    Taking this into account, I think world revamp is much closer than we think.
    I think what happened in orc heritage questline was big and i hope they won't just forget about it for next few years and still have all the clans be on outland until they maybe do the revamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fahrad Wagner View Post
    Let me introduce you to our diamond of the season...
    Nice Bridgerton reference.

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    Shocked everyone didn't ignore Teriz yet.
    "We've come to die for the Dragon Queen Rhaenyra."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiriastrasza View Post
    Squall is not just used for elementals a quick search on WoWhead proves this so yes I like you Teriz but you are reaching with your opinions;

    Thing is, if the expansion mount is an air elemental, there’s a high chance that Squally is also an elemental.

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    Squally sounds like the Nightsquall - a mini night elf pirate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeraldofSargeras View Post
    Shocked everyone didn't ignore Teriz yet.
    Seeing him come up with extremely specific theories and defend them vehemently is a constant mainstay of the thread.
    The earnestness in which he fully believes that Algarian Stormrider has to be an elemental because Stormrider was the name used for some filler elementals in Storm Leak is inspiring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by username993720 View Post
    Squally sounds like the Nightsquall - a mini night elf pirate.
    I certainly believe that far more than I believe the big promotional pet is going to be another elemental pet like what we have hundreds of already.
    The world revamp dream will never die!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImTheMizAwesome View Post
    I think the version of Thrall swinging his axe and using some elemental powers here and there is to me much more interesting than him becoming again this big world shaman like he was in cataclysm for example,.it's the version of thrall i liked the least.

    After orc heritage quesline Aggra is now new farseer and will probably be a character that will used in more shamanistic stuff, but it's just my pure speculation.


    Also i think that horde is missing an orc that has the intensity of garrosh but not evil, someone that will do some badass stuff while roaring during the battle and things like that, both thrall and eitrigg are pretty much chill, older orcs now.
    Wouldn't surprise me if he is a different type of Shaman and that's what opens up a 4th spec for Shamans. Unlikely but just an idea lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    Possible, yeah. I'm still not entirely convinced based on the relatively low resolution of the texture (512x256) compared to the other dragonriding mounts (which are all character models just like the 11.0 pre-order mount) which all use 1024x1024 textures or higher. This could also be for the other encrypted mount that has dynamic flying/dragonriding support, which could very well be a gryphon but without character customization options.



    The 11.0 pre-order mount has 12 customization options with 46 choices compared to e.g.
    Huh, when the heck was that discovered, how? Didn't know that until just now, weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scyth View Post
    Wouldn't surprise me if he is a different type of Shaman and that's what opens up a 4th spec for Shamans. Unlikely but just an idea lol
    Could be.
    Honestly i would welcome new specs for older classes, because im kinda bored with new classes that are only locked to 1 race or maybe 2..

    New specs would let players enjoy their most liked races with some new cool spec combos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Seeing him come up with extremely specific theories and defend them vehemently is a constant mainstay of the thread.
    The earnestness in which he fully believes that Algarian Stormrider has to be an elemental because Stormrider was the name used for some filler elementals in Storm Leak is inspiring.

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    I certainly believe that far more than I believe the big promotional pet is going to be another elemental pet like what we have hundreds of already.
    I wouldn’t say it’s inspiring because I don’t believe that he actually believes it. It’s gotten to the point now where he’s clearly here just to argue and attempt to lord that he’s right and everyone else is wrong. He doesn’t invite discussion or debate.

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    sam didier is currently only drawing orcs and dwarfs. xD but I guess this is very unrelated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Seeing him come up with extremely specific theories and defend them vehemently is a constant mainstay of the thread.
    The earnestness in which he fully believes that Algarian Stormrider has to be an elemental because Stormrider was the name used for some filler elementals in Storm Leak is inspiring.
    It's like watching Olympic gymnastics:

    Looks like quite a lot has occurred since earlier today. Seems like we have a titan-based mount as a reward for the heroic edition of the next expansion, and more evidence of an elements influencing the next expansion.
    Yeah, I think people are overblowing the Dwarf thematics here. An Algerian Stormrider might not be a standard gryphon. It could very likely be a titan construct of some type.
    What's the core theme of this mount?It's titan based and from an underground area. That's more than likely the thematics of the next expansion, and I for one think it could be quite exciting.

    Also the mount is for players. It's probably not a lore-based mount, it's probably just a cool looking rock gryphon or something.
    Just because the mount is based on Khaz Algar doesn't mean the expansion is based on Khaz Algar. The Dragonflight mount was based on the Emerald Dream and we're almost a year into Dragonflight and we still haven't gone to the Emerald Dream.
    Yeah, it's doubtful that the mount is based on the denizens of Khaz Algar or even directly tied to them lore wise. Just like we don't see Tangled Dreamweavers in patch 10.2.

    If precedence holds, Khaz Algar is going to be a zone we visit in the next expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pheraz View Post
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    sam didier is currently only drawing orcs and dwarfs. xD but I guess this is very unrelated?
    I'm surprised the guy is still active online.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakkresh View Post
    So, a friend of mine at Blizzard shared a feature that I’m super excited about, and I figure it’s close enough to Blizzcon to share, especially since this thread is over 1000 pages long! LoL

    The major new feature of the next expansion that they're excited about is “Class Alignments”. This gives your class the choice to “align” with different sources of power, doing two things: (1) changing the visuals of class spells and abilities, (2) granting a choice of usable world bonuses, none of which are available in raid or PvP (unlike Shadowlands' borrowed power systems).

    It is similar to the oft requested “class skins”. The re-branding as “alignments” emphasizes that it’s an intentional choice and fleshes out class fantasy purposefully. It is intended to be a permanent feature that they will build upon as we meet new ways of wielding the cosmic forces.

    The expansion will begin with quests to embrace an alignment given a handful of starter choices. It’s reminiscent of the Legion choice to pursue an artifact weapon. You can pursue multiple alignments, have a chosen alignment affixed to each of your specs, and switch alignments when you'd like.

    Paladins, for example, can pursue alignment with Holy Light, Astral Light, or Sun’s Light. Aligning with the Holy Light maintains Paladin spell effects as they are now. Astral Light renames spells with “Holy” in them to “Astral” and grants spell effects a silvery blue glow reminiscent of Elune’s light. Sun’s Light adds orange embers and flame effects into existing holy effects... might rename it Solar or Sun's, I forget. After you've made a choice, you can change it at the Sunwell, a Moonwell, or with a Nuuru (for cool RP scenes) or with class trainers in capital cities and major hubs.

    Some specs have been renamed to accomodate alignments. As priests can align with Holy, Astral, or Void, Shadow has been renamed “Inquisition” when Holy or Astral-aligned. Holy is renamed "Clericism" when Astral-aligned. Some of the spell effects aren't just recolored, but completely changed... for example Holy Fire becomes Starfall. You cannot align your Holy spec to the void. Some specs have limited choices as such.

    The Shadowlands spells (for example, Faeline Stomp) have been recolored to match existing class spells (chi green), so most shadowlands tie-ins are gone from the core classes. Monks can start by aligning with the different Celestials, coloring all chi spells green, light blue, red or yellow. Their new “Chi-line Stomp” is colored after those alignments.

    Demon Hunters have had their Shadowlands spells recolored as fel, but they have a choice to become zealots for the Light, for the Void, or for the Arcane. Void Elves and Nightborne, predictably, can now be Demonhunters. The quests to align your DH to Void and Arcane explain this new generation of DH's.

    Warlocks can align with Maldraxxus to give them the green & black anima colored spells and undead instead of demons. Although Shadowlands spells are gone and Shadowlands alignments for most classes aren’t coming until MUCH later, classes with an affinity for the Shadowlands do have some starter options with them.

    Hunters can align with the Unseen Path for regular spell effects, another power that gives Azerite effects (Mechagon maybe??), or the Loa to give them an array of spells that will supposedly foreshadow both Emerald Dream and Shadowlands involvement in the story. Moving forward, the Loa are intended to be shown as "polyvalent" entities with an emphasis on the idea of trinities being one, so yeah, cool tie-ins with ED and SL. As other classes get alignments with individual Loa entities (like, are we gonna get different kinds of Loa Paladin's, Blizz???), they'll continue to flesh out the SL/ED and Azeroth connection.

    I think future planned alignments include the Dragonflights (arcane + elemental magic), the Shadowlands (anima magic), and possibly the Keepers or the Titans themselves. They also plan to introduce a concept for nature magic called “orenda”, produced much like anima but expended to keep the Emerald Dream functioning just like anima keeps the Shadowlands functioning. Not sure if its role will be clear right away, just like anima was kind of a mystery back in MoP. I imagine this has implications for the World Tree well on down the line, or possibly the loa or nature alignments, but we will see what 10.2 and 11.0 offer in terms of fleshing out those ideas.
    He told you all that and you managed to transcript every information here that accurately?

    In what context he told you? He wrote this on discord and you copy-pasted? He told you vocally (and you're a really good at memorising)? He showed you pictures? Here made you came at Blizzard HQ?

    Answer or didnt happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pheraz View Post
    https://twitter.com/SamwiseDidier

    sam didier is currently only drawing orcs and dwarfs. xD but I guess this is very unrelated?
    Often i see that when drawing orcs, artists usually give them eyebrows but still in game, only thrall has them, hopefully next batch of customization will add optional eyebrows to orcs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vintage79 View Post
    We haven't had borrowed power since BFA more like shadowlands, so we are 'only' 1 exp pack in advance without borrowed power.

    is inevitable at this point no, we were fine without it for like 13+ years
    The only real borrowed power in shadowlands were soulbinds, which were pretty minor compared to artifacts and azerite armor

    And yes, it is inevitable when you consider they've started giving classes to every race since Dragonflight launched, seemingly for no reason other than player agency

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I think the entire Aggra storyline was problematic. Finding your origin should not mean abandoning your past. Aggra calling him Go'el and putting him in Mag'har shaman drag was a joke; he is Thrall because that is his history and trying to deny it is bullshit. He is a shaman wearing the Doomplate and fighting in both melee and with the elements. As Illidan succintly put it in proper emo terms, "I am my scars"

    He can be Thrall the gladiator and still be the World Shaman. It doesn't have to be one or the other.
    Considering Thrall is the splash screen for the Enhancement Shaman spec panel, not elemental - it seems likely he's basically a shaman/warrior at this point, no more green jesus world shaman (which personally I never minded much)

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